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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2023 23:45:21 GMT
Very human man and footballer . Sometimes at work people( absolute nobodies tbh ) can be aloof , insular , trying to put people down , think they are superior ...all very negative . Woutar seems the opposite , with a real desire for human interaction , understanding people , having a laugh , asking about peoples lives , sharing moments with people at home , with family , at work , all day long. Very likeable chap.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 18, 2023 23:48:05 GMT
Thought he was the most engaged of our midfielders tbh. Barely realised Pearson was playing before Burger went off. Pearson the problem for me in our midfield. Jesus McStupid.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 18, 2023 23:52:21 GMT
Pearson the problem for me in our midfield. Jesus McStupid. The irony
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 19, 2023 7:39:26 GMT
Very human man and footballer . Sometimes at work people( absolute nobodies tbh ) can be aloof , insular , trying to put people down , think they are superior ...all very negative . Woutar seems the opposite , with a real desire for human interaction , understanding people , having a laugh , asking about peoples lives , sharing moments with people at home , with family , at work , all day long. Very likeable chap. Supported by a nice lady will help too. It’s the normality of there lives I like. When you look at some of the excess you see in some footballers it’s refreshing to see and I’m sure they’re not the only ones. Our current crop particularly the newbies seem a really good bunch who get on. Interesting he gave a shout out to Dwight Gayle re his efforts in training.
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 19, 2023 8:51:08 GMT
Only watched the training ground bit but I hope it's giving a true view. He looks like a positive influence and just the sort of lad we want. If he keeps settling I think he could be quality too.
My worry is we don't seem to have a leader and battler who's got respect and can deliver a kick up the arse?
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 19, 2023 8:53:58 GMT
Thought he was the most engaged of our midfielders tbh. Barely realised Pearson was playing before Burger went off. Pearson the problem for me in our midfield. Our best midfielder is the problem!? Sure.
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Nov 19, 2023 9:07:16 GMT
What did shine through was the respect he had for Gayle. Seems a top pro who is setting the standard. This gets missed by some and it is important....like when people moaned at Whelan....until he left. I'm not saying Gayle gets a pass because he trains well but as Jese behaviour was cancerous, good behaviour does the opposite.
And yes, he 100% should score goals for us. Its what he is paid to do.
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 19, 2023 11:40:10 GMT
Some really good media stuff being produced this season by the club. Credit where credit is due.
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Post by chell_rosey on Nov 19, 2023 12:16:03 GMT
Pearson the problem for me in our midfield. Our best midfielder is the problem!? Sure. Jesus isn't bald.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 19, 2023 12:43:54 GMT
Our best midfielder is the problem!? Sure. Jesus isn't bald. Who really knows?
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Post by chell_rosey on Nov 19, 2023 13:12:15 GMT
Who really knows? His vest is holey tho.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 19, 2023 15:31:05 GMT
Pearson the problem for me in our midfield. Our best midfielder is the problem!? Sure. Best midfielder..behave We get overun in midfield way too often by average sides and no creativity . One major reason we are a bottom half side Our midfield is nowhere near good enough
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Post by idle on Nov 19, 2023 16:39:04 GMT
Our best midfielder is the problem!? Sure. Best midfielder..behave We get overun in midfield way too often by average sides and no creativity . One major reason we are a bottom half side Our midfield is nowhere near good enough I disagree. After we started playing Pearson and Burger, and McNally and Rose got to form a partnership, we've pretty much shut the shop. Our problem isn't defensively, it's the lack of creativity and one-sided attack patterns. A team shouldn't be resigned to a loss once we concede, we should be able to score 2 or 3 every game. The poorer teams (Coventry) just bypass the midfield with long balls. The creativity is ANs fault for starting Johnson instead of Bae or Haks.
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 20, 2023 13:04:19 GMT
Best midfielder..behave We get overun in midfield way too often by average sides and no creativity . One major reason we are a bottom half side Our midfield is nowhere near good enough I disagree. After we started playing Pearson and Burger, and McNally and Rose got to form a partnership, we've pretty much shut the shop. Our problem isn't defensively, it's the lack of creativity and one-sided attack patterns. A team shouldn't be resigned to a loss once we concede, we should be able to score 2 or 3 every game. The poorer teams (Coventry) just bypass the midfield with long balls. The creativity is ANs fault for starting Johnson instead of Bae or Haks. Agreed, I think Pearson-Burger looks like it could be a top partnership. Creativity ahead and training a few more movements in possession would go miles IMO. Although I get the criticism, it's a partnership in development and I definitely remember Burger having bad halves, I just think the partnership looks like it could grow nicely.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 20, 2023 13:51:50 GMT
I disagree. After we started playing Pearson and Burger, and McNally and Rose got to form a partnership, we've pretty much shut the shop. Our problem isn't defensively, it's the lack of creativity and one-sided attack patterns. A team shouldn't be resigned to a loss once we concede, we should be able to score 2 or 3 every game. The poorer teams (Coventry) just bypass the midfield with long balls. The creativity is ANs fault for starting Johnson instead of Bae or Haks. Agreed, I think Pearson-Burger looks like it could be a top partnership. Creativity ahead and training a few more movements in possession would go miles IMO. Although I get the criticism, it's a partnership in development and I definitely remember Burger having bad halves, I just think the partnership looks like it could grow nicely. A lot of Alex Neil's tenure is based in what hasn't happened so far ...in fact most of it, let's be honest. . as we saw v Cardiff and Coventry we have absolutely nothing to worry what aren't great sides I think like last season he'll run on a short spurt of form to disguise the majority of a season
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 20, 2023 19:14:13 GMT
Agreed, I think Pearson-Burger looks like it could be a top partnership. Creativity ahead and training a few more movements in possession would go miles IMO. Although I get the criticism, it's a partnership in development and I definitely remember Burger having bad halves, I just think the partnership looks like it could grow nicely. A lot of Alex Neil's tenure is based in what hasn't happened so far ...in fact most of it, let's be honest. . as we saw v Cardiff and Coventry we have absolutely nothing to worry what aren't great sides I think like last season he'll run on a short spurt of form to disguise the majority of a season Isn't the main problem more the lack of creativity ahead of Burger though?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 20, 2023 19:17:29 GMT
A lot of Alex Neil's tenure is based in what hasn't happened so far ...in fact most of it, let's be honest. . as we saw v Cardiff and Coventry we have absolutely nothing to worry what aren't great sides I think like last season he'll run on a short spurt of form to disguise the majority of a season Isn't the main problem more the lack of creativity ahead of Burger though? It is. Burger can be a bit too languid in his passing (classic dutchy) but he’s definitely got plenty of potential to be a top player, I like him so far. As for Pearson, I get that he’s a bit marmite and when he makes errors it’s glaringly obvious although I think the good outweighs the bad
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Post by lordb on Nov 20, 2023 20:41:09 GMT
A lot of Alex Neil's tenure is based in what hasn't happened so far ...in fact most of it, let's be honest. . as we saw v Cardiff and Coventry we have absolutely nothing to worry what aren't great sides I think like last season he'll run on a short spurt of form to disguise the majority of a season Isn't the main problem more the lack of creativity ahead of Burger though? Yes Johnson on his good days offers good energy, always available for a pass but he isn't going to to make or score many Junho or Haksabanovic or if he doesn't leave Baker should be there ahead of Pearson and Burger
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Post by Roy Cropper on Nov 21, 2023 12:25:21 GMT
We've conceded 1 goal in 450 minutes of football. Pearson clearly isn't the problem.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 21, 2023 13:31:52 GMT
We've conceded 1 goal in 450 minutes of football. Pearson clearly isn't the problem. Pearson was excellent in the last few games, bit of a slow start to the season IMHO. Burger will get better and better and I would expect Bae to feature much more (and be more effective) as the season progresses.
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Post by march4 on Nov 21, 2023 13:52:31 GMT
We've conceded 1 goal in 450 minutes of football. Pearson clearly isn't the problem. Pearson was excellent in the last few games, bit of a slow start to the season IMHO. Burger will get better and better and I would expect Bae to feature much more (and be more effective) as the season progresses. This exactly. It will take time for both Burger and Bae to settle. The culture shock of English football and living in the UK is easy to underestimate.
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Post by kerouac on Nov 21, 2023 13:58:29 GMT
Very human man and footballer . Sometimes at work people( absolute nobodies tbh ) can be aloof , insular , trying to put people down , think they are superior ...all very negative . Woutar seems the opposite , with a real desire for human interaction , understanding people , having a laugh , asking about peoples lives , sharing moments with people at home , with family , at work , all day long. Very likeable chap. He seems like a born leader to me….
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 21, 2023 14:26:52 GMT
A lot of Alex Neil's tenure is based in what hasn't happened so far ...in fact most of it, let's be honest. . as we saw v Cardiff and Coventry we have absolutely nothing to worry what aren't great sides I think like last season he'll run on a short spurt of form to disguise the majority of a season Isn't the main problem more the lack of creativity ahead of Burger though? Midfield in general Some moan re Gayle)/Wesley etc but when you have absolutely nothing in the final third then is irrelevant who plays up top at times as more staved than Bobby Sands at times
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Post by idle on Nov 23, 2023 8:25:19 GMT
Isn't the main problem more the lack of creativity ahead of Burger though? Midfield in general Some moan re Gayle)/Wesley etc but when you have absolutely nothing in the final third then is irrelevant who plays up top at times as more staved than Bobby Sands at times Most of our attacks bypass the midfield anyway going directly to the front three, or comes from recycling possession when the mid three win the ball back high up the pitch. This is ANs style of play, and has little to do with the abilities of the midfield. Our movement patterns when in possession is crap, especially the front three or four including Johnson. This makes it difficult for the Pearburger to reach them with short forward passes.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 23, 2023 10:05:16 GMT
Pearson clearly needed time to get fit and, like anybody, a system that suits them. Him and Burger will be the two in there, meaning we need to get the top four players performing and creating, with plenty of help from the full backs. Now we appear to have a bit of foundation to build on, it's time to field a front four that can hurt teams. Bae, Vidigal, Haksabanovic and Mmaee will hopefully be key in the coming months. I like Leris but don't think he's going to create or score bucketloads.
Wouter seems a nice bloke, as do most of them in fairness.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 23, 2023 11:44:56 GMT
Burger has "class" and will get better and better as he gets used to British football.
Pearson is a terrior, and just what we have been missing for a long time. I have already lost count this season how many critical tackles he has made and last gasp clearances in the penalty area while those around him stood gaping. He and the GKs have won us a lot of points this season by avoiding defeats.
When Burger "clicks" with the players in front of him we will be candidates for a play-off place.
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Post by choppercherry on Feb 10, 2024 15:19:51 GMT
I bet he's thinking "what the f**k have signed up for here. If he's still in Stoke shirt next season it will be a miracle.
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Post by DansViews on Feb 10, 2024 15:30:15 GMT
Too good for this club. I hope he leaves in the summer where he deserves a shot at being in a real team.
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Post by glpotter on Feb 10, 2024 15:31:15 GMT
LEAVE NOW SAVE YOURSELF
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Post by Rick Grimes on Feb 10, 2024 15:33:18 GMT
I bet he's thinking "what the f**k have signed up for here. If he's still in Stoke shirt next season it will be a miracle. There’s not a chance he stays with us in League One.
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