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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2022 14:00:14 GMT
Still think their problem will be not controlling games v the better sides. Last 2 big games they went a goal up very early then had no game plan. Certainly got the players. They let Croatia and Italy ease back into those games, allowed Modric to boss the semi final. Certainly got a very good chance. Difficult to argue with that Muff. I just hope that Southgate doesn't go back to the back 3/5 formation, but we all know he will as soon as we are up against a good side. I think It might have to print this off 😉
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 3, 2022 21:53:22 GMT
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Post by lordb on Dec 3, 2022 21:59:41 GMT
Just Phil? On his Todd? Could be tricky
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2022 8:03:23 GMT
Shouldn't even be up for debate. Phil Foden is quite easily our most talented attacking midfielder for years.
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Post by stokienorthants on Dec 4, 2022 8:32:28 GMT
Shouldn't even be up for debate. Phil Foden is quite easily our most talented attacking midfielder for years. Really? 3 goals in 20 appearances suggests otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2022 8:35:25 GMT
Shouldn't even be up for debate. Phil Foden is quite easily our most talented attacking midfielder for years. Really? 3 goals in 20 appearances suggests otherwise. Yep really. He's comfortably the most technically gifted footballer we have. There is a reason why one of the best football managers in the world picks him most weeks.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 4, 2022 9:05:25 GMT
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Dec 4, 2022 9:25:22 GMT
Well he was mint, last time out.
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Post by march4 on Dec 4, 2022 9:41:47 GMT
A tricky game.
Southgate mustn’t make the mistake of playing the woeful trio; Saka, Mount and Stirling.
Their failure to press or track back nearly cost us the game vs USA and would be problematic against another strong and athletic team.
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Post by march4 on Dec 4, 2022 10:13:54 GMT
Not sure if England’s World Cup record on the two main broadcasters has been mentioned.
13% win rate on ITV and 75% win rate on BBC.
We are on ITV today!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 4, 2022 10:57:11 GMT
A tricky game. Southgate mustn’t make the mistake of playing the woeful trio; Saka, Mount and Stirling. Their failure to press or track back nearly cost us the game vs USA and would be problematic against another strong and athletic team. Saka isn’t woeful, that’s awful judgement even for you.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 4, 2022 11:01:07 GMT
Big decision is around walker does he save him for france or give him an hour to give his fitness a top up .
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Post by werrington on Dec 4, 2022 11:40:13 GMT
Given the squad we’ve got in reality there is no “bad team” as every player is exceptional in every position
We can discuss which players/system we’d prefer but to call players in that squad shit or woeful is beyond the pale
I’d have no issue playing Sterling and I’d leave Mount out but if he plays then so be it
Cmon England
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Dec 4, 2022 11:43:26 GMT
You'd love to see a front four of Rashford, Foden and Saka behind Harry Kane but we don't have enough in midfield.
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Post by lordb on Dec 4, 2022 11:57:24 GMT
A tricky game. Southgate mustn’t make the mistake of playing the woeful trio; Saka, Mount and Stirling. Their failure to press or track back nearly cost us the game vs USA and would be problematic against another strong and athletic team. Saka isn’t woeful, that’s awful judgement even for you. Neither is Sterling Mount is not Shyte either but wouldn't play him
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Dec 4, 2022 12:01:11 GMT
Saka lacks the physicality for a Senegal battle for me and if Foden is playing then surely Rashford stays in, which suggests Foden at 10 in front of Rice and Bellingham. One thing is for sure and that’s Southgate needs to react quicker in terms of tweaks and tactics. If it’s not working then bloody change it, we have the squad.
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Post by moon on Dec 4, 2022 12:04:21 GMT
Well he was mint, last time out. He was gash against the USA, superb against Iran though. I think Foden and Rashford did enough to keep their places in the front 3 alongside Kane. Hopefully Mount doesn’t come back into the midfield. Whoever he picks out of Sterling / Saka / Grealish / Foden / Rashford we should have enough up front to get through this one. I’d go with the same team as the last game.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 4, 2022 12:07:29 GMT
Well he was mint, last time out. No he wasn't he might as well as not been on the pitch. For every one good game he has, the next is usually useless, so maybe he's due one again now
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 4, 2022 12:07:53 GMT
Given the squad we’ve got in reality there is no “bad team” as every player is exceptional in every position We can discuss which players/system we’d prefer but to call players in that squad shit or woeful is beyond the pale I’d have no issue playing Sterling and I’d leave Mount out but if he plays then so be it Cmon England I know mate mounts not my first choice but people calling him shite need to get their heads checked when the reality is he would get into most midfields in the world cup. Same goes for sterling.
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Post by RF10 on Dec 4, 2022 12:08:46 GMT
I would play: Pickford Walker, Stones, Maguire, Shaw Rice, Bellingham Foden Saka, Kane, Sterling / Rashford
Or same team as Wales with Saka coming in for Rashford.
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 4, 2022 12:30:11 GMT
Really? 3 goals in 20 appearances suggests otherwise. Yep really. He's comfortably the most technically gifted footballer we have. There is a reason why one of the best football managers in the world picks him most weeks. Because positive discrimination rules state that they have to field a certain number of English players in the squad? 😉 I haven’t really seen much from him in an England shirt to suggest he should start. He definitely has a good first touch, that much is obvious right away. However, he looks very isolated out on the wing. Does he need the fullback to overlap more so he can take a handle of the game? Is he better operating as a 10? We definitely need some partnerships to start forming in the England squad as we head into the knockouts. Edit: I’m not the biggest fan of 433 with Kane. I’d ideally like to see Foden in behind Kane, either forcing Kane to stay up front, or running in on the overlap. He seems smart enough to figure out that someone needs to do he in the box when Kane is 30 yards away from it.
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Post by sticky on Dec 4, 2022 13:10:33 GMT
Definitely got the World Cup bug now, can’t wait for this one! Get the feeling we’ll be put through an emotional rollercoaster but win on penos💪🏻
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2022 13:25:32 GMT
A tricky game. Southgate mustn’t make the mistake of playing the woeful trio; Saka, Mount and Stirling. Their failure to press or track back nearly cost us the game vs USA and would be problematic against another strong and athletic team. Mount for me was the main reason they lost to Italy. MOM incoming if he plays after that comment Nobody seems to give the Polskis a chance .
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Post by moon on Dec 4, 2022 13:33:00 GMT
A tricky game. Southgate mustn’t make the mistake of playing the woeful trio; Saka, Mount and Stirling. Their failure to press or track back nearly cost us the game vs USA and would be problematic against another strong and athletic team. Mount for me was the main reason they lost to Italy. MOM incoming if he plays after that comment Nobody seems to give the Polskis a chance . Poland have been one of the worst teams in the tournament for me, negative dross, far more negative than even the Welsh, they were very fortunate to get through the group stage. I don’t think they’ll get hammered by France but I’d expect a comfortable 2-0 loss to end their tournament.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2022 13:37:07 GMT
Mount for me was the main reason they lost to Italy. MOM incoming if he plays after that comment Nobody seems to give the Polskis a chance . Poland have been one of the worst teams in the tournament for me, negative dross, far more negative than even the Welsh, they were very fortunate to get through the group stage. I don’t think they’ll get hammered by France but I’d expect a comfortable 2-0 loss to end their tournament. To be fair though moon man, is very often a team that looks poor in the group and then plays a bit in the KO stages. Italy didn't win a group game in 82, England only beat Egypt in 1990 in a dour game. Both went on to play some great stuff later on Would be a shock , I agree but this stage is a different proposition than getting through the group. I tend to agree with your score prediction though 😉
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Post by kustokie on Dec 4, 2022 13:45:24 GMT
You'd love to see a front four of Rashford, Foden and Saka behind Harry Kane but we don't have enough in midfield. Time drop Kane/ His contributions have been minimal this World Cup, maybe he’s too cautious of his potential for ankle injuries.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 4, 2022 14:02:53 GMT
You'd love to see a front four of Rashford, Foden and Saka behind Harry Kane but we don't have enough in midfield. Time drop Kane/ His contributions have been minimal this World Cup, maybe he’s too cautious of his potential for ankle injuries. He has three assists and he's been excellent in two of the three games. He's absolutely crucial.
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 4, 2022 14:17:29 GMT
Time drop Kane/ His contributions have been minimal this World Cup, maybe he’s too cautious of his potential for ankle injuries. He has three assists and he's been excellent in two of the three games. He's absolutely crucial. He definitely is crucial, but he needs more support. We need a 10 in that midfield, or we need Bellingham to bust a gut to overlap when Kane drops deep (which is a big part of his game).
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Post by lordb on Dec 4, 2022 14:27:26 GMT
He has three assists and he's been excellent in two of the three games. He's absolutely crucial. He definitely is crucial, but he needs more support. We need a 10 in that midfield, or we need Bellingham to bust a gut to overlap when Kane drops deep (which is a big part of his game). Sterling is best at running beyond Kane
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 4, 2022 14:29:58 GMT
He definitely is crucial, but he needs more support. We need a 10 in that midfield, or we need Bellingham to bust a gut to overlap when Kane drops deep (which is a big part of his game). Sterling is best at running beyond Kane Agreed. I don’t think the attack looked overly fluid versus Wales, and a chunk of that was Rashford. However, it’s a hard call to drop a player with 3 goals in the tournament in 3 games. I still think that they need more support from the centre though.
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