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Post by gingerninja on Aug 28, 2023 8:59:59 GMT
Would Cannon offer better value than Stewart in the long run?.. I think a large wedge of what's left will go on a striker, but I suspect as it has been all through this window, it may be one that comes out of the blue🤔
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Post by jeycov on Aug 28, 2023 9:04:15 GMT
Has the Campbell link to Everton been reignited? I’d prefer Campbell to stay as the new set up may help him fulfil his potential It seems that we haven’t finished buying/ selling / loaning in this window
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Post by baconburger on Aug 28, 2023 9:07:14 GMT
Would Cannon offer better value than Stewart in the long run?.. I think a large wedge of what's left will go on a striker, but I suspect as it has been all through this window, it may be one that comes out of the blue🤔 That would be a worry. I think they’ve already committed a fair wedge to solving our central striker problem and it doesn’t look like money well spent. How can you tell if a player can adapt to the combative nature of the league and the position if they’ve never played in anything like it. I’m absolutely flabbergasted we weren’t in for Keinan Davis.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 28, 2023 9:07:59 GMT
One thing that looks probable is that he’ll be playing at the Bet365 on Saturday for one of the teams
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Post by lordb on Aug 28, 2023 9:08:42 GMT
Comparison to Delap doesn't stand up Delap scored 3 goals and was a huge disappointment Cannon scored freely in ab average side Unlike Davies who continues to not Score everywhere he goes, we have Wes who will do the target man stuff £3m initial fee with lots of add ons, well worth it imho Not injured like Stewart in the English market probably as good as we could get
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Post by lordb on Aug 28, 2023 9:09:41 GMT
Would Cannon offer better value than Stewart in the long run?.. I think a large wedge of what's left will go on a striker, but I suspect as it has been all through this window, it may be one that comes out of the blue🤔 That would be a worry. I think they’ve already committed a fair wedge to solving our central striker problem and it doesn’t look like money well spent. How can you tell if a player can adapt to the combative nature of the league and the position if they’ve never played in anything like it. I’m absolutely flabbergasted we weren’t in for Keinan Davis. Doesn't Score goals I see Watford not interested in bringing him back even at £1m
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Post by baconburger on Aug 28, 2023 9:12:44 GMT
That would be a worry. I think they’ve already committed a fair wedge to solving our central striker problem and it doesn’t look like money well spent. How can you tell if a player can adapt to the combative nature of the league and the position if they’ve never played in anything like it. I’m absolutely flabbergasted we weren’t in for Keinan Davis. Doesn't Score goals I see Watford not interested in bringing him back even at £1m Scored a few for Villa when promoted, scored a few for Forest when promoted. Scored against us for Watford not sure what his goals per 90 looked like last season. Can’t believe that’s even an argument when we have people espousing a front 3 including Wesley and Leris who you’ve got it don’t score goals.
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Post by ferryside on Aug 28, 2023 9:13:22 GMT
Would Cannon offer better value than Stewart in the long run?.. I think a large wedge of what's left will go on a striker, but I suspect as it has been all through this window, it may be one that comes out of the blue🤔 That would be a worry. I think they’ve already committed a fair wedge to solving our central striker problem and it doesn’t look like money well spent. How can you tell if a player can adapt to the combative nature of the league and the position if they’ve never played in anything like it. I’m absolutely flabbergasted we weren’t in for Keinan Davis. Why he has a season high of 7 goals in the championship?
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Post by trotter1980 on Aug 28, 2023 9:17:58 GMT
Not sure what I’m hoping for now. I’d have gone for Keinan Davis all day long. Not sure about any of the others linked, can’t say I’ve noticed any of them. I know Stewart scored against us but he certainly didn’t stand out and that’s probably the only game I’ve seen him play. If I’ve seen Cannon I don’t recall it so hopefully I just haven’t. The bloke at Cadiz seems some way down their pecking order, why? This is not a position I have much confidence in us getting right. Problem with where we are is that we have to take gambles. Anybody with a proven record domestically fetches minimum 10 million, perfect example is Archer 18million and don't think he's scored a prem goal. We are looking to unearth the next gem and hopefully it comes off and then we either get promoted due to it or we sell him at a decent profit if he excels but we don't go up. Davis has played in this league for number of years now and never been that proven scorer, he is more of you hold up bullying striker I would prefer Cannon or I would be excited to give this Osmanjic a try
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Post by baconburger on Aug 28, 2023 9:18:11 GMT
That would be a worry. I think they’ve already committed a fair wedge to solving our central striker problem and it doesn’t look like money well spent. How can you tell if a player can adapt to the combative nature of the league and the position if they’ve never played in anything like it. I’m absolutely flabbergasted we weren’t in for Keinan Davis. Why he has a season high of 7 goals in the championship? Because he’s a far better bet as a targetman than Wesley. He’s far more mobile, better in the air, course and distance and will score as many probably more than him. That’s 2 goals less than Brown and far better at linking with other players and playing the central role generally.
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Post by lordb on Aug 28, 2023 9:20:03 GMT
Doesn't Score goals I see Watford not interested in bringing him back even at £1m Scored a few for Villa when promoted, scored a few for Forest when promoted. Scored against us for Watford not sure what his goals per 90 looked like last season. Can’t believe that’s even an argument when we have people espousing a front 3 including Wesley and Leris who you’ve got it don’t score goals. He scored 3 goals for Villa, 73 games Vast majority as sub to be faur 5 in 15 for Forest, which is OK but promoted sides normally see a higher returb 7 in 34 for Watford He's deffo a good target am, he's definitely not a goalscorer which is what this side needs If playing two up top aa a foil for a goalscorer he's your man In a 433 he'd lead the line sure but not enough goals Looks at the clubs in for him Cannon sticks the ball in the net
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Post by baconburger on Aug 28, 2023 9:20:20 GMT
Not sure what I’m hoping for now. I’d have gone for Keinan Davis all day long. Not sure about any of the others linked, can’t say I’ve noticed any of them. I know Stewart scored against us but he certainly didn’t stand out and that’s probably the only game I’ve seen him play. If I’ve seen Cannon I don’t recall it so hopefully I just haven’t. The bloke at Cadiz seems some way down their pecking order, why? This is not a position I have much confidence in us getting right. Problem with where we are is that we have to take gambles. Anybody with a proven record domestically fetches minimum 10 million, perfect example is Archer 18million and don't think he's scored a prem goal. We are looking to unearth the next gem and hopefully it comes off and then we either get promoted due to it or we sell him at a decent profit if he excels but we don't go up. Davis has played in this league for number of years now and never been that proven scorer, he is more of you hold up bullying striker I would prefer Cannon or I would be excited to give this Osmanjic a try I’ve no idea what either of those players game is all about. That hold up bullying striker is exactly what we’ve needed for an age .
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Post by lordb on Aug 28, 2023 9:20:56 GMT
Why he has a season high of 7 goals in the championship? Because he’s a far better bet as a targetman than Wesley. He’s far more mobile, better in the air, course and distance and will score as many probably more than him. That’s 2 goals less than Brown and far better at linking with other players and playing the central role generally. Davies high of 7 is 7 less than Brown high of 14
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Post by werrington on Aug 28, 2023 9:24:05 GMT
We can't afford another Delap mistake. We need a proven goalscorer at this level. A proven goal scorer doesn’t sign for a championship club
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Post by baconburger on Aug 28, 2023 9:24:16 GMT
Scored a few for Villa when promoted, scored a few for Forest when promoted. Scored against us for Watford not sure what his goals per 90 looked like last season. Can’t believe that’s even an argument when we have people espousing a front 3 including Wesley and Leris who you’ve got it don’t score goals. He scored 3 goals for Villa, 73 games Vast majority as sub to be faur 5 in 15 for Forest, which is OK but promoted sides normally see a higher returb 7 in 34 for Watford He's deffo a good target am, he's definitely not a goalscorer which is what this side needs If playing two up top aa a foil for a goalscorer he's your man In a 433 he'd lead the line sure but not enough goals Looks at the clubs in for him Cannon sticks the ball in the net Cannon has had 1 season at this level. Stewart half a season. Jacob Brown scored 14 one season who says the former 2 are any better. 7 would be plenty if we could get Vidigal and Campbell feeding off him. Anyway it’s not an option anymore, imo that’s a mistake.
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Post by lordb on Aug 28, 2023 9:25:16 GMT
He scored 3 goals for Villa, 73 games Vast majority as sub to be faur 5 in 15 for Forest, which is OK but promoted sides normally see a higher returb 7 in 34 for Watford He's deffo a good target am, he's definitely not a goalscorer which is what this side needs If playing two up top aa a foil for a goalscorer he's your man In a 433 he'd lead the line sure but not enough goals Looks at the clubs in for him Cannon sticks the ball in the net Cannon has had 1 season at this level. Stewart half a season. Jacob Brown scored 14 one season who says the former 2 are any better. 7 would be plenty if we could get Vidigal and Campbell feeding off him. Anyway it’s not an option anymore, imo that’s a mistake. I prefer strikers who score
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Post by baconburger on Aug 28, 2023 9:26:18 GMT
Cannon has had 1 season at this level. Stewart half a season. Jacob Brown scored 14 one season who says the former 2 are any better. 7 would be plenty if we could get Vidigal and Campbell feeding off him. Anyway it’s not an option anymore, imo that’s a mistake. I prefer strikers who score I prefer teams who score lots of goals I’m not fussed who scores them.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 28, 2023 9:36:49 GMT
From all the centre forwards mentioned my preference would be Cannon.
Proven goalscorer in this league, young and improving all the time, not injured.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 28, 2023 9:39:41 GMT
He'd likely turn out to be a damp squib if we signed him! Or a damp squid which is always one of my favourite ‘oatcakeisms’. Can see this going to the last minute I think we're keeping our powder dry
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Post by ferryside on Aug 28, 2023 9:42:43 GMT
Why he has a season high of 7 goals in the championship? Because he’s a far better bet as a targetman than Wesley. He’s far more mobile, better in the air, course and distance and will score as many probably more than him. That’s 2 goals less than Brown and far better at linking with other players and playing the central role generally. Eh? Wesley has scored far more in his career, has a transfer fee that shadows his value and played for decent clubs across Europe. They played in the same Villa team didn't they in the Prem? He outscored him significantly in a similar amount of games.
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 28, 2023 9:43:35 GMT
Cannon would be a positive step in the right direction for me, young, room to improve and as yet no career blighted by injury.
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Post by trotter1980 on Aug 28, 2023 9:49:09 GMT
Problem with where we are is that we have to take gambles. Anybody with a proven record domestically fetches minimum 10 million, perfect example is Archer 18million and don't think he's scored a prem goal. We are looking to unearth the next gem and hopefully it comes off and then we either get promoted due to it or we sell him at a decent profit if he excels but we don't go up. Davis has played in this league for number of years now and never been that proven scorer, he is more of you hold up bullying striker I would prefer Cannon or I would be excited to give this Osmanjic a try I’ve no idea what either of those players game is all about. That hold up bullying striker is exactly what we’ve needed for an age . We have got that is wesley we now needed a striker who is mobile and can score Davis has a shocking record in front of goal highest season total of 7! less than brown and campbell over last few years. If we had taken him instead of Wesley i would of agreed.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 28, 2023 9:53:19 GMT
I’ve no idea what either of those players game is all about. That hold up bullying striker is exactly what we’ve needed for an age . We have got that is wesley we now needed a striker who is mobile and can score Davis has a shocking record in front of goal highest season total of 7! less than brown and campbell over last few years. If we had taken him instead of Wesley i would of agreed. What I’ve seen of Wesley I don’t think he’s the answer as anymore than a bit part player. Too slow, not good in the air, doesn’t take shots on. Very strong.
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Post by trotter1980 on Aug 28, 2023 9:54:57 GMT
We have got that is wesley we now needed a striker who is mobile and can score Davis has a shocking record in front of goal highest season total of 7! less than brown and campbell over last few years. If we had taken him instead of Wesley i would of agreed. What I’ve seen of Wesley I don’t think he’s the answer as anymore than a bit part player. Too slow, not good in the air, doesn’t take shots on. Very strong. i wont disagree with you on that mate just dont think he will sign another of that type
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Post by somersetpotter on Aug 28, 2023 9:58:26 GMT
Big Wes is coming back from a massive injury and plays a role that is extremely physically demanding. When he gets rolling he’ll be miles better than Keinan Davis. He’s already shown an ability to link play well and absolutely bullied the WBA defender for his goal.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 28, 2023 10:00:25 GMT
Big Wes is coming back from a massive injury and plays a role that is extremely physically demanding. When he gets rolling he’ll be miles better than Keinan Davis. He’s already shown an ability to link play well and absolutely bullied the WBA defender for his goal. He isn’t coming back from a massive injury he played regularly in Spain last season and did very little. Edit: He’s highly unlikely to get much quicker, more mobile or start to leap any better.
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Post by somersetpotter on Aug 28, 2023 10:04:35 GMT
Big Wes is coming back from a massive injury and plays a role that is extremely physically demanding. When he gets rolling he’ll be miles better than Keinan Davis. He’s already shown an ability to link play well and absolutely bullied the WBA defender for his goal. He isn’t coming back from a massive injury he played regularly in Spain last season and did very little. Edit: He’s highly unlikely to get much quicker, more mobile or start to leap any better. Fair, I thought he was coming back from an injury as that’s how he looks. I still think he’ll come good when he’s up to speed
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Post by greystokie on Aug 28, 2023 10:10:54 GMT
Has the Campbell link to Everton been reignited? I’d prefer Campbell to stay as the new set up may help him fulfil his potential It seems that we haven’t finished buying/ selling / loaning in this window Everton are close to signing Potugese striker Beto for £26M so I doubt they will pursue a deal for Campbell.
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Post by ferryside on Aug 28, 2023 10:11:40 GMT
We have got that is wesley we now needed a striker who is mobile and can score Davis has a shocking record in front of goal highest season total of 7! less than brown and campbell over last few years. If we had taken him instead of Wesley i would of agreed. What I’ve seen of Wesley I don’t think he’s the answer as anymore than a bit part player. Too slow, not good in the air, doesn’t take shots on. Very strong. Yep and that strength has created two goals in about 4 games. One himself via WBA and the Vidigals wonder goal wouldn't have happened without him. He's signed players like Leris to do the high press running as Brown did now we need an out and out striker. Davis is ok but he doesn't excel at any of those certainly not goals.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 28, 2023 10:14:34 GMT
We've already seen this season, we are missing that man in central striker role that we can depend on.
Cannon is guaranteed goals. If we can sign him for 5-7 million, get him in. We will get goals and we'll get our money back on a future sale. Get him in!
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