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Post by baconburger on Sept 7, 2023 18:42:38 GMT
You're talking shit. Good first half, faded second half against an industrious, well-drilled outfit. Some people's expectations are horrendous. It's nice to have someone who will actually attempt passes other than sideways and backwards but in typical Stoke fashion, he'll be berated if they don't all come off. Want us to be more creative and unlock teams but want every pass to be played safe. People, as usual, going way over the top about the performance. It wasn't great but it wasn't as bad as some want to portray. Preston were no better than Stoke. AN was correct a very even game came down to two moments. We have to be better in the final third.
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Post by questionable on Sept 7, 2023 18:53:26 GMT
When he took Pearson off, Burger had to drop back and do more defending. It’s hard to carry Laurent on your back for 90mins too. How Laurent wasn’t hooked is a complete mystery… How Laurent starts and our captain is a bigger mystery
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Post by baconburger on Sept 7, 2023 18:59:45 GMT
How Laurent wasn’t hooked is a complete mystery… How Laurent starts and our captain is a bigger mystery I think it’s pretty simple Laurent’s best is better than anything else we’ve got. Does he produce it anywhere near often enough, of course not. What’s the answer, no idea.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 8, 2023 7:36:57 GMT
You're talking shit. Good first half, faded second half against an industrious, well-drilled outfit. Some people's expectations are horrendous. It's nice to have someone who will actually attempt passes other than sideways and backwards but in typical Stoke fashion, he'll be berated if they don't all come off. Want us to be more creative and unlock teams but want every pass to be played safe. People, as usual, going way over the top about the performance. It wasn't great but it wasn't as bad as some want to portray. Preston were no better than Stoke. AN was correct a very even game came down to two moments. We have to be better in the final third. An even game? We had 70% possession. All will come good now we a bit of quality to hopefully put some games to bed.
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Post by thestatusquo on Sept 8, 2023 7:37:30 GMT
Passable first half but faded badly in the second after they clamped down on him
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Post by nott1 on Sept 8, 2023 8:00:16 GMT
Passable first half but faded badly in the second after they clamped down on him I did notice his right leg is just to stand on!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2023 8:18:23 GMT
Has the kangaroo court found him to be shit yet?
Vidigal the second coming until he doesn't score for a couple of games then he'll be shit.
Mmaee and Leris already guilty of being shit.
Bae not enough info yet but soon to be found guilty of being shit no doubt.
Hoever, Laurent, Campbell,Pearson, McNally, Rose, Stevens, Wilmot, DJ, Wes all shit.
Have I missed any?
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Post by baconburger on Sept 8, 2023 8:28:31 GMT
Preston were no better than Stoke. AN was correct a very even game came down to two moments. We have to be better in the final third. An even game? We had 70% possession. All will come good now we a bit of quality to hopefully put some games to bed. We had 70% possession but didn’t create much from it at all. Don’t know what the xg figures look like but I’d guess they’d be pretty even. There wasn’t that much action in either box.
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Post by potterpanzera on Sept 8, 2023 8:31:05 GMT
Has the kangaroo court found him to be shit yet? Vidigal the second coming until he doesn't score for a couple of games then he'll be shit. Mmaee and Leris already guilty of being shit. Bae not enough info yet but soon to be found guilty of being shit no doubt. Hoever, Laurent, Campbell,Pearson, McNally, Rose, Stevens, Wilmot, DJ, Wes all shit. Have I missed any? Travesty Travers
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Post by baconburger on Sept 8, 2023 8:37:52 GMT
Has the kangaroo court found him to be shit yet? Vidigal the second coming until he doesn't score for a couple of games then he'll be shit. Mmaee and Leris already guilty of being shit. Bae not enough info yet but soon to be found guilty of being shit no doubt. Hoever, Laurent, Campbell,Pearson, McNally, Rose, Stevens, Wilmot, DJ, Wes all shit. Have I missed any? Travers, Gooch, Thompson, Jogic, Junior. They’re all likely to be shit at some stage.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 12, 2023 16:34:51 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 12, 2023 16:46:23 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 12, 2023 16:47:19 GMT
I'm relishing his next performance
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 12, 2023 17:28:19 GMT
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Post by trincostokie on Sept 12, 2023 18:04:24 GMT
Great listen...cheers FM Seems like a really bright lad who knows exactly what he wants...very pleased he thinks Stoke can give him that platform.
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 12, 2023 20:32:10 GMT
Has the kangaroo court found him to be shit yet? Vidigal the second coming until he doesn't score for a couple of games then he'll be shit. Mmaee and Leris already guilty of being shit. Bae not enough info yet but soon to be found guilty of being shit no doubt. Hoever, Laurent, Campbell,Pearson, McNally, Rose, Stevens, Wilmot, DJ, Wes all shit. Have I missed any? Travers, Gooch, Thompson, Jogic, Junior. They’re all likely to be shit at some stage. Johnson? Seems to be surviving the potential abuse so far.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 12, 2023 20:49:21 GMT
Travers, Gooch, Thompson, Jogic, Junior. They’re all likely to be shit at some stage. Johnson? Seems to be surviving the potential abuse so far. He’s so shit he can’t get into first eleven , even with two offensive players injured one fucked off back to wolves and Juno straight of the plane from Korea impossible to tell how bad he actually is 😉
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Post by chiswickpotter on Sept 12, 2023 22:17:59 GMT
Johnson? Seems to be surviving the potential abuse so far. He’s so shit he can’t get into first eleven , even with two offensive players injured one fucked off back to wolves and Juno straight of the plane from Korea impossible to tell how bad he actually is 😉 He’s a midfielder and most of that group are fit. He is exactly what we would hope from a free transfer, in and around the first team battling for a spot. What’s your issue? We have signed 18 players and have played 5 games. Although in your head, every game is epoch defining, in the real world it is a process not an event and time will tell
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 13, 2023 6:54:40 GMT
He’s so shit he can’t get into first eleven , even with two offensive players injured one fucked off back to wolves and Juno straight of the plane from Korea impossible to tell how bad he actually is 😉 He’s a midfielder and most of that group are fit. He is exactly what we would hope from a free transfer, in and around the first team battling for a spot. What’s your issue? We have signed 18 players and have played 5 games. Although in your head, every game is epoch defining, in the real world it is a process not an event and time will tell Whooooooooooosh
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2023 8:35:18 GMT
Preston were no better than Stoke. AN was correct a very even game came down to two moments. We have to be better in the final third. An even game? We had 70% possession. All will come good now we a bit of quality to hopefully put some games to bed. We are not meant to have 70 per cent possession...we are meant to play our own game and create enough clear cut chances to get the job done. Preston absolutely took the piss out of us , by encouraging us to have loads of meaningless possession in front of them, without getting behind them and hurting them. They made us look like Muppets. If we had 80 Percent possession, they would have pissed themselves laughing even more. Every stoke fan is happy with 50 percent possession, 30 per cent possession even They just want to see us move the ball quickly, take risks in the final third and create clear cut chances from fast moving positive football. I am a Stoke fan and I hate watching the likes of Preston take the piss out of us , by roping us into 70 per cent possession and playing the game they want to see . Not the one we want to see.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 13, 2023 11:11:13 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 16, 2023 22:05:03 GMT
First time I've really seen him today, and I was very disappointed.
Laurent has been criticized heavily this season but he looked miles better than burger.
If I was AN I would be sitting burger down this week and reminding him that 4 million quid has been spent on him, and we require a lot more effort and courage during a game.
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Post by collo68 on Sept 16, 2023 22:21:18 GMT
First time I've really seen him today, and I was very disappointed. Laurent has been criticized heavily this season but he looked miles better than burger. If I was AN I would be sitting burger down this week and reminding him that 4 million quid has been spent on him, and we require a lot more effort and courage during a game. Which planet are you on
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Sept 16, 2023 22:24:01 GMT
He wants the ball all the time, may take him a while to settle in but can see him being the best of our new signings.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 16, 2023 22:30:32 GMT
First time I've really seen him today, and I was very disappointed. Laurent has been criticized heavily this season but he looked miles better than burger. If I was AN I would be sitting burger down this week and reminding him that 4 million quid has been spent on him, and we require a lot more effort and courage during a game. Which planet are you on I'm not saying he won't be a good player, but today was awful. He looked out of his depth
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Post by LGH87 on Sept 16, 2023 23:11:42 GMT
I May be wrong but for the first hour today he was the furthest forward of our midfield 3 and it didn’t suit him.
The soon AN realises it has to be 2/3 do burger Pearson & Laurent the better
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Post by sensiblestokie on Sept 17, 2023 0:08:23 GMT
First time I've really seen him today, and I was very disappointed. Laurent has been criticized heavily this season but he looked miles better than burger. If I was AN I would be sitting burger down this week and reminding him that 4 million quid has been spent on him, and we require a lot more effort and courage during a game. I’ve seen him have better games but I can’t agree or understand how you come up with him being poor. He’s by far our best midfielder.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 17, 2023 0:56:57 GMT
I don't want to jump on the anti Neil bus but I'm looking at ticket prices. Wouter is a defensive midfielder, stand in center back? Mr Neil is tinkering and doesn't seem to know where to play his players. OK everything is new but play players in their positions, when possible. FFS!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 17, 2023 5:05:37 GMT
He’s one of the first players on the team sheet for me.
If he and Pearson or Laurent aren’t enough to do the DM role between them then there’s a problem.
I think one of the biggest problems is lack of creativity in the midfield 3. You have to play either Johnson or Bae as one of the 3 or yesterdays performance will be repeated.
I think he’s caused himself a problem by making Laurent captain.
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 17, 2023 6:46:58 GMT
First time I've really seen him today, and I was very disappointed. Laurent has been criticized heavily this season but he looked miles better than burger. If I was AN I would be sitting burger down this week and reminding him that 4 million quid has been spent on him, and we require a lot more effort and courage during a game. It’s true that Burger’s effectiveness is deteriorating game by game . By Christmas our coaching will probably have him at the same mediocre level as his colleagues. Right now I’d say he is the one real improvement to the playing staff we made over the summer.
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