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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 31, 2022 15:50:42 GMT
For me the match day experience could be improved with a bit of imagination. The concourse is like a disused milking parlour and the food and beverages on offer are appalling.
A few Stoke city themed murals and player portraits would liven the place up a bit, a bit of attention to the quality and variety of food on offer (a decent coffee) would be nice.
A few big screen in the concourse rather than those pokey little screens.
A craft beer area. etc etc
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Post by silsdenstokie on Dec 31, 2022 15:53:34 GMT
Didn't renew this season as going to the games was becoming a chore done out of force of habit and blind loyalty. Hated every minute last night and couldn't wait to get home (mate was driving so no pubs and a few others sat it out). Won't be rushing back either, where else would you hand over money to do something you didn't enjoy? If we're on TV I'm probably looking at my phone most of the match and sometimes I don't even bother to put the outdated Radio Stoke coverage on (like the club, needs dragging into the modern day). I used to be in a mood for hours if we lost, now it's a shrug of the shoulders , a roll of the eyes, a sarcastic post on here and I'm over it. Stoke just aren't the be all and end all these days, not sure if that's age or the last 7 years kicking it out of me. Your last paragraph is where Im at pal. Ive become immune to it and its not fucking my weekend up anymore. A real shame
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2022 15:55:34 GMT
For me the match day experience could be improved with a bit of imagination. The concourse is like a disused milking parlour and the food and beverages on offer are appalling. A few Stoke city themed murals and player portraits would liven the place up a bit, a bit of attention to the quality and variety of food on offer (a decent coffee) would be nice. A few big screen in the concourse rather than those pokey little screens. A craft beer area. etc etc Agreed, there seems to be a lack of imagination in every aspect of the football club.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 31, 2022 15:56:41 GMT
I will never lose my love for Stoke but this is based on my memories of teams past which included Ritchie, Greenhoff, Sir Stan, Dobing, Sammy Mac, Mudie and Denis Viollet etc. This bunch of useless gits today will be forgotten by the end of the season!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 31, 2022 15:57:32 GMT
They have but has it happened after having 10 seasons in the PL and with billionaire owners? I think that matters. There is no good reason why it has happened bar their incompetence. Three teams have to go down every year. Even when we were good in the Premier League, we were not special. We were just another small club with limited expansion capacity making ends meet. Since going down however, the decision making for hiring managers has been fairly awful. So has our new recruitment strategy of hiring injured players and wondering why they are always injured. Our relegation was a result of terrible decisions made just as much as the years since have been, it wasn’t just ‘our turn’, we made some calamitous decisions that sunk us.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Dec 31, 2022 15:58:23 GMT
Good Lord reading this thread is far more depressing than watching Stoke City.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 31, 2022 16:05:07 GMT
Good Lord reading this thread is far more depressing than watching Stoke City. No it's where we are at!
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 31, 2022 16:09:46 GMT
Always remember my dad and uncle falling out of love with Stoke. There wasn’t anyone thing, it’s just that they stopped being bothered by Stoke. Yet they used to be so enthusiastic and emotional before, during and after a game. Once they had lost that love I only ever saw those emotions in things that mattered. I wondered, how could Stoke not matter? Now I know and am going through the same transition. I’m still stuck in anger mode because of the clowns we’ve got on the pitch and running the club, but I hope to reach acceptance stage soon and no longer be bothered by them.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 31, 2022 16:21:34 GMT
Good Lord reading this thread is far more depressing than watching Stoke City. At least this thread is free!
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Post by spiderpuss on Dec 31, 2022 16:26:51 GMT
For me a lot of it is as a result of Covid where we were reduced to watching MON's team go through the motions on a laptop/device etc. As you weren't meeting up with the usual gang, your mind started to wander and think - is there something better I could be doing? The answer sadly for SCFC was a resounding yes. There was plenty of better things to be doing and more enjoyable things given the turgid tripe we were being proffered. Things have not improved and our football is as missable as it is forgettable. Away to WBA and home to Watford spring to mind as two games where I've thought, nah I can't be bothered with this anymore. Stoke for me now is just to meet up with chums - who are actually still turning up and over the years just one has stopped going altogether. Away days are again that a day where you can be with friends, the football is pretty much getting immaterial and pointless. Our team has no "heroes" or people we chant their name endlessly. I mean 1/2 of it is made up of loan signings which won't be here come May. There no bond with players or manager and it's festering situation of meh-ness. It's a hard situation to retrieve, unlike the 90s of Joe Jordan football for example we've plenty more activities being thrown at us. Travel is generally cheaper as are many past-times, thanks to the Internet. Once the decision to reduce SCFC viewing then like I said it's a hard thing to retrieve. There needs to be some good signings and a huge up-tick in our fortunes in the next few months before ST renewal. Otherwise people are just going to view watching Stoke as a thing they don't really need to be investing huge amount of time on and spend time on other activities instead.
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Post by harryh157 on Dec 31, 2022 16:47:30 GMT
I will never lose my love for Stoke but this is based on my memories of teams past which included Ritchie, Greenhoff, Sir Stan, Dobing, Sammy Mac, Mudie and Denis Viollet etc. This bunch of useless gits today will be forgotten by the end of the season! Nail on head! I've seen us play much worse than this but the players seemed to care. With a couple of exceptions we have a team full of mediocre players who think they are world beaters. I can accept losing....seen plenty of it over the last 40 years but at least have a go EVERY minute of EVERY game; you don't know you might start winning a few. And if you don't then you'll not get criticism from me
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Post by thevoid on Dec 31, 2022 16:51:56 GMT
For me a lot of it is as a result of Covid where we were reduced to watching MON's team go through the motions on a laptop/device etc. As you weren't meeting up with the usual gang, your mind started to wander and think - is there something better I could be doing? The answer sadly for SCFC was a resounding yes. There was plenty of better things to be doing and more enjoyable things given the turgid tripe we were being proffered. Things have not improved and our football is as missable as it is forgettable. Away to WBA and home to Watford spring to mind as two games where I've thought, nah I can't be bothered with this anymore. Stoke for me now is just to meet up with chums - who are actually still turning up and over the years just one has stopped going altogether. Away days are again that a day where you can be with friends, the football is pretty much getting immaterial and pointless. Our team has no "heroes" or people we chant their name endlessly. I mean 1/2 of it is made up of loan signings which won't be here come May. There no bond with players or manager and it's festering situation of meh-ness. It's a hard situation to retrieve, unlike the 90s of Joe Jordan football for example we've plenty more activities being thrown at us. Travel is generally cheaper as are many past-times, thanks to the Internet. Once the decision to reduce SCFC viewing then like I said it's a hard thing to retrieve. There needs to be some good signings and a huge up-tick in our fortunes in the next few months before ST renewal. Otherwise people are just going to view watching Stoke as a thing they don't really need to be investing huge amount of time on and spend time on other activities instead. Excellent post. Just to add, I don't recognise some of our own players. I wouldn't recognise Ben (and I genuinely had to Google him for his first name) Wilmott if he stood up in my soup.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 31, 2022 16:52:02 GMT
They have but has it happened after having 10 seasons in the PL and with billionaire owners? I think that matters. There is no good reason why it has happened bar their incompetence. Three teams have to go down every year. Even when we were good in the Premier League, we were not special. We were just another small club with limited expansion capacity making ends meet. Since going down however, the decision making for hiring managers has been fairly awful. So has our new recruitment strategy of hiring injured players and wondering why they are always injured. I can’t agree, we had established ourselves up there and with the owners should have had the money to stay up there. The poor decision making started way before going down. Sacking Hughes a season too late, appointing Lambert. The two biggest decisions as to why we are here now.
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Post by palerider on Dec 31, 2022 16:52:55 GMT
I've been a supporter for 20 years and I genuinely can't remember a time I've been less invested and less motivated to watch and enjoy stoke. From looking forward to hearing the crowd roar and see the players fight for every challenge and point to seeing absolute dross every week now. Yes people can point out I'm not a real fan if I don't support the team through the bad times but I've never felt less interested. I can't justify spending hard earned money watching stoke "perform" this season. My questions are does anyone feel like this is the worst it has been in terms of inspiration and interest? Is there anything fans can do and if not what needs changing? I want to love watching stoke again even if the football is not superb I want to see fight at the very least and some hope that one day we might challenge for promotion again. THIs ...
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Post by potterpaul on Dec 31, 2022 16:57:39 GMT
It does beg the question
Does anyone, at the club, care or have an ounce of ambition to succeed?
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Post by palerider on Dec 31, 2022 16:57:59 GMT
By this time next year we should be challenging at the right end of the table. Ft And how long have we been saying that for. This time next year we’ll be millionaires Rodney..."
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Post by uknorse on Dec 31, 2022 17:07:09 GMT
I've been a supporter for 20 years and I genuinely can't remember a time I've been less invested and less motivated to watch and enjoy stoke. From looking forward to hearing the crowd roar and see the players fight for every challenge and point to seeing absolute dross every week now. Yes people can point out I'm not a real fan if I don't support the team through the bad times but I've never felt less interested. I can't justify spending hard earned money watching stoke "perform" this season. My questions are does anyone feel like this is the worst it has been in terms of inspiration and interest? Is there anything fans can do and if not what needs changing? I want to love watching stoke again even if the football is not superb I want to see fight at the very least and some hope that one day we might challenge for promotion again. As has been said somewhere further up the thread, we have been worse than this, those dark days under Mills, ball, etc, in the bottom half of the 3rd division ( as it was then ).. But the difference for me is simple, the players back then weren't very good, ( not there fault, it's what our budget allowed) But they were all professional, and gave 100%, no moping about, flailing arms, going through the motions without any real conviction, they were good honest... albeit limited ability wise....pro's. From what I see in today's squad, is some players with plenty of ability, but simply choose not to put a real shift it, they just go throught the motions and point the finger at someone else....nobody seems to take responsibility, nobody seems to be a leader... they're all hiding in plain site.... and the comment about the whole match day experience being 20 years out of date, is spot on, the whole stadium is sterile, it has barely changed since the year it opened.....all football clubs exploit their support, its the one constant they can bank on, the supporters turn up, regardless of how poor the team is, but we seem to have a real issue with head in the sand at stoke, I do think the manager needs a pre season, and a couple of transfer windows to trim the garbage from the squad we've accumulated in the last few yrs..... but the entire club needs a fkn kick up the arse from top bottom this summer for me, this current apathy of supporters who have followed us through shit and shitter, the effect of the pandemic, and now the fact you can watch the match at home on a firestick, should be a very worrying thing for our board..
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Post by callas12 on Dec 31, 2022 17:09:17 GMT
Hate to say this but we've sleep walked into becoming something alot of us once feared when the famous quote of 'Be Careful What You Wish For' saying was frequently said on here...
With quite legitimate fear of the direction we're heading in right now, we have become Charlton Athletic..
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 31, 2022 17:20:07 GMT
Maybe it is an age thing wuzza, I don't really know??? What I do know is that, if the game hadn't changed so much, diving, cheating, feigning injuries, fouls for the slightest contact, VAR, virtue signalling, obnoxious overpaid players, constant arse-licking from commentators, everything that's just wrong with football now, I think I'd still be enthusiastic about the game, but I find it joyless tedious dross now!!! Put it this way - I never watch Match of the Day but I quite regularly tune into The Big Match Revisited 🤔 Same, I enjoy the Big Match Revisited myself!!! 👍🏼
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Post by sportsman on Dec 31, 2022 17:25:27 GMT
I'd just love see us attempt a light show with our floodlights. You just know the power would trio and be put in darkness.
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Post by banksy1art on Dec 31, 2022 17:26:05 GMT
It’s going to be even sweeter when we get promoted in a year or two. hopefully most of you won’t have a ticket to see it
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 31, 2022 17:28:29 GMT
It’s going to be even sweeter when we get promoted in a year or two. hopefully most of you won’t have a ticket to see it What an odd way to look at it. People that clearly care being honest and you act like that. Clueless.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 31, 2022 17:36:12 GMT
It’s going to be even sweeter when we get promoted in a year or two. hopefully most of you won’t have a ticket to see it What an odd way to look at it. People that clearly care being honest and you act like that. Clueless. What do you mean by being honest? If it's that they can't afford to go then fair enough. If it's that they can't be arsed then tuff titties
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Post by generationex on Dec 31, 2022 17:42:31 GMT
For me the match day experience could be improved with a bit of imagination. The concourse is like a disused milking parlour and the food and beverages on offer are appalling. A few Stoke city themed murals and player portraits would liven the place up a bit, a bit of attention to the quality and variety of food on offer (a decent coffee) would be nice. A few big screen in the concourse rather than those pokey little screens. A craft beer area. etc etc I was in the new corner last night for the first time - they’ve done a much better job than the rest of the ground : murals, signage, in/out gates for food and drink, both served at one station. They can replicate that around the Boothen and blocks 28- 40. And get a lit-up lettering ‘Stoke City Football Club’ sign on the posh side of the stadium for Christ’s sake - even the warehouses surrounding the ground have ‘em. Why have we got a bit of painted 1970’s ply-wood still?!! Drives me mental, it’s so amateurish and costs next to nowt.
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Post by callas12 on Dec 31, 2022 17:55:32 GMT
What an odd way to look at it. People that clearly care being honest and you act like that. Clueless. What do you mean by being honest? If it's that they can't afford to go then fair enough. If it's that they can't be arsed then tuff titties I took it as being honest regarding people expressing their honest opinions on where our club is currently at
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Post by banksy1art on Dec 31, 2022 18:12:15 GMT
For me the match day experience could be improved with a bit of imagination. The concourse is like a disused milking parlour and the food and beverages on offer are appalling. A few Stoke city themed murals and player portraits would liven the place up a bit, a bit of attention to the quality and variety of food on offer (a decent coffee) would be nice. A few big screen in the concourse rather than those pokey little screens. A craft beer area. etc etc I was in the new corner last night for the first time - they’ve done a much better job than the rest of the ground : murals, signage, in/out gates for food and drink, both served at one station. They can replicate that around the Boothen and blocks 28- 40. And get a lit-up lettering ‘Stoke City Football Club’ sign on the posh side of the stadium for Christ’s sake - even the warehouses surrounding the ground have ‘em. Why have we got a bit of painted 1970’s ply-wood still?!! Drives me mental, it’s so amateurish and costs next to nowt. Spot on, just look at Burnley's ground now, all the signs are lit up showing the lineups, pop ups of old and new badges and ‘Come on burnley’ , ‘GOAL!!!’ When they score. We could do similar in between the two Tiers
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2022 18:37:40 GMT
Knock down the ground, build a good stadium near Hanley, make it a good experience, use that bet365 money to cheer everyone up.
The club as it is is just not appealing. The match day experience is crap.
The crap football on the pitch isn't even the biggest problem with this club
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Post by independent on Dec 31, 2022 19:33:49 GMT
I understand everyone is pissed off but our purgatory should be over in June. Then we will be able to invest in the team again. AN needs a chance to get his own side together. For the last 3 years we have been costcutting and trying to replace expensive players with freebies and loans. I thought that when the MON Out mob got their wish that the constant moaning would stop.I don't know whether people expect miracles or whether people just want to moan. Give the man a chance. He is doing his best.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 31, 2022 19:40:17 GMT
It’s going to be even sweeter when we get promoted in a year or two. hopefully most of you won’t have a ticket to see it You were rocking back and forth when you typed that presumably?
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Post by prudhoesnose on Dec 31, 2022 20:07:25 GMT
Honestly, I get annoyed when Stoke have a night game live on Sky. I’d rather watch one of my shows.
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