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Post by adamsson on Dec 10, 2022 20:04:56 GMT
There’s no way he should have been subbed ahead Smallbone. Baker didn’t play well but that was some awful management. Smallbone was by far our best midfielder again! Which is the problem
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Post by pottersrule on Dec 10, 2022 20:06:32 GMT
Tymon is getting worse, Baker is getting worse, Brown is being hardly used and ditto Powell in-between injuries. When he is used it's either as an 8 or a target man. Four players that were mainstays under the last manager and four that were offering so much to the team. This manager is paid handsomely to improve the team and kick them on. He's systematically making players worse. Tymon is a wing back and not a left back,the sooner the manager realises this the better.Fox was a big miss today and I never thought I would say that.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 10, 2022 20:06:33 GMT
FFS, this thread is about Lewis Baker, not Jacob Brown, Will Smallbone or Josh Tymon. Let's address the issue here. If Baker wasn't injured, then his captaincy has to be brought into question. My view is that the armband should have been given to Harry Souttar as soon as he returned from injury, just as the captaincy was given to Ryan Shawcross when he came back into the team. Perhaps they know HS won't be here post January
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2022 20:25:28 GMT
FFS, this thread is about Lewis Baker, not Jacob Brown, Will Smallbone or Josh Tymon. Let's address the issue here. If Baker wasn't injured, then his captaincy has to be brought into question. My view is that the armband should have been given to Harry Souttar as soon as he returned from injury, just as the captaincy was given to Ryan Shawcross when he came back into the team. Souttar should have been given it in the first place but Smallbone is a part of this. There’s no way he should have stayed on the pitch over Baker today. It was awful management.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2022 20:27:22 GMT
He was hopeless. Total gutless coward shirking everything that came his way. No, he wasn't! Your opinion is biased. I could accuse you of it if you genuinely thought he was ok today. He’s about the worst player I’ve had the misfortune of watching regularly. Totally spineless.
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Post by pottersrule on Dec 10, 2022 20:56:42 GMT
As soon as they bought Harris on to run at Tymon it paid dividends and it nearly repeated itself not long after as well.He’s a wing back and will never ever make a decent left back because of his ability to defend Tymon was shit all game. He never got near them in the first half defensively. He isn't a left back and the sooner the manager realises this the better.We missed Fox today.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2022 21:05:48 GMT
What about Neil's future
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 10, 2022 21:07:57 GMT
No, he wasn't! Your opinion is biased. I could accuse you of it if you genuinely thought he was ok today. He’s about the worst player I’ve had the misfortune of watching regularly. Totally spineless. Some people can't see the woods because of the trees, and you're obviously one of them.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 10, 2022 21:48:19 GMT
Smallbone was by far our best midfielder again! He was hopeless. Total gutless coward shirking everything that came his way. And was still the best of a piss poor bunch
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 10, 2022 22:24:06 GMT
Tymon is getting worse, Baker is getting worse, Brown is being hardly used and ditto Powell in-between injuries. When he is used it's either as an 8 or a target man. Four players that were mainstays under the last manager and four that were offering so much to the team. This manager is paid handsomely to improve the team and kick them on. He's systematically making players worse. The players don’t like the manager it’s obvious to see That’s because MON let this group get away with one shite performance after another. If they can’t buck their ideas up for AN then they need to be cleared out sharpish.
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Post by redstriper on Dec 10, 2022 22:53:07 GMT
Baker was our best player last season, he's nowhere near that level this season. So it looks very much like there's an issue between him and the manager.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2022 22:57:32 GMT
The question is....
What the fuck goes on behind the scenes that turns a player like the Baker of last season to the Baker of this season?
It can't be the case that he is a shit footballer because he proved last season that he isn't, so what the fuck is it?
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Post by iamstokie on Dec 10, 2022 23:08:13 GMT
The players don’t like the manager it’s obvious to see Hahahaha that’s nonsense. Brown has just been awful because he’s always been awful. Baker started shit this season and it’s carried on. Tymon has never been able to play left back. I’d sell him. And been saying that for ages. You shouldn’t have to build a system around him like we have to. He’s not good enough. Your one the most clueless fuckwits on here , who gives a shit what you say , no one that’s who
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2022 23:09:59 GMT
Hahahaha that’s nonsense. Brown has just been awful because he’s always been awful. Baker started shit this season and it’s carried on. Tymon has never been able to play left back. I’d sell him. And been saying that for ages. You shouldn’t have to build a system around him like we have to. He’s not good enough. Your one the most clueless fuckwits on here , who gives a shit what you say , no one that’s who Great retort. They don’t like him or play for him despite going a goal down and clawing it back. Good one!
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Post by kustokie on Dec 10, 2022 23:14:33 GMT
I can’t name one player who is better under Neill compared with his predecessor. They have all taken a step backwards individually and collectively. I have no idea what they worked on for the past four weeks other than a sun ran, because we were no fitter and looked like a bunch kids that showed up for a kick about in the park.
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Post by kustokie on Dec 10, 2022 23:17:02 GMT
Your one the most clueless fuckwits on here , who gives a shit what you say , no one that’s who Great retort. They don’t like him or play for him despite going a goal down and clawing it back. Good one! He’s hardly played this season despite being last season’s top scorer and when he has played it’s been mostly out of position. The previous managers were not great but this one is clueless. Sunderland haven’t missed a beat since he left.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2022 23:19:18 GMT
Great retort. They don’t like him or play for him despite going a goal down and clawing it back. Good one! He’s hardly played this season despite being last season’s top scorer and when he has played it’s been mostly out of position. The previous managers were not great but this one is clueless. Sunderland haven’t missed a beat since he left. Who Brown? He’s played up front or on the right. His position. He looked shit under MON this season and has looked shit under AN. He’s never not looked shit here. So why are we shocked?
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Post by chiprockets on Dec 10, 2022 23:28:25 GMT
As usual the oracle has targeted certain players, so will continue to criticise them regardless of performance to try and reinforce it's original point
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2022 23:31:07 GMT
As usual the oracle has targeted certain players, so will continue to criticise them regardless of performance to try and reinforce it's original point Brown is dogshit. Todays attempts of control sum how he plays up. He runs a lot though. So that’s fine.
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Post by slash on Dec 10, 2022 23:49:53 GMT
captain's armband needs to be given to harry. i'm trying my best to give AN a full transfer window but it's fucking depressing watching us get worse each week. what did they do in dubai? today was shocking, truly shocking.
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 11, 2022 1:14:40 GMT
The question is.... What the fuck goes on behind the scenes that turns a player like the Baker of last season to the Baker of this season? It can't be the case that he is a shit footballer because he proved last season that he isn't, so what the fuck is it? I know some on here have suggested that Baker performed better playing with Allen. I'd like those to explain what it was Allen did that helped Baker express himself more. For me, I notice AN tends to place him behind the CAM. That nullifies what Baker can really do. He's an attacking midfielder and needs to be given licence to roam and get forward more.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 11, 2022 8:34:09 GMT
Like one or two posters have said the captaincy needs giving to Souttar and let’s then see if Baker can try and improve his game. He most certainly wasn’t happy as he walked back to the dugout yesterday and nothing from the manager with him as he got to the dugouts which is unusual for Neil who normally goes to every player substituted
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 11, 2022 8:40:18 GMT
Like one or two posters have said the captaincy needs giving to Souttar and let’s then see if Baker can try and improve his game. He most certainly wasn’t happy as he walked back to the dugout yesterday and nothing from the manager with him as he got to the dugouts which is unusual for Neil who normally goes to every player substituted He shouldn’t have been happy. He should have still been on the pitch. Crazy sub.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 11, 2022 9:26:21 GMT
Baker needs a spell out of the side, he’s been toss for a while now.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 11, 2022 9:43:49 GMT
Baker has been weak for the whole season, also under MON's reign. If he can't improve he wouldn't be a certain starter if I picked the team. We desperately need to bring in a defensive minded midfielder in January, a typical anchor. We also need a new goalkeeper and a mobile targetman up front. Those three players are vital if we are going to turn this season around. Neil also needs to realize that Tymon isn't a fullback with 4 at the back, then he should play Fox every time if possible. Tymon is a wingback and nothing else as I se it. The same could be said about Clarke who isn't bad going forward, but is a liability at the back. Sterling every time for me in a back 4. The problem is that Sterling seems to be injured most of the time though.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 11, 2022 10:52:03 GMT
Is Baker another Clucas?
Clucas when he first came bagged a lot of goals, then turned into a bag of shite.
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 11, 2022 11:31:00 GMT
Baker needs a spell out of the side, he’s been toss for a while now. We need a midfield three or Baker, Thompson and Powell. Baker needs to play as a box to box, but he doesn’t get the chance and seems to sit deeper under AN than MON. We have no one who operates to hold the ball up outside the box, which is the only place he thrives. I’d say that I can’t wait until January, but I just expect more of the same from AN.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 11, 2022 11:35:04 GMT
Baker needs a spell out of the side, he’s been toss for a while now. We need a midfield three or Baker, Thompson and Powell. Baker needs to play as a box to box, but he doesn’t get the chance and seems to sit deeper under AN than MON. We have no one who operates to hold the ball up outside the box, which is the only place he thrives. I’d say that I can’t wait until January, but I just expect more of the same from AN. He’s deep but he’s not offering protection, he doesn’t drive forward, he isn’t incisive. I’d take him out and give Kilkenny a run of games alongside Thompson.
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 11, 2022 11:43:58 GMT
We need a midfield three or Baker, Thompson and Powell. Baker needs to play as a box to box, but he doesn’t get the chance and seems to sit deeper under AN than MON. We have no one who operates to hold the ball up outside the box, which is the only place he thrives. I’d say that I can’t wait until January, but I just expect more of the same from AN. He’s deep but he’s not offering protection, he doesn’t drive forward, he isn’t incisive. I’d take him out and give Kilkenny a run of games alongside Thompson. He isn’t protective, it isn’t his skill. He doesn’t run with the ball, it isn’t his skill. He does well finding space outside of the box, but a) he’s obviously been told to play deeper and b) we never hold the ball up around that area. We have a player who is a standout at shooting from that region, coupled with the fact that goalkeepers in this league are crap. We have a weapon we don’t use. Not sure what Kilkenny will offer? He looks like a taller, more injured Woods to me. Recycles possession nicely into non-dangerous areas.
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Post by loosestools on Dec 11, 2022 12:15:09 GMT
He is being used too deep due to the lack of a proper CDM. Move him to a nr 10 role.
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