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Post by a on Oct 15, 2022 16:02:21 GMT
He’ll thrive (further) his work rate and ability to score will benefit him in this side.
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 15, 2022 16:05:27 GMT
He’ll thrive (further) his work rate and ability to score will benefit him in this side. He will have to wait his turn because only an idiot would drop Campbell and Gayle at the moment. Neil obviously thinks a lot of Campbell, so that's good news
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Post by a on Oct 15, 2022 16:10:20 GMT
He’ll thrive (further) his work rate and ability to score will benefit him in this side. He will have to wait his turn because only an idiot would drop Campbell and Gayle at the moment. Neil obviously thinks a lot of Campbell, so that's good news Can’t disagree muckka
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Post by ab61 on Oct 15, 2022 16:14:27 GMT
Jacob who
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 15, 2022 16:16:40 GMT
Campbell's injury looked like a back strain possibly?. Hope he's not too badly injured, his work rate today was so much better..
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 15, 2022 16:27:19 GMT
I've lost track of when hes's due back. Must still be another 3 weeks. With the amount of midweek games it's very much a squad game. I like Brown but I'm not sure he walks straight back in. After today I'm not sure even Tymon does in our current formation. Only Powell (for Smallbone) and Soutter (for Jags at a push).
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Post by swampmongrel on Oct 15, 2022 17:53:19 GMT
I've lost track of when hes's due back. Must still be another 3 weeks. With the amount of midweek games it's very much a squad game. I like Brown but I'm not sure he walks straight back in. After today I'm not sure even Tymon does in our current formation. Only Powell (for Smallbone) and Soutter (for Jags at a push). Would you not consider playing Souttar and Jags together?
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Post by swampmongrel on Oct 15, 2022 17:54:14 GMT
His passing is nowhere near good enough for that role Who is bothered about passing? And creativity is a nonsense. I want to see him putting the opposition under pressure and causing mistakes. One of our greatest ever attacking midfielders was Mama and he wasn’t exactly the most creative of players. A strong, combative, hard running player is what we need. Classic March😀
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Post by swampmongrel on Oct 15, 2022 17:57:17 GMT
What was good to see Saturday was a number of players were ‘up for it’ and giving 100%, it’s often been just Baker & Brown. I think Jacob will prob be a squad player/impact player from now on, like DWP, Neil has sure got selection headache when Tymon Souttar Powell etc all return! Question: in all honesty, would you rather have the skill (and petulance!) of Arnie & Shaq versus the graft & effort of Baker & Brown? I’d go for the latter, seven days a week! Really? I like a grafter as much as the next fan but Arnautovic versus Brown isn’t really a contest, is it?
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Post by cvillestokie on Oct 15, 2022 18:05:57 GMT
What was good to see Saturday was a number of players were ‘up for it’ and giving 100%, it’s often been just Baker & Brown. I think Jacob will prob be a squad player/impact player from now on, like DWP, Neil has sure got selection headache when Tymon Souttar Powell etc all return! Question: in all honesty, would you rather have the skill (and petulance!) of Arnie & Shaq versus the graft & effort of Baker & Brown? I’d go for the latter, seven days a week! Really? I like a grafter as much as the next fan but Arnautovic versus Brown isn’t really a contest, is it? Agreed. I like Brown a lot. But I’d much rather have someone with as much talent as Arnie or Shaqiri. There’s no one even close to that level in this league.
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Post by misterj on Oct 15, 2022 18:27:43 GMT
Really? I like a grafter as much as the next fan but Arnautovic versus Brown isn’t really a contest, is it? Agreed. I like Brown a lot. But I’d much rather have someone with as much talent as Arnie or Shaqiri. There’s no one even close to that level in this league. You mean no one close to that level of petulance, moodiness, shit body language when the coach or captain have a go at home, couldn’t-be-arsed to run back when Stoke lost the ball, absolutely zero interest in forming a rapport with fans or the city in general, couldn’t even be bothered (half the term) to look excited after scoring a goal (although I think I saw a semi-smile on a couple of occasions) head dropped really easily if things not going his way and often tracked back in the style of someone who was constipated ie could hardly run ….. apart from all that Arnie was great!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 15, 2022 18:27:59 GMT
I've lost track of when hes's due back. Must still be another 3 weeks. With the amount of midweek games it's very much a squad game. I like Brown but I'm not sure he walks straight back in. After today I'm not sure even Tymon does in our current formation. Only Powell (for Smallbone) and Soutter (for Jags at a push). Would you not consider playing Souttar and Jags together? Jags has been fantastic but he’s due to leave in Jan Id rather go for the long term partnership with Wilmot who I rate.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 15, 2022 18:29:01 GMT
Would you not consider playing Souttar and Jags together? Jags has been fantastic but he’s due to leave in Jan Id rather go for the long term partnership with Wilmot who I rate. Surely Jags is worth a 6 month extension?
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 15, 2022 18:34:11 GMT
Agreed. I like Brown a lot. But I’d much rather have someone with as much talent as Arnie or Shaqiri. There’s no one even close to that level in this league. You mean no one close to that level of petulance, moodiness, shit body language when the coach or captain have a go at home, couldn’t-be-arsed to run back when Stoke lost the ball, absolutely zero interest in forming a rapport with fans or the city in general, couldn’t even be bothered (half the term) to look excited after scoring a goal (although I think I saw a semi-smile on a couple of occasions) head dropped really easily if things not going his way and often tracked back in the style of someone who was constipated ie could hardly run ….. apart from all that Arnie was great! Well he was great and one of if not the best player I've seem pull on a Stoke shirt.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 15, 2022 18:39:49 GMT
Jags has been fantastic but he’s due to leave in Jan Id rather go for the long term partnership with Wilmot who I rate. Surely Jags is worth a 6 month extension? He is if it means that Flint isn’t the fall back option. He’s a class player.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 15, 2022 18:41:52 GMT
Surely Jags is worth a 6 month extension? He is if it means that Flint isn’t the fall back option. He’s a class player. Kind of what I was getting at mate. Imagine letting Jags go and keeping Flint
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Post by cvillestokie on Oct 15, 2022 18:44:08 GMT
Agreed. I like Brown a lot. But I’d much rather have someone with as much talent as Arnie or Shaqiri. There’s no one even close to that level in this league. You mean no one close to that level of petulance, moodiness, shit body language when the coach or captain have a go at home, couldn’t-be-arsed to run back when Stoke lost the ball, absolutely zero interest in forming a rapport with fans or the city in general, couldn’t even be bothered (half the term) to look excited after scoring a goal (although I think I saw a semi-smile on a couple of occasions) head dropped really easily if things not going his way and often tracked back in the style of someone who was constipated ie could hardly run ….. apart from all that Arnie was great! I don’t really remember any of that to be honest. Arnie always looked pleased with himself when scoring. He also did a lot of tracking back. We’d have been down by December if it wasn’t for Shaqiri single-handedly bring us forwards most games.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 15, 2022 18:48:56 GMT
Arnie was one of the best defensive wingers we had.
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Post by a on Oct 15, 2022 21:05:06 GMT
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Post by a on Oct 15, 2022 21:05:33 GMT
Arnie was one of the best defensive wingers we had. 🤦
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Post by werrington on Oct 15, 2022 21:10:24 GMT
Arnie was one of the best defensive wingers we had. 🤦 He was
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 15, 2022 21:15:03 GMT
Arnie was one of the best defensive wingers we had. 🤦 He was though. He’d track runners and would put his body between man and ball. He protected his full back better than anyone we had on the wing in the PL imo.
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Post by a on Oct 15, 2022 21:27:38 GMT
He was though. He’d track runners and would put his body between man and ball. He protected his full back better than anyone we had on the wing in the PL imo. He was. But I don’t know of anyone who signs a winger to be defensive. Do you?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 15, 2022 21:30:06 GMT
He was though. He’d track runners and would put his body between man and ball. He protected his full back better than anyone we had on the wing in the PL imo. He was. But I don’t know of anyone who signs a winger to be defensive. Do you? They have a job to stop the opposition full back. When Walters was on the right wing we had a spate of left backs scoring against us and it was because he couldn’t read the game. Arnie could and his defensive side was excellent.
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Post by gawa on Oct 15, 2022 22:57:02 GMT
Jags has been fantastic but he’s due to leave in Jan Id rather go for the long term partnership with Wilmot who I rate. Surely Jags is worth a 6 month extension? Be a great player/coach with the experience he brings. Is John Oshea still here?
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 15, 2022 22:58:35 GMT
Surely Jags is worth a 6 month extension? Be a great player/coach with the experience he brings. Is John Oshea still here? Yes
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Post by misterj on Oct 16, 2022 7:08:17 GMT
I agree overall Arnie was a decent player but was merely saying I didn’t understand the eulogising over someone who - would admit himself - had a terrible attitude. I found the whole ‘Stokealona’ thing embarrassing, I don’t think it sits well with our DNA, a working class, grafting tradition but I DO like skill players, in fact my favourite Stoke player of all time was 70’s Alan Hudson then in the 80’s Mark Chamberlain, I think we cope better when there’s just one or two in the team e.g. at the moment you’d only say there’s Powell (plus possibly Fosu) who fall under that category. Under Hughes we had too many, their heads / egos collectively grew quicker than interest rates under Liz Truss and we were doomed. I also refute that Arnie tracked back, I sit in row 8 and close up would see the ‘couldn’t be arsed’ expression on his face when he lost the ball? Maybe there’s stats somewhere that either back you up or back me?
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Post by hardcastle on Oct 16, 2022 17:35:53 GMT
Not sure we have an unequivocal first eleven, do we? It's a squad game. If we're talking 4231 then any of Dwight, Campbell, Delap, Fosu, Brown, Powell or Smallbone could make the 'front four'. My only reservation would be that it would only ever be Powell OR Smallbone for the number ten spot.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 16, 2022 17:40:08 GMT
I agree overall Arnie was a decent player but was merely saying I didn’t understand the eulogising over someone who - would admit himself - had a terrible attitude. I found the whole ‘Stokealona’ thing embarrassing, I don’t think it sits well with our DNA, a working class, grafting tradition but I DO like skill players, in fact my favourite Stoke player of all time was 70’s Alan Hudson then in the 80’s Mark Chamberlain, I think we cope better when there’s just one or two in the team e.g. at the moment you’d only say there’s Powell (plus possibly Fosu) who fall under that category. Under Hughes we had too many, their heads / egos collectively grew quicker than interest rates under Liz Truss and we were doomed. I also refute that Arnie tracked back, I sit in row 8 and close up would see the ‘couldn’t be arsed’ expression on his face when he lost the ball? Maybe there’s stats somewhere that either back you up or back me? How dare we aspire to be like one of the best football teams ever.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 16, 2022 18:03:14 GMT
I agree overall Arnie was a decent player but was merely saying I didn’t understand the eulogising over someone who - would admit himself - had a terrible attitude. I found the whole ‘Stokealona’ thing embarrassing, I don’t think it sits well with our DNA, a working class, grafting tradition but I DO like skill players, in fact my favourite Stoke player of all time was 70’s Alan Hudson then in the 80’s Mark Chamberlain, I think we cope better when there’s just one or two in the team e.g. at the moment you’d only say there’s Powell (plus possibly Fosu) who fall under that category. Under Hughes we had too many, their heads / egos collectively grew quicker than interest rates under Liz Truss and we were doomed. I also refute that Arnie tracked back, I sit in row 8 and close up would see the ‘couldn’t be arsed’ expression on his face when he lost the ball? Maybe there’s stats somewhere that either back you up or back me? Who needs stats or evidence when you’ve got facial expressions viewed from a distance tho
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