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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 10, 2022 18:22:22 GMT
For me the substitution of the captain today was justified because his form this season has been very poor including today for me.
I can see him not getting picked in the near future if his poor form continues.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 10, 2022 18:26:30 GMT
Was thinking exactly the same.
Think he'll be on the bench for a while injuries permitting.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2022 18:26:31 GMT
There’s no way he should have been subbed ahead Smallbone.
Baker didn’t play well but that was some awful management.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 10, 2022 18:32:02 GMT
Tymon is getting worse, Baker is getting worse, Brown is being hardly used and ditto Powell in-between injuries. When he is used it's either as an 8 or a target man.
Four players that were mainstays under the last manager and four that were offering so much to the team.
This manager is paid handsomely to improve the team and kick them on. He's systematically making players worse.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 10, 2022 18:33:19 GMT
There’s no way he should have been subbed ahead Smallbone. Baker didn’t play well but that was some awful management. What a mess we are in - a debate on who was worst Neither are good enough for the Championship - they are both very poor |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2022 18:34:22 GMT
Tymon is getting worse, Baker is getting worse, Brown is being hardly used and ditto Powell in-between injuries. When he is used it's either as an 8 or a target man. Four players that were mainstays under the last manager and four that were offering so much to the team. This manager is paid handsomely to improve the team and kick them on. He's systematically making players worse. Brown has been dogshit this season when he’s been used. He was a disgrace today with his touch. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2022 18:38:08 GMT
Tymon is getting worse, Baker is getting worse, Brown is being hardly used and ditto Powell in-between injuries. When he is used it's either as an 8 or a target man. Four players that were mainstays under the last manager and four that were offering so much to the team. This manager is paid handsomely to improve the team and kick them on. He's systematically making players worse. Absolutely but some still in denial and blaming the previous manages 15 odd games later |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 10, 2022 18:38:42 GMT
Tymon is getting worse, Baker is getting worse, Brown is being hardly used and ditto Powell in-between injuries. When he is used it's either as an 8 or a target man. Four players that were mainstays under the last manager and four that were offering so much to the team. This manager is paid handsomely to improve the team and kick them on. He's systematically making players worse. As soon as they bought Harris on to run at Tymon it paid dividends and it nearly repeated itself not long after as well.He’s a wing back and will never ever make a decent left back because of his ability to defend |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2022 18:39:11 GMT
Tymon is getting worse, Baker is getting worse, Brown is being hardly used and ditto Powell in-between injuries. When he is used it's either as an 8 or a target man. Four players that were mainstays under the last manager and four that were offering so much to the team. This manager is paid handsomely to improve the team and kick them on. He's systematically making players worse. Absolutely but some still in denial and blaming the previous manages 15 odd games later They were playing shit under him too 😂😂 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2022 18:39:49 GMT
Tymon is getting worse, Baker is getting worse, Brown is being hardly used and ditto Powell in-between injuries. When he is used it's either as an 8 or a target man. Four players that were mainstays under the last manager and four that were offering so much to the team. This manager is paid handsomely to improve the team and kick them on. He's systematically making players worse. As soon as they bought Harris on to run at Tymon it paid dividends and it nearly repeated itself not long after as well.He’s a wing back and will never ever make a decent left back because of his ability to defend Tymon was shit all game. He never got near them in the first half defensively. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 10, 2022 19:01:16 GMT
Tymon is getting worse, Baker is getting worse, Brown is being hardly used and ditto Powell in-between injuries. When he is used it's either as an 8 or a target man. Four players that were mainstays under the last manager and four that were offering so much to the team. This manager is paid handsomely to improve the team and kick them on. He's systematically making players worse. Its a good thing re Brown, the improvement people were raving about is nonexistent. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 10, 2022 19:19:57 GMT
Baker has one primary strength: finding space at the edge of the box to get a shot off.
Problem is, we don’t spend that much time moving the ball around in forward positions.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 10, 2022 19:22:11 GMT
Baker was worse than Smallbone for me
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 10, 2022 19:25:49 GMT
Baker was worse than Smallbone for me He most certainly was mate |
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Post by liathroid on Dec 10, 2022 19:29:06 GMT
For me the substitution of the captain today was justified because his form this season has been very poor including today for me. I can see him not getting picked in the near future if his poor form continues. he has been very poor since the new contract |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 10, 2022 19:33:30 GMT
Tymon is getting worse, Baker is getting worse, Brown is being hardly used and ditto Powell in-between injuries. When he is used it's either as an 8 or a target man. Four players that were mainstays under the last manager and four that were offering so much to the team. This manager is paid handsomely to improve the team and kick them on. He's systematically making players worse. Brown has been dogshit this season when he’s been used. He was a disgrace today with his touch. That may be true but he was still infinitely better than delap , I suspect he’s pretty pissed off at being top scorer and dropped for teachers pet whose truly clueless. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 10, 2022 19:35:27 GMT
As soon as they bought Harris on to run at Tymon it paid dividends and it nearly repeated itself not long after as well.He’s a wing back and will never ever make a decent left back because of his ability to defend Tymon was shit all game. He never got near them in the first half defensively. He's a wank LB |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2022 19:52:39 GMT
Brown has been dogshit this season when he’s been used. He was a disgrace today with his touch. That may be true but he was still infinitely better than delap , I suspect he’s pretty pissed off at being top scorer and dropped for teachers pet whose truly clueless. No he wasn’t. Brown had two things to do all game and fucked them both up. He’s toss. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 10, 2022 19:54:15 GMT
That may be true but he was still infinitely better than delap , I suspect he’s pretty pissed off at being top scorer and dropped for teachers pet whose truly clueless. No he wasn’t. Brown had two things to do all game and fucked them both up. He’s toss. I’m no brown advocate but he’s better than the utterly clueless delap his whole game is abject or worse |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 10, 2022 19:55:16 GMT
That may be true but he was still infinitely better than delap , I suspect he’s pretty pissed off at being top scorer and dropped for teachers pet whose truly clueless. No he wasn’t. Brown had two things to do all game and fucked them both up. He’s toss. Delap was very very poor, try’s to run through players, can’t head the ball and his decision making is shocking. Bit unfair singling out a crap Brown (who’s scored goals last season) to a crap Delap |
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Post by callas12 on Dec 10, 2022 19:55:21 GMT
Agree that Baker substitution was necessary today but I always question a managers decision to sub their teams captain unless showing signs of injury. & if things are that bad perhaps the captaincy situation/selection needs addressing.
I remember that Gerrard kept hooking Villa captain John McGinn at Villa during the match due to poor form and that didn't end well for SG.
Not saying a player deserves or has any right to stay on the pitch if playing poorly but there's something seriously wrong & concerning if you're captain and supposed leader, the inspirational one isn't delivering. To me it doesn't bode well & sends out the wrong signal to the other players to be substituting your captain.
Can't say I ever recall the likes of Ryan Shawcross, Vince Overson, George Berry etc being subbed for playing poorly.
Would like to hope it was a one off today and he was feeling unwell or something, but as has been eluded to, sadly today's poor performance doesn't appear to be a one off.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 10, 2022 19:56:51 GMT
There’s no way he should have been subbed ahead Smallbone. Baker didn’t play well but that was some awful management. Smallbone was by far our best midfielder again!  |
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Post by iamstokie on Dec 10, 2022 19:57:26 GMT
Tymon is getting worse, Baker is getting worse, Brown is being hardly used and ditto Powell in-between injuries. When he is used it's either as an 8 or a target man. Four players that were mainstays under the last manager and four that were offering so much to the team. This manager is paid handsomely to improve the team and kick them on. He's systematically making players worse. The players don’t like the manager it’s obvious to see |
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 10, 2022 19:58:05 GMT
Tymon is getting worse, Baker is getting worse, Brown is being hardly used and ditto Powell in-between injuries. When he is used it's either as an 8 or a target man. Four players that were mainstays under the last manager and four that were offering so much to the team. This manager is paid handsomely to improve the team and kick them on. He's systematically making players worse. Tymon is not a fullback in a flat four!  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2022 20:00:50 GMT
There’s no way he should have been subbed ahead Smallbone. Baker didn’t play well but that was some awful management. Smallbone was by far our best midfielder again! He was hopeless. Total gutless coward shirking everything that came his way. |
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Post by xnfourt on Dec 10, 2022 20:00:58 GMT
Sorry..Barker is Shit..that's why he has never made it I'm Football
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Post by xnfourt on Dec 10, 2022 20:01:27 GMT
Sorry..Barker is Shit..that's why he has never made it in Football |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2022 20:02:18 GMT
Tymon is getting worse, Baker is getting worse, Brown is being hardly used and ditto Powell in-between injuries. When he is used it's either as an 8 or a target man. Four players that were mainstays under the last manager and four that were offering so much to the team. This manager is paid handsomely to improve the team and kick them on. He's systematically making players worse. The players don’t like the manager it’s obvious to see Hahahaha that’s nonsense. Brown has just been awful because he’s always been awful. Baker started shit this season and it’s carried on. Tymon has never been able to play left back. I’d sell him. And been saying that for ages. You shouldn’t have to build a system around him like we have to. He’s not good enough. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 10, 2022 20:02:55 GMT
Smallbone was by far our best midfielder again! He was hopeless. Total gutless coward shirking everything that came his way. No, he wasn't! Your opinion is biased.  |
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Post by Davef on Dec 10, 2022 20:03:20 GMT
FFS, this thread is about Lewis Baker, not Jacob Brown, Will Smallbone or Josh Tymon.
Let's address the issue here. If Baker wasn't injured, then his captaincy has to be brought into question. My view is that the armband should have been given to Harry Souttar as soon as he returned from injury, just as the captaincy was given to Ryan Shawcross when he came back into the team.
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