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Post by werrington on Apr 5, 2023 5:55:40 GMT
What’s the thinking?
It’s HUGE for all the parties and usually a gauge of general election voting
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Post by iancransonsknees on Apr 6, 2023 20:21:58 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Apr 6, 2023 20:39:37 GMT
What’s the thinking? It’s HUGE for all the parties and usually a gauge of general election voting I do t think it’s much of a gauge. Tories will get trounced but come a GE Will they trust Starmer.
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Post by werrington on Apr 7, 2023 6:05:34 GMT
What’s the thinking? It’s HUGE for all the parties and usually a gauge of general election voting I do t think it’s much of a gauge. Tories will get trounced but come a GE Will they trust Starmer. I’m no Starmer fan mate but even the most ardent Tory can’t trust this lot in power I also think Labour will make huge gains right across the board and it could be the biggest kick in the bollocks any serving party has ever suffered
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Post by questionable on Apr 7, 2023 6:21:06 GMT
Without doubt the Conservatives will get absolutely battered both locally and come the GE, funnily enough I only mentioned yesterday I haven’t seen a single party out and about knocking on doors, I was told yesterday that local Conservatives aren’t willing to do so as they fear the backlash off the public.
It’ll be very interesting to gauge the feeling here as it’s a very elderly population and a smallish village but renowned for strong conservative voting trends.
I’ll be voting Labour
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Post by knype on Apr 7, 2023 7:13:22 GMT
Not voting again ever ! All of the self serving wankers in all parties can go fook themselves
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 7, 2023 7:31:26 GMT
Not voting again ever ! All of the self serving wankers in all parties can go fook themselves I think the problem is that there’s things I don't like about all 3 parties The Tories - Are corrupt and simply can’t be trusted though I do feel Sunak is a far safer pair of hands than what went before him. Still won’t vote for them though as I think they’ve let the country down on so many levels. Labour - I’m not sure what their plan is. As a person I quite like Starmer though he comes across quite weak. There’s also an element of the party I don’t like with the likes McDonnel and Lammy amongst others. SDP - No chance of getting in. At the moment I’m looking at Labour as getting my vote as they can’t do any worse, however spoiling my paper is coming a very close second.
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Post by stokie63 on Apr 7, 2023 7:52:49 GMT
Labour for me ive always been, I detest torys they only care for themselves and their rich voters.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Apr 7, 2023 8:02:45 GMT
Not voting again ever ! All of the self serving wankers in all parties can go fook themselves I'll vote in local elections but I've no interest in voting nationally ever again, they're all pigs at different sides of the same trough. Given my area of work it suits me for labour to get in even if I don't necessarily agree with them. 10-15 years of them should hopefully see me through to early retirement.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 7, 2023 8:15:00 GMT
I’ll be voting for Labours Shaun Pender in the locals. Having met him several times he “seems” like a genuinely decent chap.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 7, 2023 8:18:27 GMT
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Post by lordb on Apr 7, 2023 8:26:34 GMT
I’ll be voting for Labours Shaun Pender in the locals. Having met him several times he “seems” like a genuinely decent chap. With local elections especially I think simply having a decent person is more important than party These elections will be seen as a prelude to the GE though so it's just a question of the scale of the Tory defeat
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Post by elystokie on Apr 7, 2023 8:29:06 GMT
I can see a lot of Tories not bothering to vote.
Gideon hasn't been terrible as MPs go (not that I voted for her) but if I'd voted Gullis in I don't think I'd ever vote again.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 7, 2023 9:12:38 GMT
I’ll be voting for Labours Shaun Pender in the locals. Having met him several times he “seems” like a genuinely decent chap. With local elections especially I think simply having a decent person is more important than party These elections will be seen as a prelude to the GE though so it's just a question of the scale of the Tory defeat Spot on and this is the problem and why the current system is floored. Theres good and bad in both parties.
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Post by questionable on Apr 7, 2023 13:34:42 GMT
I’ll be voting for Labours Shaun Pender in the locals. Having met him several times he “seems” like a genuinely decent chap. I know him and his brother nice lads, I get him and his twin brother mixed up but anyway one of them is married to my wife’s mate
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Post by salopstick on Apr 7, 2023 17:05:21 GMT
I do t think it’s much of a gauge. Tories will get trounced but come a GE Will they trust Starmer. I’m no Starmer fan mate but even the most ardent Tory can’t trust this lot in power I also think Labour will make huge gains right across the board and it could be the biggest kick in the bollocks any serving party has ever suffered I’m loathe to vote Tory in the next GE. More because a change is as good as a rest. The last few years has been dismal
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Post by salopstick on Apr 7, 2023 17:07:17 GMT
I’ll be voting for Labours Shaun Pender in the locals. Having met him several times he “seems” like a genuinely decent chap. With local elections especially I think simply having a decent person is more important than party These elections will be seen as a prelude to the GE though so it's just a question of the scale of the Tory defeat A mate of mine and someone I served with is a local Tory councillor a very decent bloke and he will get my vote. That’s personal rather than party driven
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 7, 2023 17:31:03 GMT
I can see a lot of Tories not bothering to vote. Gideon hasn't been terrible as MPs go (not that I voted for her) but if I'd voted Gullis in I don't think I'd ever vote again. I suspect that's right. Although, now that Bozo and Truss have gone, many of those Tory-inclined voters who would've stayed at home are now probably thinking "new faces, all good again" despite the fact that Sunak and most of his government were there throughout the previous farces and queuing up to publicly support Bozo on numerous occasions! I would not be surprised if many people gave the Tories a bit of a shoeing next month, then went back to voting for them at the GE next Spring, which does make you wonder how bad things actually need to get before people will actually choose to make their lives better!
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Post by lordb on Apr 7, 2023 21:14:56 GMT
I can see a lot of Tories not bothering to vote. Gideon hasn't been terrible as MPs go (not that I voted for her) but if I'd voted Gullis in I don't think I'd ever vote again. I suspect that's right. Although, now that Bozo and Truss have gone, many of those Tory-inclined voters who would've stayed at home are now probably thinking "new faces, all good again" despite the fact that Sunak and most of his government were there throughout the previous farces and queuing up to publicly support Bozo on numerous occasions! I would not be surprised if many people gave the Tories a bit of a shoeing next month, then went back to voting for them at the GE next Spring, which does make you wonder how bad things actually need to get before people will actually choose to make their lives better! Some will but I think most Tory MPs are expecting to be out of government at the next election
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Post by flea79 on Apr 8, 2023 1:52:06 GMT
Labour or Tory in hartshill, to borrow a phrase from South Park it’s giant douche or turd sandwich
I shall spoil my vote as an expression of dissatisfaction
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Post by elystokie on Apr 8, 2023 6:03:36 GMT
I suspect that's right. Although, now that Bozo and Truss have gone, many of those Tory-inclined voters who would've stayed at home are now probably thinking "new faces, all good again" despite the fact that Sunak and most of his government were there throughout the previous farces and queuing up to publicly support Bozo on numerous occasions! I would not be surprised if many people gave the Tories a bit of a shoeing next month, then went back to voting for them at the GE next Spring, which does make you wonder how bad things actually need to get before people will actually choose to make their lives better! Some will but I think most Tory MPs are expecting to be out of government at the next election Locally Gideon has read the room and is bowing out, can't see Brereton stepping down, Gullis who knows, he has such a lack of self awareness he probably thinks he'll piss it 🤦
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Post by desman2 on Apr 8, 2023 10:25:06 GMT
If someone can actually tell me a policy that any party is pushing then I might take an interest. Someone who rides the see saw of blue/red/blue/red, simply voting for one because they don't like the other deserves the shit show we've been dealt up for the past 30 years.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 9, 2023 7:10:19 GMT
If someone can actually tell me a policy that any party is pushing then I might take an interest. Someone who rides the see saw of blue/red/blue/red, simply voting for one because they don't like the other deserves the shit show we've been dealt up for the past 30 years. There's a whole wealth of information on this thing called the internet you could use to find out about those policies.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 9, 2023 7:14:09 GMT
The Communist Party have a candidate running in our local election, there’s also an NHS consultant running, as well as a Green candidate. I know this as they’ve all knocked on my door, unlike the two main parties……..
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 9, 2023 7:16:28 GMT
The Communist Party have a candidate running in our local election, there’s also an NHS consultant running, as well as a Green candidate. I know this as they’ve all knocked on my door, unlike the two main parties…….. Crikey, I bet you had a right laugh with the communist party candidate
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Post by Robo10 on Apr 9, 2023 8:50:15 GMT
Voting will be a shitshow with forced photo ID if you want to cast your ballot
Hopefully most people will be aware but I can see mither in some areas - we all know why its been bought in, and its not to combat the virtually non existant voter fraud....the Govs own research paper shows a few hundred cases since 2010, into the tens for convictions!
(Also if you are old (and therefore more likely a Tory) you can use a multitude of ID inc Oyster Cards etc....if you are young (and more likely left leaning/liberal) you cant....go figure)
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Post by elystokie on Apr 9, 2023 8:58:50 GMT
Voting will be a shitshow with forced photo ID if you want to cast your ballot Hopefully most people will be aware but I can see mither in some areas - we all know why its been bought in, and its not to combat the virtually non existant voter fraud....the Govs own research paper shows a few hundred cases since 2010, into the tens for convictions! (Also if you are old (and therefore more likely a Tory) you can use a multitude of ID inc Oyster Cards etc....if you are young (and more likely left leaning/liberal) you cant....go figure) This government specialises in addressing concerns that affect pretty much nobody or anything other than the sensibilities of certain newspaper readers. Exemplified by the recent fuss they made recently over something that kills around 1 person a year on average.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 9, 2023 9:30:21 GMT
Voting will be a shitshow with forced photo ID if you want to cast your ballot Hopefully most people will be aware but I can see mither in some areas - we all know why its been bought in, and its not to combat the virtually non existant voter fraud....the Govs own research paper shows a few hundred cases since 2010, into the tens for convictions! (Also if you are old (and therefore more likely a Tory) you can use a multitude of ID inc Oyster Cards etc....if you are young (and more likely left leaning/liberal) you cant....go figure) And the ironic thing is that anyone with any sense, or irritation at having to do something intended to address a problem which doesn't exist, will get a postal vote instead, thereby costing local authorities more money and potentially increasing the opportunity for electoral fraud! But, we all know electoral fraud is not the real reason this move was introduced. Anyone wanting to go down that route...it's pretty straightforward. You don't even have to pay for a stamp! www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/voter/apply-vote-post?gclid=Cj0KCQjwxMmhBhDJARIsANFGOSsLSMJWTcE8yWGGScXOtGIlrK-Pbc1GoO2gaA4PIC4l5kjY0AWQaXoaAmvgEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Post by dutchstokie on Apr 9, 2023 9:59:45 GMT
Just recently had ours over here…. I voted ‘Groen Links’ or the Green left party….. the farmers group swept almost all of the local elections. - as a protest vote due to the on going pollution problem here in NL……. Which the government say is the farmers fault !!
If I were over there right now I would wipe my arse witje ballot paper whilst in the voting cubicle, pull back the curtain and just pop it in the ballot box….
All it’s good for.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 9, 2023 11:11:51 GMT
Just recently had ours over here…. I voted ‘Groen Links’ or the Green left party….. the farmers group swept almost all of the local elections. - as a protest vote due to the on going pollution problem here in NL……. Which the government say is the farmers fault !! If I were over there right now I would wipe my arse witje ballot paper whilst in the voting cubicle, pull back the curtain and just pop it in the ballot box…. All it’s good for. Witje? Is that pigeon Dutch? 😉
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