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Post by skeelsy on Nov 22, 2022 12:33:18 GMT
It is a sad day when supporters can no longer enjoy the excitement and euphoria of their team scoring a goal without the fear that some sadistic, party-pooping jobsworth who is viewing a video monitor will somehow contrive to find an obscure, subjective and questionable reason to disallow it.
As a passionate football supporter I welcomed the introduction of VAR as a means for eliminating blatant injustices but the way it is being implemented is killing the game.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 22, 2022 12:38:07 GMT
If it was restricted to clear and obvious mistakes that'd be fine. The marginal offside decisions are ridiculous. There isn't a football fan around who wouldn't accept a "too close to call" decision one way or the other, eg that Ecuador v Qatar goal.
I've no problems with the right calls being made for holding but they must be consistent, and that's the problem. As long as they are consistent, players will stop doing it. And that means having the balls to carry on making these decisions even when it's 0-0 in the final in the 89th minute.
Consistency is key.
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Post by datguy on Nov 22, 2022 12:38:22 GMT
Officiating has been brilliant for me.
Time added on brilliant.
VAR decisions (watched Qatar Ecuador, England Iran and Argies Saudi) have been absolutely fine. Questioned the Ecuador offside and the England penalty in real time. Turns out VAR got it spot on?
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Post by werrington on Nov 22, 2022 12:39:54 GMT
Officiating has been brilliant for me. Time added on brilliant. VAR decisions (watched Qatar Ecuador, England Iran and Argies Saudi) have been absolutely fine. Questioned the Ecuador offside and the England penalty in real time. Turns out VAR got it spot on? Think it’s 83 minutes of time added on in 5 games Wow |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 12:42:01 GMT
By getting decisions right and cutting out the time wasting by adding it back on ?
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Post by datguy on Nov 22, 2022 12:43:27 GMT
Officiating has been brilliant for me. Time added on brilliant. VAR decisions (watched Qatar Ecuador, England Iran and Argies Saudi) have been absolutely fine. Questioned the Ecuador offside and the England penalty in real time. Turns out VAR got it spot on? Think it’s 83 minutes of time added on in 5 games Wow Fantastic isn't it. |
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Post by SCFC92 on Nov 22, 2022 12:44:24 GMT
I hope they bring the time wasting protocols into our game. The whole "game management" piece (basically wasting as much time as possible) is gross, it ruins the spectacle that we pay our hard earned money for.
If the ball is out of play or someone is rolling on the floor, the exact seconds should be added on at the end. Either that or pause the clock.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 22, 2022 12:45:22 GMT
By getting decisions right and cutting out the time wasting by adding it back on ? Exactly it's refreshing to see the timewasting being cracked down on. I think the var works if it's consistent which it definitely was not in the England game yesterday as we had a clear peno not given first half only for them to get one second half for a similar but not as obvious offence. |
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Post by datguy on Nov 22, 2022 12:45:33 GMT
He added about 6 minutes onto the 8 added minutes at the end then.
Rightfully so as well. Saudi player went down in the 92nd minute and got stretchered off the pitch in the 98th...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 12:45:53 GMT
We had a thread recently on how annoying time wasting is and how little time the ball is in play ...great to see they're not standing for it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 12:47:23 GMT
He added about 6 minutes onto the 8 added minutes at the end then. Rightfully so as well. Saudi player went down in the 92nd minute and got stretchered off the pitch in the 98th... Showed the danger of play acting. A player genuinly gets injured making it harder for the officials. |
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Post by datguy on Nov 22, 2022 12:47:46 GMT
Balls probably in play for 55-70 minutes of the 90 on average. About time they dealt with a huge glaring problem in football that time wasting antics pose...
Howe and Pulis shitting 'emselves.
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Post by theonlooker on Nov 22, 2022 12:49:02 GMT
The added time has been a genuinely refreshing change and something we've all been moaning about for many years.
It's really good to see and long may it continue.
Some of the VAR stuff has been dodgy, our game yesterday for example.
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Post by moon on Nov 22, 2022 12:53:59 GMT
Officiating has been brilliant for me. Time added on brilliant. VAR decisions (watched Qatar Ecuador, England Iran and Argies Saudi) have been absolutely fine. Questioned the Ecuador offside and the England penalty in real time. Turns out VAR got it spot on?
No complaints about the time added on, that has been great to see.
Officiating has been average though - especially in the USA vs Wales game last night.
VAR has been very poor in my opinion, it's a matter of time before it comes to a head.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 12:57:24 GMT
Officiating has been brilliant for me. Time added on brilliant. VAR decisions (watched Qatar Ecuador, England Iran and Argies Saudi) have been absolutely fine. Questioned the Ecuador offside and the England penalty in real time. Turns out VAR got it spot on?
No complaints about the time added on, that has been great to see.
Officiating has been average though - especially in the USA vs Wales game last night.
VAR has been very poor in my opinion, it's a matter of time before it comes to a head.
Didn't think the challenge on Bale was a pen myself and anticipated it and went down as he so often does but think the refs been ok. Excellent in the Argie game. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 22, 2022 13:38:01 GMT
How long before we don't have real people playing sports,but computerised games like those horse races you can watch in the bookies?
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Post by Veritas on Nov 22, 2022 14:06:22 GMT
No complaints about the time added on, that has been great to see.
Officiating has been average though - especially in the USA vs Wales game last night. VAR has been very poor in my opinion, it's a matter of time before it comes to a head.
Didn't think the challenge on Bale was a pen myself and anticipated it and went down as he so often does but think the refs been ok. Excellent in the Argie game. I felt it was a penalty, the defender got the ball but he came through Bale to get it which is a foul. Very clever play by Bale to get between defender and the ball and very stupid by the defender to still go for the ball. |
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Post by Goonie on Nov 22, 2022 14:31:25 GMT
I really don't like the animated offside decision, they need to show live footage as it'll feed the conspiracy theorists globally if there's a dodgy decision
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 15:04:26 GMT
Didn't think the challenge on Bale was a pen myself and anticipated it and went down as he so often does but think the refs been ok. Excellent in the Argie game. I felt it was a penalty, the defender got the ball but he came through Bale to get it which is a foul. Very clever play by Bale to get between defender and the ball and very stupid by the defender to still go for the ball. Bale anticipated it and went down and did his usual. Agree he had no need to make the challenge |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 22, 2022 15:35:58 GMT
Goal line technology only, fuck the rest of it off, it’s bollocks.
Goal, let’s pause the mental to see if it’s allowed
Hate it
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 22, 2022 15:43:19 GMT
Didn't think the challenge on Bale was a pen myself and anticipated it and went down as he so often does but think the refs been ok. Excellent in the Argie game. I felt it was a penalty, the defender got the ball but he came through Bale to get it which is a foul. Very clever play by Bale to get between defender and the ball and very stupid by the defender to still go for the ball. Definite penalty. If you watch it in slow motion Bale knows he can get to the ball first, does so with his left foot and the defender clatters into him. In that sense Bale 'bought' the penalty but, as one of the pundits said, stupid challenge because what was Bale going to do moving away from goal? Instead he gets a free shot at goal from 12 yards! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 15:44:17 GMT
Goal line technology only, fuck the rest of it off, it’s bollocks. Goal, let’s pause the mental to see if it’s allowed Hate it Argentina would have won today with no VAR. Would that have been fair? |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 22, 2022 16:04:41 GMT
Goal line technology only, fuck the rest of it off, it’s bollocks. Goal, let’s pause the mental to see if it’s allowed Hate it Argentina would have won today with no VAR. Would that have been fair? Don’t care. The complete bollocks of it for me outweigh any benefits. Let’s have VAR adjudicate on every potential foul as well… It’s bollocks |
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Post by iamstokie on Nov 22, 2022 16:34:37 GMT
The added time has been a genuinely refreshing change and something we've all been moaning about for many years. It's really good to see and long may it continue. Some of the VAR stuff has been dodgy, our game yesterday for example. I can’t see it continuing tbh , the tv companies are furious with it as it’s fucking their schedules up , and unfortunately with the money they pay FIFA I think fifa will back down to them |
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Post by iamstokie on Nov 22, 2022 16:36:44 GMT
No complaints about the time added on, that has been great to see.
Officiating has been average though - especially in the USA vs Wales game last night.
VAR has been very poor in my opinion, it's a matter of time before it comes to a head.
Didn't think the challenge on Bale was a pen myself and anticipated it and went down as he so often does but think the refs been ok. Excellent in the Argie game. Nothing wrong with the players anticipating a foul and going down , it’s been going on for years and part the game |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 16:38:40 GMT
Argentina would have won today with no VAR. Would that have been fair? Don’t care. The complete bollocks of it for me outweigh any benefits. Let’s have VAR adjudicate on every potential foul as well… It’s bollocks Amazing how many still moan re certain decisions in past world Cups but some don't want correct calls, still on the biggest stage |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 16:39:26 GMT
Didn't think the challenge on Bale was a pen myself and anticipated it and went down as he so often does but think the refs been ok. Excellent in the Argie game. Nothing wrong with the players anticipating a foul and going down , it’s been going on for years and part the game Difference between a foul and a challenge and creating a foul Because it's been going on for years doesn't make it right |
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Post by sticky on Nov 22, 2022 16:52:18 GMT
Easy to favour var sitting on your sofa, it’s must be wank if your in the ground not knowing what’s happening..
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 22, 2022 16:58:41 GMT
If it was restricted to clear and obvious mistakes that'd be fine. The marginal offside decisions are ridiculous. There isn't a football fan around who wouldn't accept a "too close to call" decision one way or the other, eg that Ecuador v Qatar goal. I've no problems with the right calls being made for holding but they must be consistent, and that's the problem. As long as they are consistent, players will stop doing it. And that means having the balls to carry on making these decisions even when it's 0-0 in the final in the 89th minute. Consistency is key. Who can remember the authorities bringing in a rule/notion that forwards would be given the doubt on close call offsides to make the game more attractive. |
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Post by theonlooker on Nov 22, 2022 17:14:41 GMT
Absolute joke of a decision in the Mexico / Poland game.
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