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Post by greystokie on Mar 15, 2023 12:37:52 GMT
Clucas gets loads of stick but at his best he is a more than useful Championship squad member. Tymon always seems a bit on the periphery of things but again developed and used to his maximum potential he is a good player at this level. In a successful team environment both could be well worth having around and all in all if they are the biggest problems we have things are certainly looking up. The problem though, Wuzza, is that you wait a very long time before you see the best of Clucas and it doesn't last when it does appear. I don't think he wants to be here, either.
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Post by tqstokie on Mar 15, 2023 12:42:48 GMT
Maybe AN has finally realised Clucas is a reliability. What is your definition of a reliability? Did you mean liability?
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Post by wuzza on Mar 15, 2023 12:52:54 GMT
Clucas gets loads of stick but at his best he is a more than useful Championship squad member. Tymon always seems a bit on the periphery of things but again developed and used to his maximum potential he is a good player at this level. In a successful team environment both could be well worth having around and all in all if they are the biggest problems we have things are certainly looking up. The problem though, Wuzza, is that you wait a very long time before you see the best of Clucas and it doesn't last when it does appear. I don't think he wants to be here, either. I just think that at times he has shown himself capable of ranking as one of the better performers all be it in a generally poor set up. In an improving side he has qualities that could show further. If he isn’t up for it then so be it but like a couple more players I feel he is potentially of value within a team that is functioning better around him. As with so many SCFC players of recent years we have only seen glimpses of what they are capable of.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2023 12:55:30 GMT
Clucas just has to go this summer.
Tymon would be a useful squad player.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 15, 2023 13:03:44 GMT
Clucas gets loads of stick but at his best he is a more than useful Championship squad member. Tymon always seems a bit on the periphery of things but again developed and used to his maximum potential he is a good player at this level. In a successful team environment both could be well worth having around and all in all if they are the biggest problems we have things are certainly looking up. If we are honest, he has had one good season since we signed him. The rest of the time he has either been injured or, when fit, he has rarely shown that he is worth a starting place. I am firmly in the camp which believes he should leave thus freeing up his (significant) wage to bring in a replacement more suited to AN's current preferred formation.
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Post by wuzza on Mar 15, 2023 13:09:01 GMT
Clucas gets loads of stick but at his best he is a more than useful Championship squad member. Tymon always seems a bit on the periphery of things but again developed and used to his maximum potential he is a good player at this level. In a successful team environment both could be well worth having around and all in all if they are the biggest problems we have things are certainly looking up. If we are honest, he has had one good season since we signed him. The rest of the time he has either been injured or, when fit, he has rarely shown that he is worth a starting place. I am firmly in the camp which believes he should leave thus freeing up his wage to bring in a replacement more suited to AN's current preferred formation. I suppose that’s the crux of it - he has got it in him to be useful but the decision will be AN’s as to whether he feels he can develop it and adapt it.
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Post by tqstokie on Mar 15, 2023 13:12:58 GMT
Tymon is only useful as a left winger. He is not a full back nor a wing back. Defensively he is not anywhere near good enough. Never closes his man down or puts him into touch.
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Post by pushon on Mar 15, 2023 16:24:15 GMT
Wuzza, Clucas is out of contract at the end of the season. There's no chance he'll be here thereafter. Hip Hip....🥳
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 15, 2023 16:29:26 GMT
Tymon is only useful as a left winger. He is not a full back nor a wing back. Defensively he is not anywhere near good enough. Never closes his man down or puts him into touch. He's just not a left winger!
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Post by a on Mar 15, 2023 16:31:30 GMT
He sounded like he regretted their inclusion after last week so hopefully he’s bombed clucas out, and sorry Tymon but you need to go too, now we’ve decided in a back four.
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Post by georgeberrysafro on Mar 15, 2023 16:39:45 GMT
He sounded like he regretted their inclusion after last week so hopefully he’s bombed clucas out, and sorry Tymon but you need to go too, now we’ve decided in a back four. We have 3 loans in the back four so it makes no sense whatsoever to let Tymon go. Realistically, we'll only be able to sign Sterling (that's a maybe) and with Hoever & Tuanzebe we'd have to hope we can loan them again but I can't see it. Tymon deservers to stay, fully fit and in form he's an excellent championship footballer.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 15, 2023 16:40:15 GMT
Maybe AN has finally realised Clucas is a reliability. What is your definition of a reliability? Did you mean liability? My mistake, I meant liability.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Mar 15, 2023 17:45:04 GMT
Would be good if we could get rid of both of them.
Tymon would be half decent if he had some pace but for a wide player I think he’s too slow which means he has to cut in on his nonexistent right foot.
Less said about clucas the better
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Post by chiswickpotter on Mar 15, 2023 18:01:33 GMT
‘Is more than capable of playing several different positions’. Citation needed… I'd also like to know these several positions he can play? Certainly left wing back and left of a 3 in midfield. And left back if the other 3 in a back four are more defensive
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Post by a on Mar 15, 2023 22:10:25 GMT
He sounded like he regretted their inclusion after last week so hopefully he’s bombed clucas out, and sorry Tymon but you need to go too, now we’ve decided in a back four. We have 3 loans in the back four so it makes no sense whatsoever to let Tymon go. Realistically, we'll only be able to sign Sterling (that's a maybe) and with Hoever & Tuanzebe we'd have to hope we can loan them again but I can't see it. Tymon deservers to stay, fully fit and in form he's an excellent championship footballer. I really don’t like him in a flat back four, so seeing as that’s what we’re playing, he can go for me, bring in a few million and reinvest. The loan situation is a pain as they’re playing so well, we’ll really miss them at this rate 😂
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 15, 2023 22:14:54 GMT
Is it a new detective series??
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Post by march4 on Mar 15, 2023 22:19:10 GMT
Can’t see either being at the club next season. Same with Powell and Baker.
A new group have taken over the team.
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 15, 2023 22:28:41 GMT
Can’t see either being at the club next season. Same with Powell and Baker. A new group have taken over the team. The new group also won't be here next season though
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Mar 15, 2023 22:40:32 GMT
I'd also like to know these several positions he can play? Certainly left wing back and left of a 3 in midfield. And left back if the other 3 in a back four are more defensive The only position he's half decent in is as a left wing back though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2023 22:45:34 GMT
Anyone still think we’ll get 20m for Tymon? 🤣🤣
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 15, 2023 23:01:46 GMT
I think it’s a bit too much of a coincidence that two of the subs from the Blackburn game weren’t involved at all last night. You could tell Neil was seething inside about the “efforts” of those he brought on against Blackburn. If this is the case, and I hope beyond hope it is, then I will really start to warm to Alex Neil. It would be great if Blackburn is the last we see if either of them.
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Mar 15, 2023 23:02:59 GMT
I can’t believe people are writing off Tymon. He’s been largely excellent over the last year and a half, has had no luck with injuries this year after being made to play through pain, is more than capable of playing several different positions, is probably the best crosser at the club, and unlike any other senior full back currently at the club is contracted to be here next season! I think 'excellent' is pushing it. I'd say he's been a rare sweetcorn, in a pile of turd.
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Post by thepottypotter on Mar 15, 2023 23:31:54 GMT
2 x Taxis.
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Post by thepottypotter on Mar 15, 2023 23:35:28 GMT
Maybe AN has finally realised Clucas is a reliability. What is your definition of a reliability? Did you mean liability? Clucas is a reliable liability
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Post by elystokie on Mar 15, 2023 23:45:08 GMT
What is your definition of a reliability? Did you mean liability? Clucas is a reliable liability You can rely on him to hide behind the nearest opposition player.
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Post by nonameface on Mar 16, 2023 0:08:22 GMT
Anyone still think we’ll get 20m for Tymon? 🤣🤣 £6m-7m in the right market should be achievable. But if we got rid of him and it meant we could get one of Tuanzebe, Pearson, Sarkic, smallbone, Sterling, Hoever then it would improve the squad next season for the style we want to play
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 16, 2023 1:16:12 GMT
Anyone still think we’ll get 20m for Tymon? 🤣🤣 £6m-7m in the right market should be achievable. But if we got rid of him and it meant we could get one of Tuanzebe, Pearson, Sarkic, smallbone, Sterling, Hoever then it would improve the squad next season for the style we want to play I'd be amazed if we got much more than £3m for him
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 16, 2023 1:41:16 GMT
Clucas gets loads of stick but at his best he is a more than useful Championship squad member. Tymon always seems a bit on the periphery of things but again developed and used to his maximum potential he is a good player at this level. In a successful team environment both could be well worth having around and all in all if they are the biggest problems we have things are certainly looking up. If we are honest, he has had one good season since we signed him. The rest of the time he has either been injured or, when fit, he has rarely shown that he is worth a starting place. I am firmly in the camp which believes he should leave thus freeing up his (significant) wage to bring in a replacement more suited to AN's current preferred formation.
Indeed John.
When you think how much we have paid him over the years, pound for pound, he has been a dreadful signing.
I have a close friend who is a Swansea season ticket holder and when we signed him, he said that the Swansea fans hated him because he was such a shirker, a player who would go missing for large parts of the game because he simply couldn't apply himself.
As it turns out, I think they were right.
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 16, 2023 6:05:06 GMT
Bizarre that we tried to build our formation and tactical approach around the one wing back we had in the squad. You could maybe understand it if it was Reece James or Trent Alexander Arnold...but it was Josh Tymon, at best a 7/10 player at this level.
Now that Neil has finally seen the light and gone to 4 at the back, I don't see where Tymon fits in. A team playing wing backs might find him useful. He might even get a lower Premier League gig as a back up. Anything over £2m and I'd think about it.
I'm amazed Clucas has seen as much game time as he has this season. He looks like he can't be arsed because, well, he can't be arsed. He'll probably get a contract somewhere in League One or Two and supporters there will get excited based on him having a recognisable name. However, he will inevitably not be arsed wherever he goes and end up out of the team within a couple of months.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 16, 2023 9:23:15 GMT
Anyone still think we’ll get 20m for Tymon? 🤣🤣 £6m-7m in the right market should be achievable. But if we got rid of him and it meant we could get one of Tuanzebe, Pearson, Sarkic, smallbone, Sterling, Hoever then it would improve the squad next season for the style we want to play 2-3m surely? I mean it depends on who wants him I guess. As a back 4 enthusiast getting rid of him just makes sense. You get rid of a player that doesn't really suit the main formation you play, should be able to get a few million and can sign players that do suit it. I'm just not convinced of the market he'll have. The best hope is that some of the hype from last summer is still there?
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