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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 7, 2022 20:06:35 GMT
Potter is a culture builder. That takes patience, it's only 12 months since he was being booed at the Amex. I don't blame the guy for taking a payday but the shelf life of a Chelsea manager is 12-18 months. It would be a huge job to change culture and turn them in to title contenders or CL winners from where they are now. I guess the only saving grace is there is life after Chelsea and its easier with a few mill in your arse pocket. First part of bottom sentence perfectly sums it up. A manager has to take the Chelsea job. It catapults them into a different league of future managerial appointments.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 7, 2022 20:10:02 GMT
Potter is a culture builder. That takes patience, it's only 12 months since he was being booed at the Amex. I don't blame the guy for taking a payday but the shelf life of a Chelsea manager is 12-18 months. It would be a huge job to change culture and turn them in to title contenders or CL winners from where they are now. I guess the only saving grace is there is life after Chelsea and its easier with a few mill in your arse pocket. Yes all very true but I reckon it’s too big an opportunity for him to turn down. Yes Tuchel’s pay off is thought to be £13 million
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 7, 2022 20:10:18 GMT
Nice to see an ex potter as a manager in demand pity we didn't make the leap years ago when he came back England
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 7, 2022 20:30:47 GMT
Potter is a culture builder. That takes patience, it's only 12 months since he was being booed at the Amex. I don't blame the guy for taking a payday but the shelf life of a Chelsea manager is 12-18 months. It would be a huge job to change culture and turn them in to title contenders or CL winners from where they are now. I guess the only saving grace is there is life after Chelsea and its easier with a few mill in your arse pocket. First part of bottom sentence perfectly sums it up. A manager has to take the Chelsea job. It catapults them into a different league of future managerial appointments. Possibly. Possibly not. For every Jose Mourihno there's an Avram Grant and for every Carlo Ancelloti there's a Roberto Di Matteo.
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Post by olias on Sept 7, 2022 20:55:06 GMT
The problem with being the new manager of this particular club, is that all new appointees will know they get a cracking payment after the inevitable sacking. Which doesn't make loyal managers. Mind you, it could be said for all new managers and clubs, it's just this one has more of a turnstile fixture to it than others*.
(*Excepting Stoke)
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 7, 2022 21:25:37 GMT
Apparently Chelsea's new owners see Potter as their manager for the long-term...
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 8, 2022 6:36:41 GMT
I'd still be amazed if Chelsea went for someone with an absence of big club experience and trophies, but new owners may want a different approach I guess.
Quite the gamble on both sides.
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 8, 2022 8:48:53 GMT
Apparently Chelsea's new owners see Potter as their manager for the long-term... What past xmas do they mean Potter verbally agreed terms to become chelsea manager now according to TS just.
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Post by stokiejoe on Sept 8, 2022 8:53:34 GMT
Must be "brutal" to take on a job and be sacked after a hundred days, not sure that if it happened to me that the £13 million pay off would compensate.
Happy to give it a try though!!
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Post by thebet365 on Sept 8, 2022 9:04:32 GMT
Must be "brutal" to take on a job and be sacked after a hundred days, not sure that if it happened to me that the £13 million pay off would compensate. Happy to give it a try though!! The 100 days is under the new ownership, He's been there since Jan 21 but still nice work if you can get it.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 8, 2022 9:46:39 GMT
Apparently Chelsea's new owners see Potter as their manager for the long-term... We'll see. During his stint at Brighton Potter has had a few poor runs of form. The ownership stuck with him - to their credit - and are now seeing the payback. See how he goes at Chelsea if he gets to the point that he's only got three draws to show from his last six games.
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 8, 2022 10:11:03 GMT
I wish Potter well and he should grab the chance of making a few million quid while he has to chance. Good luck to the lad, but I'll never forgive him for missing that bloody header against Leicester. OS.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 8, 2022 10:13:09 GMT
Sacked before the end of the season.
Daft from Chelsea sacking a top manager who's achieved so much and going for a manager that's achieved nothing.
At least Potter won't have to worry about ££ ever again.
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 8, 2022 10:13:52 GMT
If they have any sense then they'll be offering the job to Graham Potter. He's worked absolute wonders with Brighton and would be a much, much cheaper option than some of the big names that they will undoubtedly be linked with. IMO he should be such an attractive option for any big team. He's turned Brighton in to a great side, on a relative shoestring budget and made a profit in the transfer window in the process. Some of these big names are old news - and don't stick around anywhere longer than 2-3 years. Potter has been a miracle worker at Brighton and Ostersund with little backing. I guess the only issue would be how he'd deal with some of the big egos, but his human approach to coaching and his qualifications in social sciences would leave him better placed than most. Still makes me feel sick that we passed up on him. Plenty of people scoffed at the idea. I just don’t think Potter is the right fit for Chelsea. They have ideas above their station whereas Potter isn’t a big time Charlie type of manager. He’ll face a lot of egos in that Chelsea team looking at Potter and asking him “So what have you won?!” Chelsea would also have to pay Brighton compensation. Zidane is a living legend of football, is a La Liga winner, a 3x Champions League winning manager, and is currently out of work. He seems the natural choice for me. And we shouldn’t keep dwelling on what could have been if we recruited Potter. There would have been no point, as he would have left us after a year anyway. What you’ve described about Zidane is exactly why he shouldn’t risk his reputation on a mental club like Chelsea.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 8, 2022 10:22:34 GMT
New owners may want a long term project. Let's face it Abamovich's style of sacking managers every two years and bringing in multi million players every transfer window is not sustainable over time. I find it really refreshing that a top 6 club has looked at an English manager with a very low profile. I think the players may be in for a culture shock, especially if he sends them out litter picking on Monday like he allegedly did first day at Swansea. Hope it works out for him. I realky like the bloke irrespective of him being ex Stoke.
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Post by cdf on Sept 8, 2022 10:23:50 GMT
Personally, I think that he will be at Chelsea for the next 18 months or so, get sacked, then will take over from Southgate to become the new England manager
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Sept 8, 2022 11:20:12 GMT
Apparently Chelsea's new owners see Potter as their manager for the long-term... Why would they ditch an incredibly successful model in favour of finding a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow? Managers have a shelf life at a club odd names throughout history are anomolies. Not sure why so many clubs and football fans put so much faith into finding the next anomoly rather than following the rule.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 8, 2022 12:12:09 GMT
Personally, I think that he will be at Chelsea for the next 18 months or so, get sacked, then will take over from Southgate to become the new England manager Shame, then, that taking the Chelsea job now, if he does, appears to rule him out of taking over from Southgate after the WC later this year. Unless Southgate does well again, of course, although even then I wouldn't be surprised if he fancied another crack at club management as soon as the WC is over.
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 8, 2022 12:13:22 GMT
There has obviously been stuff going on at Chelsea. Tuchel has seem quite rattled in recent times when talking about the club. Maybe he knew they were waiting for him to lose a game so they could sack him and bring in their own man, as new owners often do. Could tell he wasn’t 100% with that nonsense with Conte
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Post by cdf on Sept 8, 2022 14:39:22 GMT
Personally, I think that he will be at Chelsea for the next 18 months or so, get sacked, then will take over from Southgate to become the new England manager Shame, then, that taking the Chelsea job now, if he does, appears to rule him out of taking over from Southgate after the WC later this year. Unless Southgate does well again, of course, although even then I wouldn't be surprised if he fancied another crack at club management as soon as the WC is over. Southgate signed a contract extension which keeps him in the job until 2024 by which time, I'm sure he will want a break from the England set up which is perfect timing for Graham Potter.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 8, 2022 14:48:33 GMT
Well done Chelsea . After his antics last week serves him right!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2022 14:50:29 GMT
Nice to see an ex potter as a manager in demand pity we didn't make the leap years ago when he came back England To be fair plenty of clubs could have appointed him and didn't. It's too big an opportunity to turn down. Might never get the chance again and a manager's career is never a stable one no matter where they are so taking what's on offer isn't a sin.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 8, 2022 14:55:18 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 8, 2022 14:58:30 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 8, 2022 15:04:48 GMT
I'd love to find out if it's true that we turned him down twice and if so, why.
You can't say he wasn't open to a move to this level as he ended up at Swansea.
It's these kind of questions that need asking of our ownership.
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Post by Silkystoke on Sept 8, 2022 15:17:55 GMT
Is this good for him or not, I think not..!!!
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Sept 8, 2022 15:21:02 GMT
Much as I like Potter, it seems mad to replace somebody who has won top level European and World trophies with somebody who never has. It's definitely a gamble, so time will tell whether it's a good one.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Sept 8, 2022 15:25:20 GMT
He had no choice really. He's ambitious and if it doesn't work out and they get rid before the end of his contract, he will have a nice bit of cash in the bank. His main problem will be gathering those players around him and forging an identity, which started to disappear under Tuchel.
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Post by pistol on Sept 8, 2022 15:29:54 GMT
It depends what ideas for the club the new owners have, what is their version of success? I hope it works out for him but one thing you know with Chelsea is you’re gonna get sacked at some point
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2022 15:40:49 GMT
Is this good for him or not, I think not..!!! I agree. He should have stayed put.
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