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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 19, 2023 8:58:29 GMT
With our recent cold feet over the transfer of 1.25m sarkic...are we sure we're gonna pay a higher fee for Stewart who has also got a history of injuries.. not convinced we will. We need a reliable fit squad , he is too big a risk until he proves his fitness and returns to the level he was at before his injury in my view And then he will be out of our price range. 🤷♂️
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 19, 2023 9:04:16 GMT
I'd rather see us go for Akor Adams at Lillestrøm. He has scored regularly this season, is still young and will only increase his value. I'm almost certain a bid around £4M for him would make it very hard to resist for a club like Lillestrøm. Unproven at this level, but no health issues! I don't think we are in the position to pay 4 mill for an unproven player. ....but we are for a player with an uncertain injury outcome?
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Post by stokesupporter on Jul 19, 2023 9:13:50 GMT
I don't think we are in the position to pay 4 mill for an unproven player. ....but we are for a player with an uncertain injury outcome? Allegedly.
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Post by cotswoldstokie on Jul 19, 2023 11:26:39 GMT
Move a Gayle on and you've got £20k per week to play with. Even better so a swap deal with Gayle going the other way The issue is who would pay Gayle £20,000 a week - he’s scored three goals in as many seasons. Not Gayle’s fault we offered him £20k - but hopefully someone might fancy a punt on him and we could pay him the lions share of what we are contractually obliged to do. 😞
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Post by thevoid on Jul 19, 2023 11:29:03 GMT
Even better so a swap deal with Gayle going the other way The issue is who would pay Gayle £20,000 a week - he’s scored three goals in as many seasons. Not Gayle’s fault we offered him £20k - but hopefully someone might fancy a punt on him and we could pay him the lions share of what we are contractually obliged to do. 😞 Can't we just pay him off and send him on his way, or is that against FFP rules? He's a complete waste of a squad place
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Post by mr on Jul 19, 2023 11:29:56 GMT
Even better so a swap deal with Gayle going the other way The issue is who would pay Gayle £20,000 a week - he’s scored three goals in as many seasons. Not Gayle’s fault we offered him £20k - but hopefully someone might fancy a punt on him and we could pay him the lions share of what we are contractually obliged to do. 😞 At least we didn’t give him a 4 year contract.
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Post by mr on Jul 19, 2023 11:32:06 GMT
The issue is who would pay Gayle £20,000 a week - he’s scored three goals in as many seasons. Not Gayle’s fault we offered him £20k - but hopefully someone might fancy a punt on him and we could pay him the lions share of what we are contractually obliged to do. 😞 Can't we just pay him off and send him on his way, or is that against FFP rules? He's a complete waste of a squad place We’d be paying about a million if we just paid him off. Better to use him sparingly or loan him to someone that will pay half his wages.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 19, 2023 18:00:08 GMT
Another goal for Akor Adams tonight!
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Post by iamstokie on Jul 19, 2023 18:08:10 GMT
Can't we just pay him off and send him on his way, or is that against FFP rules? He's a complete waste of a squad place We’d be paying about a million if we just paid him off. Better to use him sparingly or loan him to someone that will pay half his wages. also you’ve got take into account that Newcastle are still paying him , would that stop if he moved clubs ??
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Post by topcat on Jul 19, 2023 21:45:30 GMT
The chat up this way is that he wants north of 20k per week and we aren't prepared to pay it given his injury record (he came to us with an injury, didn't play for 3 months, then had 2 major injuries last season)
There was a suggestion that we were close to an agreement prior to the achillies injury, but that deal has been put on ice
Personal opinion is that at 27, he wants a big deal because it's probably going to be the only big contract of his career. If money is the motivation, then Stoke is the place for him (I mean no offence, I just mean compared to what we will pay). On his day, he is unplayable but his injuries worry me. He played every game of our promotion season, but was injured either side of that.
Keep him fit and you would have (in my opinion) the best striker in the league.
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Post by BuzzB on Jul 19, 2023 22:15:10 GMT
The chat up this way is that he wants north of 20k per week and we aren't prepared to pay it given his injury record (he came to us with an injury, didn't play for 3 months, then had 2 major injuries last season) There was a suggestion that we were close to an agreement prior to the achillies injury, but that deal has been put on ice Personal opinion is that at 27, he wants a big deal because it's probably going to be the only big contract of his career. If money is the motivation, then Stoke is the place for him (I mean no offence, I just mean compared to what we will pay). On his day, he is unplayable but his injuries worry me. He played every game of our promotion season, but was injured either side of that. Keep him fit and you would have (in my opinion) the best striker in the league. Thanks for that. Can we interest you in Dwight Gayle in part-ex?
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Post by topcat on Jul 22, 2023 20:27:43 GMT
Thanks for that. Can we interest you in Dwight Gayle in part-ex?
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 22, 2023 20:34:39 GMT
Thanks for that. Can we interest you in Dwight Gayle in part-ex? 🤣🤣🤣 no then🤷🏼♂️
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 23, 2023 6:10:01 GMT
Nixon claims Southampton are favourites
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 23, 2023 7:16:49 GMT
5 million in the current market is far too much. Steer clear and continue to look for better value abroad
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 23, 2023 7:20:24 GMT
Nixon claims Southampton are favourites I feel like this makes sense if Adams is off. They have a few quid to take the punt.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 23, 2023 7:23:46 GMT
Do you really see him going this window when he’s been out since January and still a while from being fit?
Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko 2m Remarkably … yes
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Post by andystokey on Jul 23, 2023 7:47:38 GMT
Do you really see him going this window when he’s been out since January and still a while from being fit? Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko 2m Remarkably … yes Sunderland are going to need a deal in good time to decide on a replacement you'd think.
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Post by shakermaker on Jul 23, 2023 7:53:53 GMT
The chat up this way is that he wants north of 20k per week and we aren't prepared to pay it given his injury record (he came to us with an injury, didn't play for 3 months, then had 2 major injuries last season) There was a suggestion that we were close to an agreement prior to the achillies injury, but that deal has been put on ice Personal opinion is that at 27, he wants a big deal because it's probably going to be the only big contract of his career. If money is the motivation, then Stoke is the place for him (I mean no offence, I just mean compared to what we will pay). On his day, he is unplayable but his injuries worry me. He played every game of our promotion season, but was injured either side of that. Keep him fit and you would have (in my opinion) the best striker in the league. This puts me off Stewart even more. It sounds like he knows he's on his way to being a crock and wants a big fat contract to see him through his days as his injuries gradually turn him into Vokes Mk II. I'd rather we stay away from mercenaries who see clubs like Stoke as an insurance policy. Saying that, it's down to medical experts with more brains than me to thoroughly assess the injury and use the available evidence to deduce whether he can return to being the player he was before the Achilles injury.
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Post by theonlooker on Jul 23, 2023 8:04:49 GMT
The chat up this way is that he wants north of 20k per week and we aren't prepared to pay it given his injury record (he came to us with an injury, didn't play for 3 months, then had 2 major injuries last season) There was a suggestion that we were close to an agreement prior to the achillies injury, but that deal has been put on ice Personal opinion is that at 27, he wants a big deal because it's probably going to be the only big contract of his career. If money is the motivation, then Stoke is the place for him (I mean no offence, I just mean compared to what we will pay). On his day, he is unplayable but his injuries worry me. He played every game of our promotion season, but was injured either side of that. Keep him fit and you would have (in my opinion) the best striker in the league. This puts me off Stewart even more. It sounds like he knows he's on his way to being a crock and wants a big fat contract to see him through his days as his injuries gradually turn him into Vokes Mk II. I'd rather we stay away from mercenaries who see clubs like Stoke as an insurance policy. Saying that, it's down to medical experts with more brains than me to thoroughly assess the injury and use the available evidence to deduce whether he can return to being the player he was before the Achilles injury. I agree, at that price walk away and leave that lot lumbered with a crock. They are rumoured to be after Tom Cannon as a replacement. Just sign him instead. We could offer far more in wages than Sunderland and he wouldn't have to move home from the north west.
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2023 8:15:05 GMT
This puts me off Stewart even more. It sounds like he knows he's on his way to being a crock and wants a big fat contract to see him through his days as his injuries gradually turn him into Vokes Mk II. I'd rather we stay away from mercenaries who see clubs like Stoke as an insurance policy. Saying that, it's down to medical experts with more brains than me to thoroughly assess the injury and use the available evidence to deduce whether he can return to being the player he was before the Achilles injury. I agree, at that price walk away and leave that lot lumbered with a crock. They are rumoured to be after Tom Cannon as a replacement. Just sign him instead. We could offer far more in wages than Sunderland and he wouldn't have to move home from the north west. I think Cannon would be a loan
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Post by shakermaker on Jul 23, 2023 8:32:04 GMT
I agree, at that price walk away and leave that lot lumbered with a crock. They are rumoured to be after Tom Cannon as a replacement. Just sign him instead. We could offer far more in wages than Sunderland and he wouldn't have to move home from the north west. I think Cannon would be a loan Knowing our history, we’ll end up with Bobby Ball instead.
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Post by TinkerT on Jul 23, 2023 8:36:58 GMT
He wouldn't even pass a medical at the moment. We're definitely in for him though but looks like it will have to wait for January. We're looking elsewhere
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Post by march4 on Jul 23, 2023 8:44:25 GMT
On another thread, posters are talking about £10M+ for TC and yet we are scoffing at £5M+ for Stewart.
Who is worth most money in today’s transfer market?
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2023 8:46:54 GMT
On another thread, posters are talking about £10M+ for TC and yet we are scoffing at £5M+ for Stewart. Who is worth most money in today’s transfer market? Campbell, younger and not coming off an appalling injury
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Post by shrewspotter on Jul 23, 2023 8:47:03 GMT
He wouldn't even pass a medical at the moment. We're definitely in for him though but looks like it will have to wait for January. We're looking elsewhere agree, I think Aaron Collins could be the stop gap with Taylor the other way and then a bid for Stewart in January Trouble with that of course is that if Stewart gets injury free and bangs them in I doubt we could get near him
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Post by haway on Jul 23, 2023 8:52:11 GMT
Talk of around £7m is the fee on the table from Southampton.
I’d drive him down there myself if that’s true - and it’s a fair drive from Sunderland to Southampton!
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2023 8:54:53 GMT
Talk of around £7m is the fee on the table from Southampton. I’d drive him down there myself if that’s true - and it’s a fair drive from Sunderland to Southampton! Indeed Given the injury that's a big gamble for normal Championship clubs whereas Southampton won't see it as a big fee Stoke should move on
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 23, 2023 8:55:19 GMT
Talk of around £7m is the fee on the table from Southampton. I’d drive him down there myself if that’s true - and it’s a fair drive from Sunderland to Southampton! That seems to be guesswork from Nixon, and does seem a bit optimistic. But no doubt the market will decide! What do you think we could get for him now realistically al? Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko The way fees are now … a guaranteed sum and extras … about 7 plus 3 maybe
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Post by march4 on Jul 23, 2023 8:57:13 GMT
On another thread, posters are talking about £10M+ for TC and yet we are scoffing at £5M+ for Stewart. Who is worth most money in today’s transfer market? Campbell, younger and not coming off an appalling injury I seem to remember him suffering an appalling injury and still hasn’t recovered to his previous high standards. He also doesn’t score as many goals as Stewart. I would value them at the same.
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