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Post by followyoudown on Sept 7, 2022 10:47:29 GMT
5 year contract on double or triple his current salary he'd be mad not to take it Brighton are pretty close to their ceiling and seem happy to sell one of their better players every year without ever really reinvesting massively, worst case sacked in 18 months with hefty pay off, best case he is England manager within 3 or 4 years. More sensible clubs than Chelsea will be watching him. He'll get what he deserves in time. Man City, Liverpool, Man Utd, Tottenham and Arsenal aren't becoming free in the 18 months by that time his stock could easily have fallen. Chelsea have the best youth academy will back him in the transfer window, all that Chelsea team needs is a goalscorer and possibly a keeper as Mendy has started to look shakey last few months and they would soon be challenging.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 7, 2022 10:48:38 GMT
Remember that brief period where we worried Sparky was next in line for the United job. Good times.
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Post by lowlands on Sept 7, 2022 10:50:36 GMT
Chelsea want to be successful and made a decision before it escalates into a nonsense, we should try it some time
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 7, 2022 10:50:53 GMT
He hasn't been sacked and done a great job at Leicester and Celtic. Arsenal were bottom of the Prem not so long back. Has Arteta failed? And he failed in his previous attempt at managing a 'superclub' - Liverpool. Failure to these kind of clubs is not winning the PL or the CL. Again, did he really fail there? He took them from 7th to finishing closer than anyone in the previous 25 years had to winning the league.
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Post by stokie223 on Sept 7, 2022 10:51:06 GMT
If they have any sense then they'll be offering the job to Graham Potter. He's worked absolute wonders with Brighton and would be a much, much cheaper option than some of the big names that they will undoubtedly be linked with. IMO he should be such an attractive option for any big team. He's turned Brighton in to a great side, on a relative shoestring budget and made a profit in the transfer window in the process. Some of these big names are old news - and don't stick around anywhere longer than 2-3 years. Potter has been a miracle worker at Brighton and Ostersund with little backing. I guess the only issue would be how he'd deal with some of the big egos, but his human approach to coaching and his qualifications in social sciences would leave him better placed than most. Still makes me feel sick that we passed up on him. Plenty of people scoffed at the idea. I just don’t think Potter is the right fit for Chelsea. They have ideas above their station whereas Potter isn’t a big time Charlie type of manager. He’ll face a lot of egos in that Chelsea team looking at Potter and asking him “So what have you won?!” Chelsea would also have to pay Brighton compensation. Zidane is a living legend of football, is a La Liga winner, a 3x Champions League winning manager, and is currently out of work. He seems the natural choice for me. And we shouldn’t keep dwelling on what could have been if we recruited Potter. There would have been no point, as he would have left us after a year anyway. I 100% agree with you! I think Chelsea should be kicking his door down, but I also think that - if he has any sense - he should turn them down. They're Watford with a more expensive post code. A big job will undoubtedly surface for him in time. I personally think he'd be a great fit at United because they'd afford him the time to make it work, back him and he'd also have a good academy to work with too. Zidane would definitely be the most 'Chelsea' of the prospective managers, however I'm sure I've seen it reported that he's not at all keen on coming to the UK (may or may not be true). Agree on that too - we are where we are. I just think it's mental he wasn't ever given any serious consideration when he had made it clear he fancied it. His record speaks for itself, albeit that at the time that was mostly confined to the Swedish leagues.
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Post by HarryTheHat on Sept 7, 2022 10:51:10 GMT
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 7, 2022 10:56:04 GMT
This alone is a sackable offence 😄
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Post by bhp on Sept 7, 2022 10:57:02 GMT
Graham Potter has got to be massively in the running. Ange Postecoglou or Brendon Rogers as outsiders? Will not be long before Ange gets a job in the Premier League, very good coach in my view.
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 7, 2022 10:57:03 GMT
And he failed in his previous attempt at managing a 'superclub' - Liverpool. Failure to these kind of clubs is not winning the PL or the CL. Again, did he really fail there? He took them from 7th to finishing closer than anyone in the previous 25 years had to winning the league. Yes. The job was to win the league and he didn't do it.
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Post by miltonstokienew on Sept 7, 2022 10:57:12 GMT
Good to see that incredible partnership between Thomas Tuchel and Aubameyang lasted 59 minutes.
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Post by marylandstoke on Sept 7, 2022 11:03:50 GMT
To think, if we had just waited a week we could have had Tommy Tutone
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2022 11:13:39 GMT
Again, did he really fail there? He took them from 7th to finishing closer than anyone in the previous 25 years had to winning the league. Yes. The job was to win the league and he didn't do it. Really, and you know that was 'the job'? As mentioned above, he was the only one who came close in a quarter of a century.
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Post by gawa on Sept 7, 2022 11:13:47 GMT
Must have sacked them as they know Michael O'Neill is free. Be announced in no time
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 7, 2022 11:15:15 GMT
Again, did he really fail there? He took them from 7th to finishing closer than anyone in the previous 25 years had to winning the league. Yes. The job was to win the league and he didn't do it. His job absolutely wasn't to win the league. He exceeded expectations there.
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 7, 2022 11:15:47 GMT
Must have sacked them as they know Michael O'Neill is free. Be announced in no time Would be a wonderful appointment for Chelsea...
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 7, 2022 11:17:20 GMT
Yes. The job was to win the league and he didn't do it. His job absolutely wasn't to win the league. He exceeded expectations there. Ok - we'll agree to disagree that every Liverpool managers job is to either win the league or the champions league.
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Post by gawa on Sept 7, 2022 11:18:38 GMT
Must have sacked them as they know Michael O'Neill is free. Be announced in no time Would be a wonderful appointment for Chelsea... Maybe this is why Dean Holden was in London a few days ago. Pretty sure Michael was in Croatia last night too.
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 7, 2022 11:19:29 GMT
Yes. The job was to win the league and he didn't do it. Really, and you know that was 'the job'? As mentioned above, he was the only one who came close in a quarter of a century. We'll agree to disagree. The expectation is that Liverpool should win the league. If he was such a success why did they ditch him?
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Post by biglad180 on Sept 7, 2022 11:19:57 GMT
top manager and will walk in to another job no problem, if only we waited.
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Post by gawa on Sept 7, 2022 11:21:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2022 11:23:20 GMT
I remember reading a year or two ago , that Pep is a big fan of Graham Potter.
He's definitely rated by the top people in the game.
Hard to know if Chelsea is a challenge or a poisoned chalice , but my money would be on Potter.
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 7, 2022 11:23:29 GMT
Really, and you know that was 'the job'? As mentioned above, he was the only one who came close in a quarter of a century. We'll agree to disagree. The expectation is that Liverpool should win the league. If he was such a success why did they ditch him? Just looked his record up. For Liverpool finishing 7th, 2nd and 6th with no trophies is failure.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 7, 2022 11:29:52 GMT
We'll agree to disagree. The expectation is that Liverpool should win the league. If he was such a success why did they ditch him? Just looked his record up. For Liverpool finishing 7th, 2nd and 6th with no trophies is failure. They were not expected to win the league when Rodgers was there though were they and he got them as close as anyone else had for years.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 7, 2022 11:31:49 GMT
Graham Potter has got to be massively in the running. Ange Postecoglou or Brendon Rogers as outsiders? Outsiders as in 10000 to 1? What is Brendan's appeal to them? Knows the club? Achieved more than Potter. That's not a dig at Potter either as he's not been managing anywhere near as long
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 7, 2022 11:32:55 GMT
His job absolutely wasn't to win the league. He exceeded expectations there. Ok - we'll agree to disagree that every Liverpool managers job is to either win the league or the champions league. When Rodgers was appointed they hadn't even qualified for the Champions League for the previous three seasons. They finished 7th, 6th and 8th. They're one of the biggest clubs in the country for sure but he was appointed to improve their standing and get them back into the top four, winning the league was a pipe dream at that time.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 7, 2022 11:34:04 GMT
We'll agree to disagree. The expectation is that Liverpool should win the league. If he was such a success why did they ditch him? Just looked his record up. For Liverpool finishing 7th, 2nd and 6th with no trophies is failure. Finishing second and nearly winning the league when they finished 8th the season before he arrived isn't failure.
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Post by lordb on Sept 7, 2022 11:36:35 GMT
Chelsea want to be successful and made a decision before it escalates into a nonsense, we should try it some time We just did didn't we?
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 7, 2022 11:43:15 GMT
Yes. The job was to win the league and he didn't do it. His job absolutely wasn't to win the league. He exceeded expectations there. He won the Champions League which is a bigger trophy than the Prem.
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 7, 2022 11:44:46 GMT
His job absolutely wasn't to win the league. He exceeded expectations there. He won the Champions League which is a bigger trophy than the Prem. No he didn't
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 7, 2022 11:47:16 GMT
Chelsea want to be successful and made a decision before it escalates into a nonsense, we should try it some time We just did didn't we? comparing Stoke with Chelsea in this respect is a bit daft. Look at the choice of managers they have at any given time, they can bring in a proven successful manager at the drop of a hat. I bet Sean Dyche wont be 3/1
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