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Wesley
Sept 29, 2023 20:42:05 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Sept 29, 2023 20:42:05 GMT
My mates a season ticket holder at Villa, he said do not expect Wesley to score with his head, cause he is uselss in the air, but he was quick and better with his feet. So not much new there then apart from the fact that he isn’t quick anymore. He is indeed better with his feet than his head but unfortunately that doesn’t extend to taking on shots. He’s a massive one trick pony.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 29, 2023 21:01:04 GMT
At least he's been available week in and week out.
He's been incredibly isolated and for me, done well without being amazing.
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Wesley
Sept 29, 2023 21:05:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2023 21:05:58 GMT
My mates a season ticket holder at Villa, he said do not expect Wesley to score with his head, cause he is uselss in the air, but he was quick and better with his feet. He has impressed me with the ball at his feet to be fair, seems tidy and links play nicely on the ground.
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Wesley
Sept 29, 2023 21:29:36 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 29, 2023 21:29:36 GMT
When he signed I was excited, by the name, his previous transfer fee.
Then I watched the YouTube video of all his involvements at levante, and knew immediately we would get nothing out of him this season.
I don't know what prep we put in on this but it's a complete joke
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Post by a on Sept 29, 2023 21:34:37 GMT
At least he's been available week in and week out. He's been incredibly isolated and for me, done well without being amazing. I honestly think in the right set up he could be a great asset. I know he had the big price tag at Villa but without his injury he wouldn’t be at Stoke. Let’s give him time and get players around him before we write him off. Nobody apart from Vidigal has rocked up and looked decent (ok maybe the Korean lad and initially Burger). Just give him time
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Post by lordb on Sept 29, 2023 21:47:51 GMT
At least he's been available week in and week out. He's been incredibly isolated and for me, done well without being amazing. I honestly think in the right set up he could be a great asset. I know he had the big price tag at Villa but without his injury he wouldn’t be at Stoke. Let’s give him time and get players around him before we write him off. Nobody apart from Vidigal has rocked up and looked decent (ok maybe the Korean lad and initially Burger). Just give him time It's why am not a fan of 4321 The wide players in the 3 end up helping the fullbacks out instead of getting near the central striker leaving 1 against two or even 3
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Wesley
Sept 30, 2023 9:34:57 GMT
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Post by stokiespark on Sept 30, 2023 9:34:57 GMT
When he signed I was excited, by the name, his previous transfer fee. Then I watched the YouTube video of all his involvements at levante, and knew immediately we would get nothing out of him this season. I don't know what prep we put in on this but it's a complete joke plucked from a hat like the rest of them
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 30, 2023 9:45:21 GMT
If he didn't stick the poor bugger up front on his own with no service it might help.
So much for the target man ,Neil moaned he didn't have last season.
Bobby Sands was fed more than poor old Wesley
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Wesley
Sept 30, 2023 9:49:14 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 30, 2023 9:49:14 GMT
If he didn't stick the poor bugger up front on his own with no service it might help. So much for the target man ,Neil moaned he didn't have last season. Bobby Sands was fed more than poor old Wesley Have you still got that subbuteo figure?🤔
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Wesley
Sept 30, 2023 9:50:29 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 30, 2023 9:50:29 GMT
If he didn't stick the poor bugger up front on his own with no service it might help. So much for the target man ,Neil moaned he didn't have last season. Bobby Sands was fed more than poor old Wesley Have you still got that subbuteo figure?🤔 I don't think they did a Bobby Sands Subbutteo figure. Would have been taking football hooliganism to a whole new level
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Wesley
Sept 30, 2023 9:53:29 GMT
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Post by meirman61 on Sept 30, 2023 9:53:29 GMT
For someone built like a brick outhouse he spends an awful lot of time on his arse..
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Wesley
Sept 30, 2023 9:55:51 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 30, 2023 9:55:51 GMT
For someone built like a brick outhouse he spends an awful lot of time on his arse.. So did Frank Bruno I thought he looked ok on Sunday, maybe because we actually managed some rare ball into the opposition final third
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 30, 2023 9:57:29 GMT
Hold up play is decent when he actually receives the ball to feet but he couldn’t score in a brothel. We need Junho and Vidigal starting and getting into the box supporting
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 30, 2023 10:03:33 GMT
Hold up play is decent when he actually receives the ball to feet but he couldn’t score in a brothel. We need Junho and Vidigal starting and getting into the box supporting Wesley was the only plus point at Ipswich Brazilian players are getting lazy though in name selection. What happened to Garrincha, Jairzinho, Socrates etc? Now we have Wesley, Fred, Martha No wonder no one is scared of them any more. They sound like the cast of a Northern soap opera
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Post by Gods on Sept 30, 2023 10:11:08 GMT
Hold up play is decent when he actually receives the ball to feet but he couldn’t score in a brothel. We need Junho and Vidigal starting and getting into the box supporting Wesley was the only plus point at Ipswich Brazilian players are getting lazy though in name selection. What happened to Garrincha, Jairzinho, Socrates etc? Now we have Wesley, Fred, Martha No wonder no one is scared of them any more. They sound like the cast of a Northern soap opera Rivelino was a great name too. Difficult to be rubbish with a name like that!
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 30, 2023 10:34:02 GMT
I honestly think in the right set up he could be a great asset. I know he had the big price tag at Villa but without his injury he wouldn’t be at Stoke. Let’s give him time and get players around him before we write him off. Nobody apart from Vidigal has rocked up and looked decent (ok maybe the Korean lad and initially Burger). Just give him time It's why am not a fan of 4321 The wide players in the 3 end up helping the fullbacks out instead of getting near the central striker leaving 1 against two or even 3 Yes I agree. My understanding was that Wesley would be the outlet in plan B when a team is either dominating or plan A (a more dynamic front three) isn't working. Unfortunately due to injuries he's become plan A by default. I actually think he's done ok and much of the criticism is around him not being the player he was never meant to be. If for the moment he is part of plan A I agree with you that he needs one or two strike partners around him to score the goals.
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Wesley
Sept 30, 2023 11:24:32 GMT
Post by shakermaker on Sept 30, 2023 11:24:32 GMT
Hold up play is decent when he actually receives the ball to feet but he couldn’t score in a brothel. We need Junho and Vidigal starting and getting into the box supporting Yep, just posted a team on the match thread. For me, 4-4-2 (two midfielders, two wingers - Vidigal and Bae - and Haks as a shadow striker-cum-playmaker in the pocket just behind Wes). The big man may not score, but get men around him and others can profit from his ability to hold up the ball and lay it off.
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Wesley
Sept 30, 2023 11:26:42 GMT
Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 30, 2023 11:26:42 GMT
If we don't pick a side to play to his strengths,he shouldn't play.
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Wesley
Sept 30, 2023 11:41:22 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 30, 2023 11:41:22 GMT
Hold up play is decent when he actually receives the ball to feet but he couldn’t score in a brothel. We need Junho and Vidigal starting and getting into the box supporting How can you judge, I can only remember him having two particularly good chances.
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Wesley
Sept 30, 2023 11:47:47 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 30, 2023 11:47:47 GMT
Hold up play is decent when he actually receives the ball to feet but he couldn’t score in a brothel. We need Junho and Vidigal starting and getting into the box supporting How can you judge, I can only remember him having two particularly good chances. Then you’ve got a crap memory😉 He’s had a few more half chances but has snatched at them, looks like he’s lacking confidence in front of goal. Maybe once he gets one, you never know
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 30, 2023 12:05:21 GMT
Given time I think he'll come good. He was one of the few players who didn't do too badly last match but he should have finished at least one of his chances. I suspect he's snatching at those chances because the team is lacking confidence in front of goal. He's not the only one. We could have won the game had others around him hit the target instead of blasting wide. Confidence is so important.
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Wesley
Sept 30, 2023 12:13:53 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 30, 2023 12:13:53 GMT
How can you judge, I can only remember him having two particularly good chances. Then you’ve got a crap memory😉 He’s had a few more half chances but has snatched at them, looks like he’s lacking confidence in front of goal. Maybe once he gets one, you never know I wasn't counting half chances tbh, just decent ones he should score, I don't think the service to him has been good enough. Saying that, Vidigal seems more a scorer than a creator (no bad thing) and we know Campbell is always going to go for himself over putting a ball in.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 30, 2023 16:01:26 GMT
Well he surprised me there. I'd written him off but he was superb
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 30, 2023 16:02:18 GMT
Well he surprised me there. I'd written him off but he was superb Made a huge difference getting it to his feet.
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Post by shakermaker on Oct 1, 2023 10:17:34 GMT
Nath is getting all the plaudits for the winner, but it should be remembered that Wesley had come into the game very well when his teammates started to get the ball into him, showing he is actually quite useful technically and made a nifty layoff too. Was much better in the air as well I thought.
I think Wes should still be starting but with more of an emphasis to recognise him as an important cog in the process of making chances. We're starting to realise Nathan's potential, but with Wes with us for likely this season only we should be using Wes as first choice, but giving Nath more and more minutes and a few starts thrown in, with a view to Nath becoming first choice next season if he continues his trajectory.
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Wesley
Oct 1, 2023 10:21:58 GMT
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Post by strettonstokie on Oct 1, 2023 10:21:58 GMT
Nath is getting all the plaudits for the winner, but it should be remembered that Wesley had come into the game very well when his teammates started to get the ball into him, showing he is actually quite useful technically and made a nifty layoff too. Was much better in the air as well I thought. I think Wes should still be starting but with more of an emphasis to recognise him as an important cog in the process of making chances. We're starting to realise Nathan's potential, but with Wes with us for likely this season only we should be using Wes as first choice, but giving Nath more and more minutes and a few starts thrown in, with a view to Nath becoming first choice next season if he continues his trajectory. I personally think Mmaee will be the regular starter once he's back from injury. He was very intelligent against Rotherham in the cup and the goal was superbly taken a proper finish something only Campbell would be capable of in our strikers. I know it's old fashioned but first and foremost a strikers job is to score and I'm afraid big Wes isn't doing that and looks a shadow of his former self, villa would never of brought him if he played like this before his injury that's not to say he can't do a job for us.
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Wesley
Oct 1, 2023 10:23:19 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Oct 1, 2023 10:23:19 GMT
Thouht Wes was a bit better yesterday without being great.
It looks pretty clear Mmaee was always supposed to be the main man, and it's been a real problem that we've had to use Wes as much as we have.
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Wesley
Oct 1, 2023 10:24:04 GMT
Post by nottsover60 on Oct 1, 2023 10:24:04 GMT
If we don't pick a side to play to his strengths,he shouldn't play. We don't have a lot of choice at the moment. I always got the impression that he was bought as an option from the bench with Mmaee, Campbell and Vidigal the preferred line up.
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Post by lordb on Oct 1, 2023 10:24:51 GMT
Nath is getting all the plaudits for the winner, but it should be remembered that Wesley had come into the game very well when his teammates started to get the ball into him, showing he is actually quite useful technically and made a nifty layoff too. Was much better in the air as well I thought. I think Wes should still be starting but with more of an emphasis to recognise him as an important cog in the process of making chances. We're starting to realise Nathan's potential, but with Wes with us for likely this season only we should be using Wes as first choice, but giving Nath more and more minutes and a few starts thrown in, with a view to Nath becoming first choice next season if he continues his trajectory. I personally think Mmaee will be the regular starter once he's back from injury. He was very intelligent against Rotherham in the cup and the goal was superbly taken a proper finish something only Campbell would be capable of in our strikers. I know it's old fashioned but first and foremost a strikers job is to score and I'm afraid big Wes isn't doing that and looks a shadow of his former self, villa would never of brought him if he played like this before his injury that's not to say he can't do a job for us. Wes was brought in as an option off the bench or for specific games, he was wasn't intended aa a regular starter Thought he played well Saturday thought he was good v PNE too but he isn't going to score many and has had games where he hasn't done well
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Wesley
Oct 1, 2023 10:26:02 GMT
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Post by strettonstokie on Oct 1, 2023 10:26:02 GMT
I personally think Mmaee will be the regular starter once he's back from injury. He was very intelligent against Rotherham in the cup and the goal was superbly taken a proper finish something only Campbell would be capable of in our strikers. I know it's old fashioned but first and foremost a strikers job is to score and I'm afraid big Wes isn't doing that and looks a shadow of his former self, villa would never of brought him if he played like this before his injury that's not to say he can't do a job for us. Wes was brought in as an option off the bench or for specific games, he was wasn't intended aa a regular starter Thought he played well Saturday thought he was good v PNE too but he isn't going to score many and has had games where he hasn't done well Yeah he's done ok in general but not set the world alight. He's not been the worst that's for sure and is desperate to get a goal
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