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Post by ashleyscfc on Apr 3, 2023 21:33:57 GMT
As JC alluded to at the recent MTM event, it seems there is major work coming to the stadium in the summer (although other than a fan park I’m intrigued to see where)
So much so, Frank Warren (boxing promoter) confirmed today the club pulled the plug on a Heaney fight at the stadium in the summer because of it, which is a real real shame, as they’ve been only so happy to piggyback off his success otherwise.
Although we all know they’d only make a mess of the transport anyway…
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 3, 2023 21:37:56 GMT
As JC alluded to at the recent MTM event, it seems there is major work coming to the stadium in the summer (although other than a fan park I’m intrigued to see where) So much so, Frank Warren (boxing promoter) confirmed today the club pulled the plug on a Heaney fight at the stadium in the summer because of it, which is a real real shame, as they’ve been only so happy to piggyback off his success otherwise. Although we all know they’d only make a mess of the transport anyway… Retractable roof now we’re playing scintillating turf stuff. Get it done Coates! |
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Post by stokeranger on Apr 3, 2023 21:41:19 GMT
As JC alluded to at the recent MTM event, it seems there is major work coming to the stadium in the summer (although other than a fan park I’m intrigued to see where) So much so, Frank Warren (boxing promoter) confirmed today the club pulled the plug on a Heaney fight at the stadium in the summer because of it, which is a real real shame, as they’ve been only so happy to piggyback off his success otherwise. Although we all know they’d only make a mess of the transport anyway… Retractable roof now we’re playing scintillating turf stuff. Get it done Coates! Get the last corner done. |
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Post by Jimm on Apr 3, 2023 21:41:20 GMT
Hopefully they are knocking the south stand corner down
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 3, 2023 21:41:59 GMT
I'm not ITK at all but my guess would be extending the size of the concourses in the Boothen End and the Tile Mountain stand - to match the size of the concourses of the new corner.
Regulations on sizes of them changed between the new stadium being built and the new corner and I reckon they will use this summer to do that.
It would make sense in one way as it's the type of project you could get done in a summer.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 3, 2023 21:46:05 GMT
Retractable roof now we’re playing scintillating turf stuff. Get it done Coates! Get the last corner done. Isn’t there 2… |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Apr 3, 2023 22:11:27 GMT
Get the last corner done. Isn’t there 2… I was scratching my head aswell. Although the horseshoe shape gives me excellent memories of my visit to the Vicente' Calderón. Just missing an extra screen with enormous Coca-Cola advertisement. |
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Post by ashleyscfc on Apr 3, 2023 22:12:20 GMT
I’ve always thought of things they could do:
-New fan zone
-Expanding concourse size
-Relocated ticket office
-Tunnel corner redevelopment with hotel/offices/museum development
-Central players tunnel added following digging under the main stand
-Improved fan access (bridges/subways added to the main roundabout)
-New slip road onto A50
- Better car/bus management
-Offsite/nearby “community stadium” for academy & women’s games
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 3, 2023 22:17:46 GMT
I’ve always thought of things they could do: -New fan zone -Expanding concourse size -Relocated ticket office -Tunnel corner redevelopment with hotel/offices/museum development -Central players tunnel added following digging under the main stand -Improved fan access (bridges/subways added to the main roundabout) -New slip road onto A50 - Better car/bus management -Offsite/nearby “community stadium” for academy & women’s games Where and why would you move the ticket office? |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Apr 3, 2023 22:28:41 GMT
A bigger concourse would be brilliant for me being in a chair, it’s a bit of a squeeze though I am yet to roll over anyone’s toes! Maybe it could lead to a bit of a new look from outside the ground to make it modern.
The museum idea above is a nice one. I’m not sure what already exists through the posh doors in the main stand though.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Apr 3, 2023 22:28:46 GMT
I’ve always thought of things they could do: -New fan zone -Expanding concourse size -Relocated ticket office -Tunnel corner redevelopment with hotel/offices/museum development -Central players tunnel added following digging under the main stand -Improved fan access (bridges/subways added to the main roundabout) -New slip road onto A50 - Better car/bus management -Offsite/nearby “community stadium” for academy & women’s games Where and why would you move the ticket office? Free up space, and anywhere else around the ground. The police carrier park grass near the entrance? To serve home and away fans |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 3, 2023 22:31:15 GMT
Where and why would you move the ticket office? Free up space, and anywhere else around the ground. The police carrier park grass near the entrance? To serve home and away fans I guess they wouldn’t want the two mixing? Has the away end got a satellite ticket office? |
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Post by callas12 on Apr 3, 2023 22:40:20 GMT
I’ve always thought of things they could do: -New fan zone -Expanding concourse size -Relocated ticket office -Tunnel corner redevelopment with hotel/offices/museum development -Central players tunnel added following digging under the main stand -Improved fan access (bridges/subways added to the main roundabout) -New slip road onto A50 - Better car/bus management -Offsite/nearby “community stadium” for academy & women’s games Definitely need some kind of museum, despite a serious lack of honours for a club of our history & stature, we're a club steeped in rich history with a plethora of top players who have worn our red & white shirt. There's plenty of artifacts & display pieces that could make a museum a place for us celebrate our past and worthy of visiting. Would be good if fans could donate/loan pieces of retro merchandise to display. I've got a fair bit of old bits & pieces that would look better mounted in frames in a club museum than packed away in a drawer.. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 3, 2023 22:40:51 GMT
Unless they're demolishing 1000 houses to make way for this development, I've no interest in knowing what poxy work they may be planning.
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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on Apr 3, 2023 23:36:14 GMT
Expanding the concourse should be first on the list, let’s face it it’s more than cramped when the gate is over 20k. I don’t see any point in spending any money on filling in corners, Too many empty seats as it is ( I hope that changes next season) and I would rather the money be invested in the playing squad.
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Post by scfcrmagic on Apr 3, 2023 23:47:30 GMT
I’ve always thought of things they could do: -New fan zone -Expanding concourse size -Relocated ticket office -Tunnel corner redevelopment with hotel/offices/museum development -Central players tunnel added following digging under the main stand -Improved fan access (bridges/subways added to the main roundabout) -New slip road onto A50 - Better car/bus management -Offsite/nearby “community stadium” for academy & women’s games Definitely need some kind of museum, despite a serious lack of honours for a club of our history & stature, we're a club steeped in rich history with a plethora of top players who have worn our red & white shirt. There's plenty of artifacts & display pieces that could make a museum a place for us celebrate our past and worthy of visiting. Would be good if fans could donate/loan pieces of retro merchandise to display. I've got a fair bit of old bits & pieces that would look better mounted in frames in a club museum than packed away in a drawer.. A museum is a great idea and would help me out no end …..😀 we have loads of memorabilia, trophies , medals, awards , stuff dad was presented with . The list is endless, I thought it would be better to try and keep a lot of it together as a collection, rather than divide it up. As a family we’ve grown up with all these things and they are familiar to us, but I always thought it would be nice for other people to see them. Things were squirrelled away over the years, right back to dads school report.and his army/national service days, plus an extensive photo collection. As I’m struggling for storage, this would solve my problem in one go 😄 |
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Apr 4, 2023 8:05:47 GMT
Whilst a museum is a nice idea I don't think it's viable. Once the fans that want to visit have visited, who does it attract?
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Post by bingbang on Apr 4, 2023 8:14:17 GMT
Heated seats and heaters under the roof 👍
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Post by march4 on Apr 4, 2023 8:18:48 GMT
Whilst a museum is a nice idea I don't think it's viable. Once the fans that want to visit have visited, who does it attract? A museum is also a safe place for precious items to be kept. I think it’s a good idea if the club did collect together items of note for future generations. |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Apr 4, 2023 8:30:39 GMT
I’ve always thought of things they could do: -New fan zone -Expanding concourse size -Relocated ticket office -Tunnel corner redevelopment with hotel/offices/museum development -Central players tunnel added following digging under the main stand -Improved fan access (bridges/subways added to the main roundabout) -New slip road onto A50 - Better car/bus management -Offsite/nearby “community stadium” for academy & women’s games What possible demand do you think there would be for a hotel given there is one nearby, occupancy in the city isn’t great and the current hotels hardly make money? And what demand would there be for offices with no facilities nearby? |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Apr 4, 2023 8:38:58 GMT
Expanding the concourse should be first on the list, let’s face it it’s more than cramped when the gate is over 20k. I don’t see any point in spending any money on filling in corners, Too many empty seats as it is ( I hope that changes next season) and I would rather the money be invested in the playing squad. To expand the concourses would they have to cut into the grass bank behind the stand? Not much room out there now when loads of people milling about.. also they can spend as much as they want on the stadium etc won't affect what they can spend on players. |
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Post by stokeranger on Apr 4, 2023 8:46:10 GMT
Expanding the concourse should be first on the list, let’s face it it’s more than cramped when the gate is over 20k. I don’t see any point in spending any money on filling in corners, Too many empty seats as it is ( I hope that changes next season) and I would rather the money be invested in the playing squad. To expand the concourses would they have to cut into the grass bank behind the stand? Not much room out there now when loads of people milling about.. also they can spend as much as they want on the stadium etc won't affect what they can spend on players. We need a wind breaker on the left side of the main stand. Like the one West Brom have. It looks horrible with that big hole showing as it looks today. |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Apr 4, 2023 8:48:20 GMT
I'm not ITK at all but my guess would be extending the size of the concourses in the Boothen End and the Tile Mountain stand - to match the size of the concourses of the new corner. Regulations on sizes of them changed between the new stadium being built and the new corner and I reckon they will use this summer to do that. It would make sense in one way as it's the type of project you could get done in a summer. I'm not sure that expanding the concourses can be done in the summer? There isn't an obvious quick way to do it because there's no obvious wasted space underneath the stands to extend into. So it would surely require an extension outwards which would involve a lot of heavy structural work. And the pathways outside would need to be moved outwards to accommodate the outwards extension. Unless I'm thinking about it wrong (I'm certainly no architect or structural engineer) it just feels like something that would be very expensive and take a while to do. |
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Post by sealion100 on Apr 4, 2023 9:02:22 GMT
Build another Ricardo’s (Crouchies).....
Between the main Stand and block 19, behind the scoreboard
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Post by Scouse on Apr 4, 2023 9:28:56 GMT
Three possibles re the increase to the original £20m ( other than costs increasing due to inflation , brexit , covid etc )
1) Theyve widened the list of work
2 ) Issues were found last year during the Ricardo and hospitality suites redevelopments that impact on other parts of the stadium ,future projects
3) After bad PR they kind of committed to sorting out Norton .. ( woman's and occasional academy use ) ..presumably they have a plan a , b and c by now for that that .. plan a being temporary porta cabin type first stage solution .. plan b new permanent dressing rooms etc ..plan c full bells and whistles likely low millions as a minimum perhaps to include the leasehold .. has any work started there or has anyone seen any planning applications being put in
Anything other than standard pitch work , ( that can still cost a hell of a lot ) or at Clayton will likely be very careful PR managed to help build the general feel good factor
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Post by bagnallboothen on Apr 4, 2023 9:35:57 GMT
Three possibles re the increase to the original £20m ( other than costs increasing due to inflation , brexit , covid etc ) 1) Theyve widened the list of work 2 ) Issues were found last year during the Ricardo and hospitality suites redevelopments that impact on other parts of the stadium ,future projects 3) After bad PR they kind of committed to sorting out Norton .. ( woman's and occasional academy use ) ..presumably they have a plan a , b and c by now for that that .. plan a being temporary porta cabin type first stage solution .. plan b new permanent dressing rooms etc ..plan c full bells and whistles likely low millions as a minimum perhaps to include the leasehold .. has any work started there or has anyone seen any planning applications being put in Anything other than standard pitch work , ( that can still cost a hell of a lot ) or at Clayton will likely be very careful PR managed to help build the general feel good factor If they're serious about the women's team the first thing they need to do is find a new home. They can spend on it whatever they want but it'll always be in Smallthorne, hardly known for its links to Stoke City is it. |
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Post by cousindupree on Apr 4, 2023 9:54:12 GMT
I’ve always thought of things they could do: -New fan zone -Expanding concourse size -Relocated ticket office -Tunnel corner redevelopment with hotel/offices/museum development -Central players tunnel added following digging under the main stand -Improved fan access (bridges/subways added to the main roundabout) -New slip road onto A50 - Better car/bus management -Offsite/nearby “community stadium” for academy & women’s games What possible demand do you think there would be for a hotel given there is one nearby, occupancy in the city isn’t great and the current hotels hardly make money? And what demand would there be for offices with no facilities nearby? Asylum seekers? |
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Post by Scouse on Apr 4, 2023 10:03:17 GMT
Three possibles re the increase to the original £20m ( other than costs increasing due to inflation , brexit , covid etc ) 1) Theyve widened the list of work 2 ) Issues were found last year during the Ricardo and hospitality suites redevelopments that impact on other parts of the stadium ,future projects 3) After bad PR they kind of committed to sorting out Norton .. ( woman's and occasional academy use ) ..presumably they have a plan a , b and c by now for that that .. plan a being temporary porta cabin type first stage solution .. plan b new permanent dressing rooms etc ..plan c full bells and whistles likely low millions as a minimum perhaps to include the leasehold .. has any work started there or has anyone seen any planning applications being put in Anything other than standard pitch work , ( that can still cost a hell of a lot ) or at Clayton will likely be very careful PR managed to help build the general feel good factor If they're serious about the women's team the first thing they need to do is find a new home. They can spend on it whatever they want but it'll always be in Smallthorne, hardly known for its links to Stoke City is it. Indeed , presumably the question of relocating may be considered as part of the long term plans .. especially if they have serious ( costly ) mid to long term plans on and off the pitch .. which is why I say plan a would be a temporary fix to buy time ..but not really the long term one Finding a new ( ground share ) home and fitting our fixtures in with an existing owner / tenant fixtures is easier said than done of course I’ll be honest I’m not into woman’s football ..in my view they should stand alone with if necessary government funding to help grow the sport especially at grass roots, but appreciate others are very interested of which some believe they should come under the umbrella of existing men’s club Edit to add .. it’s not women's football par se I’m against or anything personal .. I’d have the same views if we started up a men’s handball , basketball or any other sport under the umbrella of the club similar to happens in some countries , …we struggle as it is to focus on the task , without diverting time. , resources or focus into other avenues .. the weomens side now comes under the umbrella of the TD I believe .. that means if he’s fair to them diverting some of his time and attention away from where IMO all his time & focus should be |
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 4, 2023 10:15:14 GMT
Knock down the Boothen End and build an elite catering school there.
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Apr 4, 2023 10:31:48 GMT
A drive through Greggs at the entrance to the South car park would be magnificent.
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