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May 1, 2023 16:25:48 GMT
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Post by lordb on May 1, 2023 16:25:48 GMT
One if which we should have scored a hatfull Luton was proper shoddy Yes the Rotherham home game and Blackpool away were games we should have won with the chances created for sure Lucky away win at Bristol City mind Anyway what would constitute 1: good home form 2: acceptable I'm thinking 12 wins 6 draws 5 defeats would be good More home wins than defeats acceptable? When is last time we won more than we lost at home?
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May 1, 2023 16:28:37 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on May 1, 2023 16:28:37 GMT
His record at home at Preston: 2020-2021: lost 10 home games out of 19 before he got the sack (won just 5) - 6 of which finished 0-1 (including the first 3 home games, one of the games against us!) 2019-2020: lost 7 out of 23 home games - 3 finished 0-1 and he won 12. 2018-2019: lost 5 out of 23 home games - 1 finished 0-1 and he won 8. 2017-2018: lost 5 out of 23 home games - 2 finished 0-1 and he won 9. so in 4 seasons at Preston (last one only 19 games at home) he has won just 34 out of 88 home games - 39%. Interesting stat is in 2020/2021, where he used a 3-5-2 system a lot, it took his Preston side until 21st November to register their first home win of the season, a 1-0 win against Sheffield Wednesday after back to back defeats in all of their previous home games - to Swansea, Stoke, Cardiff, Millwall and Birmingham. I don't think it's a lack of creativity on the pitch that will be solved by a transfer window that is the problem. There is very much a recurring pattern here and it seems to be a certain manager at the middle of it... Interesting facts/stats mate and very concerning reading that The worry is our owners either haven't done their research of have done it and have discounted those stats for some reason? I'm hoping it isn't the same reason they hired Rowett - ie. Take a manager that has done a certain amount and just failed, throw him some cash and he can't fail. Personally, I'm just hoping everything just blows over and everything will be fine! I'm running out of ideas.
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 1, 2023 16:29:47 GMT
Yes the Rotherham home game and Blackpool away were games we should have won with the chances created for sure Lucky away win at Bristol City mind Anyway what would constitute 1: good home form 2: acceptable I'm thinking 12 wins 6 draws 5 defeats would be good More home wins than defeats acceptable? When is last time we won more than we lost at home? Last season: W10 D5 L8
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May 1, 2023 16:33:13 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 1, 2023 16:33:13 GMT
Interesting facts/stats mate and very concerning reading that The worry is our owners either haven't done their research of have done it and have discounted those stats for some reason? I'm hoping it isn't the same reason they hired Rowett - ie. Take a manager that has done a certain amount and just failed, throw him some cash and he can't fail. Personally, I'm just hoping everything just blows over and everything will be fine! I'm running out of ideas. Surely Neil must have learnt from from his previous failings in home form at other clubs though and I’m pretty convinced that 2 wingers and a target man will solve the majority of our attacking problems Also what was his home form like at Norwich in their promotion season?
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May 1, 2023 16:33:16 GMT
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Post by lordb on May 1, 2023 16:33:16 GMT
Lucky away win at Bristol City mind Anyway what would constitute 1: good home form 2: acceptable I'm thinking 12 wins 6 draws 5 defeats would be good More home wins than defeats acceptable? When is last time we won more than we lost at home? Last season: W10 D5 L8 Amazed at that Hmm maybe that isn't acceptable either 6 home defeats max
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May 1, 2023 16:35:08 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 1, 2023 16:35:08 GMT
Yes the Rotherham home game and Blackpool away were games we should have won with the chances created for sure Lucky away win at Bristol City mind Anyway what would constitute 1: good home form 2: acceptable I'm thinking 12 wins 6 draws 5 defeats would be good More home wins than defeats acceptable? When is last time we won more than we lost at home? Burnley’s home form is something we should be aiming for😊
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May 1, 2023 16:46:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2023 16:46:35 GMT
12 home defeats and 7 of them have been 1-0.This for me tells you everything you need to know about our lack of creativity to break teams down. Only two 1-0 defeats in away games though at Blackpool and Luton His record at home at Preston: 2020-2021: lost 10 home games out of 19 before he got the sack (won just 5) - 6 of which finished 0-1 (including the first 3 home games, one of the games against us!) 2019-2020: lost 7 out of 23 home games - 3 finished 0-1 and he won 12. 2018-2019: lost 5 out of 23 home games - 1 finished 0-1 and he won 8. 2017-2018: lost 5 out of 23 home games - 2 finished 0-1 and he won 9. so in 4 seasons at Preston (last one only 19 games at home) he has won just 34 out of 88 home games - 39%. Interesting stat is in 2020/2021, where he used a 3-5-2 system a lot, it took his Preston side until 21st November to register their first home win of the season, a 1-0 win against Sheffield Wednesday after back to back defeats in all of their previous home games - to Swansea, Stoke, Cardiff, Millwall and Birmingham. I don't think it's a lack of creativity on the pitch that will be solved by a transfer window that is the problem. There is very much a recurring pattern here and it seems to be a certain manager at the middle of it... Unless I'm reading those stats wrong for a club like Preston with very limited financial resources all except his final season are decent.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 1, 2023 17:04:48 GMT
12 home defeats and 7 of them have been 1-0.This for me tells you everything you need to know about our lack of creativity to break teams down. Only two 1-0 defeats in away games though at Blackpool and Luton His record at home at Preston: 2020-2021: lost 10 home games out of 19 before he got the sack (won just 5) - 6 of which finished 0-1 (including the first 3 home games, one of the games against us!) 2019-2020: lost 7 out of 23 home games - 3 finished 0-1 and he won 12. 2018-2019: lost 5 out of 23 home games - 1 finished 0-1 and he won 8. 2017-2018: lost 5 out of 23 home games - 2 finished 0-1 and he won 9. so in 4 seasons at Preston (last one only 19 games at home) he has won just 34 out of 88 home games - 39%. Interesting stat is in 2020/2021, where he used a 3-5-2 system a lot, it took his Preston side until 21st November to register their first home win of the season, a 1-0 win against Sheffield Wednesday after back to back defeats in all of their previous home games - to Swansea, Stoke, Cardiff, Millwall and Birmingham. I don't think it's a lack of creativity on the pitch that will be solved by a transfer window that is the problem. There is very much a recurring pattern here and it seems to be a certain manager at the middle of it... Just had a look at his Norwich home record when he took over in the January of their promotion season and it was W7 D1 L3 and also the home play off semi final win against Ipswich,so not too bad at all
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Post by mr on May 3, 2023 9:47:49 GMT
The worry is our owners either haven't done their research of have done it and have discounted those stats for some reason? I'm hoping it isn't the same reason they hired Rowett - ie. Take a manager that has done a certain amount and just failed, throw him some cash and he can't fail. Personally, I'm just hoping everything just blows over and everything will be fine! I'm running out of ideas. Surely Neil must have learnt from from his previous failings in home form at other clubs though and I’m pretty convinced that 2 wingers and a target man will solve the majority of our attacking problems Also what was his home form like at Norwich in their promotion season? 2 wingers that try and take on their man every time they get the ball. I don’t think it’s difficult to understand why we struggle at home against the teams that sit in, we don’t have players taking people on enough to bring other defenders out of their shape and create space. And we don’t have a target man that can win the majority of headers or hold the ball up.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 3, 2023 9:57:06 GMT
Surely Neil must have learnt from from his previous failings in home form at other clubs though and I’m pretty convinced that 2 wingers and a target man will solve the majority of our attacking problems Also what was his home form like at Norwich in their promotion season? 2 wingers that try and take on their man every time they get the ball. I don’t think it’s difficult to understand why we struggle at home against the teams that sit in, we don’t have players taking people on enough to bring other defenders out of their shape and create space. And we don’t have a target man that can win the majority of headers or hold the ball up. To be fair, that's exactly what Neil has been saying. We'll see if can get the tricky wingers and big target man in that he claims will be the answer www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/match-reports/stoke-city-qpr-live-stream-8398829"What summed up the second half for me was that Chair gets the ball in a wide area and chops Ki-Jana Hoever, fakes to cross it, flings the ball in and they look like they're going to score. "We get into that position I reckon about 40 times today but we don't have players in those areas who can beat people. What we have to do is send it back to Morgan Fox to put it in from a different angle. It's completely different. " We've talked about a lack of technicians at the top end of the pitch who can beat players one for one and we've talked about a lack of a target man. I feel like I'm repeating myself.
" I know where the problems lie." Can you go a long way to fixing those problems this summer? Neil: "Of course we can. It's an easy fix, it's not a difficult fix. Most of the teams at the top end of the division come across that team who sit back, can be behind the ball and frustrate them and try to get the home fans turning against them and play off frustration, play percentages, put the ball in a certain area and play for a set play. To be fair to QPR, they did it last week against Burnley. How Burnley didn't win 6-0 I don't quite know but QPR scored from two set plays, a long throw and a cross or corner into the box. "But they need to do what they have to do to win games, we've not been good enough to do it in the other manner which teams at the top end of the division have been."
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May 3, 2023 10:12:12 GMT
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Post by mr on May 3, 2023 10:12:12 GMT
That’s good to hear. He’s identified the problem so hopefully the recruitment for these positions will be good.
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Post by nott1 on May 3, 2023 10:15:52 GMT
His record at home at Preston: 2020-2021: lost 10 home games out of 19 before he got the sack (won just 5) - 6 of which finished 0-1 (including the first 3 home games, one of the games against us!) 2019-2020: lost 7 out of 23 home games - 3 finished 0-1 and he won 12. 2018-2019: lost 5 out of 23 home games - 1 finished 0-1 and he won 8. 2017-2018: lost 5 out of 23 home games - 2 finished 0-1 and he won 9. so in 4 seasons at Preston (last one only 19 games at home) he has won just 34 out of 88 home games - 39%. Interesting stat is in 2020/2021, where he used a 3-5-2 system a lot, it took his Preston side until 21st November to register their first home win of the season, a 1-0 win against Sheffield Wednesday after back to back defeats in all of their previous home games - to Swansea, Stoke, Cardiff, Millwall and Birmingham. I don't think it's a lack of creativity on the pitch that will be solved by a transfer window that is the problem. There is very much a recurring pattern here and it seems to be a certain manager at the middle of it... Just had a look at his Norwich home record when he took over in the January of their promotion season and it was W7 D1 L3 and also the home play off semi final win against Ipswich,so not too bad at all Lovely but he's not doing it here!
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May 3, 2023 10:20:15 GMT
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Post by marrer on May 3, 2023 10:20:15 GMT
Points 3101030003100313031000 Pitiful Goals 2201030012200403030110 Goalless in nearly half of the games. 2nd half goals 1101010010000302010000 Not a good year for the Boothen End, and one of those above was in the South Stand (Baker pen vs Birmingham) It’s been rather shite. That's a fuck of a big couple of numbers there. Far bigger than anything I can get on my calculator. We should be top of the league!
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