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Post by theglove on Aug 31, 2023 15:12:57 GMT
I emailed Radio Stoke after the Rotherham cup game with some criticism about the commentary so far this season, but I did try to be fair saying how Nige was a hard act to follow after so many years. I've just received this reply : Thanks for taking the time to give feedback on our Stoke City coverage. The views of our listeners are very important and help inform the decisions we make at the radio station. Sometimes a change can take a short while to bed in and that may well be the case here. I know that the new members of our experienced on-air team are very excited about bringing Stoke fans match-day coverage of their team and I hope we can win you over in time. Appreciate the note, Arran Arran Bee Executive Producer / Assistant Editor - BBC Radio Stoke I’ve had the same generic response in other words they’re not interested and want us to roll over to him They've got their ESG score to consider.
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Post by hoppo96 on Aug 31, 2023 15:29:43 GMT
the problem isn't necessarily who they've hired, it's the likely budget limiting who they could hire. So they would always go for an internal appointment, because there must be loads of them around the place.
I think speaks to a bigger problem of local media becoming less local more generally, We know the BBC are making numerous cuts. It reduces the amount of local presenters, journalists, commentators on the beat. Anybody who sees what the Sentinel posts online (Facebook) will see how much of the content has nothing to do with North Staffs as a place.
And in the case of our new guy, he could probably get away with not being local if he wasn't making mistakes or rambling on about random things. Not to mention, better co-commentators who don't sound like they're watching the game from a morgue.
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Post by questionable on Aug 31, 2023 15:33:32 GMT
At the end of the day he’s extremely bad at what he does, Honestly Tuesday was dire as I hadn’t got a clue what was going on, perhaps it’s s ploy to get us to attend matches???
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Post by hoppo96 on Aug 31, 2023 16:06:49 GMT
I know I questioned whether Nige was still up to it, but still I think problem here is the commentator (lovely guy I'm sure) is seemingly bounded around from department to department at the bbc. Whereas more talented people are at motd, 5live, already established at local radio, etc. He might not be a bad commentator, but he had to make an impression on us and he really hasn't* A big thing carrying Nige was being the Voice of Stoke City, something very difficult, no impossible to replicate. His voice just 'fitted'. I wonder why Sandoz wasn't given it, or Lee Blakemon. Get Mark Elliott back up from shropshire, he was good. *I hope for his sake he isn't reading these Sandoz picked him to do the job and Blakeman works for 5 live now,he was commenting on Salford v Leeds tonight as I got back in the car after our game.Elliott was treated badly in my opinion on not getting the chance to do the job yeah I imagine Sandoz probably didn't have a lot of choice. The budget was probably pretty small, I imagine Nige was doing it for 'Expenses'. Its a problem around local media more generally, look at the sentinel or signal 1.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 31, 2023 16:13:44 GMT
Sandoz picked him to do the job and Blakeman works for 5 live now,he was commenting on Salford v Leeds tonight as I got back in the car after our game.Elliott was treated badly in my opinion on not getting the chance to do the job yeah I imagine Sandoz probably didn't have a lot of choice. The budget was probably pretty small, I imagine Nige was doing it for 'Expenses'. Its a problem around local media more generally, look at the sentinel or signal 1. Trust me Sandoz had loads of choice including the bloke they cast aside that was doing the job,he was treated dreadfully
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Post by jaybee on Aug 31, 2023 16:56:46 GMT
radio.stoke@bbc.co.uk get your complaints in, we deserve better than this rubbish Done - tried to offer 'constructive criticism' I wrote:- Without wanting to be too negative, I really can't warm to your choice of commentator for our games. I fully understand that Nigel is a big act to follow, but ... I wasn't able to make the game on Tuesday night so popped the FM radio on the table and listened. Sadly, he needs to be more descriptive. When the goals went in, we need to know that it is a goal. It may have been a terrific strike by Campbell/Laurent etc but he needs to let us know that a goal has been scored, before describing the quality. I called to see a farmer friend of mine yesterday. He listens on his tractor on a Saturday afternoon. He was disappointed with the number of times he was told that it was thundering at Millwall on Saturday. "we need to know what's happening on the pitch" he said!
I'm just sitting here listening to BBC R Shropshire (sorry, but that is where I live!!) and enjoying Mark Elliott's calming voice. If only we could have him back!
Just wanted to put my thoughts down for your perusal.
CheersAnd their standard reply:- Thanks for taking the time to give feedback on our Stoke City coverage. The views of our listeners are very important and help inform the decisions we make at the radio station.
Sometimes a change can take a short while to bed in and that may well be the case here. I know that the new members of our experienced on-air team are very excited about bringing Stoke fans match-day coverage of their team and I hope we can win you over in time.
I take your comments on board,
Arran
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Post by LeagueCupBaby on Aug 31, 2023 17:00:35 GMT
I’ve always listened to Radio Stokes commentary and now wondering with their response it seems he’s here to stay, is there any alternative commentary to listen to. I know that signal 2 used to do it but don’t know if they do now, as well as knott FM.
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Post by kerravon on Aug 31, 2023 17:05:29 GMT
What do you think the chances are that the feedback received will be discussed with Sohail?
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Post by buzzer on Aug 31, 2023 17:50:16 GMT
I’ve had the same generic response in other words they’re not interested and want us to roll over to him They've got their ESG score to consider. As a long time listener to BBC Radio Stoke and an SCFC supporter since 1972 I can honestly say I have had enough of the patronising nonsense being sent to us under the guise of professional replies from the radio station. Nige is a tough act to follow, but we have had at least three other presenters who have seamlessly slotted in as locals without us noticing - Ivan Gaskell, John Acres and recently - Mark Elliot. Mark is an accomplished broadcaster and professional journalist who stepped into the role and must be very disappointed that he didn't continue. I cannot listen to the non-football drivel any longer. Our club is called Stoke City, not Stoke and the radio station is BBC Radio Stoke, not BBC Stoke - such basic errors show a lack of homework. Back to teletext for me, my affinity with the local radio station sport has gone. Bring back Mr Elliot.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 31, 2023 18:13:20 GMT
What do you think the chances are that the feedback received will be discussed with Sohail? I would imagine he has already read the comments on here himself.
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Post by LeagueCupBaby on Aug 31, 2023 20:17:36 GMT
They've got their ESG score to consider. As a long time listener to BBC Radio Stoke and an SCFC supporter since 1972 I can honestly say I have had enough of the patronising nonsense being sent to us under the guise of professional replies from the radio station. Nige is a tough act to follow, but we have had at least three other presenters who have seamlessly slotted in as locals without us noticing - Ivan Gaskell, John Acres and recently - Mark Elliot. Mark is an accomplished broadcaster and professional journalist who stepped into the role and must be very disappointed that he didn't continue. I cannot listen to the non-football drivel any longer. Our club is called Stoke City, not Stoke and the radio station is BBC Radio Stoke, not BBC Stoke - such basic errors show a lack of homework. Back to teletext for me, my affinity with the local radio station sport has gone. Bring back Mr Elliot. Bang on ✅
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Post by robscfc on Aug 31, 2023 20:26:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2023 20:29:40 GMT
As the old saying goes, you don't know what you've got until it's gone.
I bet those who used to moan and take the piss out of Nige would have him back in a heartbeat.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 31, 2023 20:34:14 GMT
Every week, after every game we had folk moaning about Nige (especially when we lost) so this is just a continuation of the same tradition of moaning.
The difference seemingly Nige was 'too Stokie' and this one is 'not Stokie enough'
I listened to his commentary and I don't see the problem. He's pretty average, like most football commentators, just a bit over enthusiastic if anything.
Maybe he doesn't sound like a football guy to some, not sure!
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Post by pottersson on Aug 31, 2023 20:41:56 GMT
It’s shocking commentary tbh.
Pity some of us can’t just create our own commentary for the radio on a different station. I dare say it would be better to listen to actual stoke fans
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Post by onepara on Aug 31, 2023 20:56:44 GMT
I've had the reply to my second post to them on this subject. It's like water off a ducks back. they just aren't bothered & just hope that we will go away.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 31, 2023 21:29:52 GMT
I've had the reply to my second post to them on this subject. It's like water off a ducks back. they just aren't bothered & just hope that we will go away. Not surprised. It would be an admittance of failure on Sandoz part. Mark Elliott should have got the gig but the BBC don't employ people who are the best candidate as we've seen in the past. The BBC / Sandoz aren't accountable to anyone so it'll just stay crap.
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Post by potters11 on Aug 31, 2023 21:42:56 GMT
As the old saying goes, you don't know what you've got until it's gone. I bet those who used to moan and take the piss out of Nige would have him back in a heartbeat. I loved Nigel Johnson association with the club but it was time for him to hang up the microphone and I wouldn’t want him back. Mark Elliott on the other hand was a ready made internal appointment there doing the job (very well!) Very odd decision by an ever increasing odd corporation.
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Post by stokeykez on Aug 31, 2023 22:33:35 GMT
His commentary is awful, I don't give a shit about what's going on with the weather I want to have the game in words. Get very pissed off that in todays age still have to tune in on bloody FM radio. Can't get coverage on phone or on TV via bbc sounds or freeview radio channels. Really hope this changes soon as currently have to drive round in the car to listen to coverage
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Post by potters11 on Aug 31, 2023 22:54:54 GMT
His commentary is awful, I don't give a shit about what's going on with the weather I want to have the game in words. Get very pissed off that in todays age still have to tune in on bloody FM radio. Can't get coverage on phone or on TV via bbc sounds or freeview radio channels. Really hope this changes soon as currently have to drive round in the car to listen to coverage Haven’t you considered buying a cheap FM/DAB radio!? It’ll pay for itself within a few games with the amount of petrol/diesel you are using to listen to the matches!
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Post by dirtclod on Sept 1, 2023 0:18:05 GMT
Only downer for me this window is that I won't get to hear Nige tackle some of these pronunciations!
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Post by potterrotter on Sept 1, 2023 4:09:12 GMT
As the old saying goes, you don't know what you've got until it's gone. I bet those who used to moan and take the piss out of Nige would have him back in a heartbeat. I'm with you, get nige back in. Could you imagine the fun we'd have this season with the signings we've made 🤣🤣
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Post by Amo on Sept 1, 2023 7:43:36 GMT
I emailed Radio Stoke after the Rotherham cup game with some criticism about the commentary so far this season, but I did try to be fair saying how Nige was a hard act to follow after so many years. I've just received this reply : Thanks for taking the time to give feedback on our Stoke City coverage. The views of our listeners are very important and help inform the decisions we make at the radio station. Sometimes a change can take a short while to bed in and that may well be the case here. I know that the new members of our experienced on-air team are very excited about bringing Stoke fans match-day coverage of their team and I hope we can win you over in time. Appreciate the note, Arran Arran Bee Executive Producer / Assistant Editor - BBC Radio Stoke Funnily enough I had exactly the same reply! They not got a clue at BBC Radio Stoke 🤫🤫🤫
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 1, 2023 7:45:35 GMT
I'm not familiar with the names but I never thought those who stepped in for Nige in recent seasons were that good, they seemed really dull to me. Not sure if these are the same as now being hailed as Commentating Gods by some on here.
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Post by stokief on Sept 1, 2023 9:26:33 GMT
Mark , the guy from Shrewsbury I found easy to listen to and thought that he was going to be the Nige replacement. I found his style engaging and thought his commentary style was just what we needed. How very Radio Stoke to get this so wrong in a season where it's all change at the Club. I must admit I wish we could hear Nige dealing with all of the new 'uns. Is Liam Lawrence still associated with the Club? I'm guessing that if so it's why we don't hear him co-commentating. Thought he was great, especially when he kind of forgot he was on the Radio and gave away a few of the old inside stories! Anyways, looks like we're (for those of us who try to continue listening to this drivel) stuck with the new bloke although we shouldn't be. I pay to listen through the Official site and I'm not sure whether it's worth it now. Can't believe that they had a perfectly good replacement in my eyes and foisted this amateurish lot on to us at such a potential turning point in the history of Stoke City. Am I being over-dramatic? maybe but it's ruining my matchday experience.
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Post by JudgeMental on Sept 1, 2023 11:42:11 GMT
I’ve always listened to Radio Stokes commentary and now wondering with their response it seems he’s here to stay, is there any alternative commentary to listen to. I know that signal 2 used to do it but don’t know if they do now, as well as knott FM. Signal 2 was wound down after a takeover of various stations by Bauer Media. I think Jonty (who does the matchday stuff at Stoke now, used to anchor the show). Not sure if Knot FM still do anything.
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Post by JudgeMental on Sept 1, 2023 11:48:55 GMT
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Post by questionable on Sept 1, 2023 11:53:45 GMT
If they had him commentating on vastly smaller clubs such as Vale or Crewe it’d make sense but a club the size of ours why would they do it, it doesn’t make any sense at all.
I keep saying it but the guy is absolutely awful, embarrassing in fact.
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 1, 2023 12:10:48 GMT
Getting rid of Den was a crime in my eyes. Used to love his show and met him many times when he was outside The Brit doing interviews with fans. Always good for a laugh and a proper Stoke lad. I wish him well. OS.
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Post by buzzer on Sept 1, 2023 19:15:14 GMT
If they had him commentating on vastly smaller clubs such as Vale or Crewe it’d make sense but a club the size of ours why would they do it, it doesn’t make any sense at all. I keep saying it but the guy is absolutely awful, embarrassing in fact. Mark Elliott is commentating on the Crewe game tomorrow. Getting closer….
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