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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 2, 2022 21:17:09 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 2, 2022 21:19:37 GMT
He pulls a name out of thin air occasionally and they never sign.
I hope for once he’s correct here.
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 2, 2022 21:24:39 GMT
I think we have to accept that Bursik will never make a decent championship keeper and move on. If that means taking an aged proven keeper for a season I'm happy with that.
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 2, 2022 21:34:26 GMT
I'll give it five games before some wag goes on the pitch and smashes his go pro...
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 2, 2022 21:37:16 GMT
No thanks
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2022 21:37:48 GMT
I'm sure someone said he'd retired
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 2, 2022 21:50:04 GMT
I think we have to accept that Bursik will never make a decent championship keeper and move on. If that means taking an aged proven keeper for a season I'm happy with that. What? The lad is 22 years of age with fairly limited playing experience in 1st team professional football and his SCFC experience has to-date been behind an ever changing and inconsistent defence. I’m under the impression that many goalkeepers (unless you’re an absolute star) don’t start to develop properly until their late 20’s. If I’m incorrect don’t hesitate to list the many anomalies. You may be absolutely bang on with your long term opinion but give the guy a chance. Perhaps a loan away from the spotlight may be just the tonic he needs and benefit SCFC in the long term
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Post by stokefc on Sept 2, 2022 21:53:10 GMT
I think we have to accept that Bursik will never make a decent championship keeper and move on. If that means taking an aged proven keeper for a season I'm happy with that. What? The lad is 22 years of age with fairly limited playing experience in 1st team professional football and his SCFC experience has to-date been behind an ever changing and inconsistent defence. I’m under the impression that many goalkeepers (unless you’re an absolute star) don’t start to develop properly until their late 20’s. If I’m incorrect don’t hesitate to list the many anomalies.
You may be absolutely bang on with your long term opinion but give the guy a chance. Perhaps a loan away from the spotlight may be just the tonic he needs and benefit SCFC in the long term Butland
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 2, 2022 22:16:57 GMT
What? The lad is 22 years of age with fairly limited playing experience in 1st team professional football and his SCFC experience has to-date been behind an ever changing and inconsistent defence. I’m under the impression that many goalkeepers (unless you’re an absolute star) don’t start to develop properly until their late 20’s. If I’m incorrect don’t hesitate to list the many anomalies.
You may be absolutely bang on with your long term opinion but give the guy a chance. Perhaps a loan away from the spotlight may be just the tonic he needs and benefit SCFC in the long term Butland and?
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 2, 2022 22:19:00 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 2, 2022 22:22:25 GMT
That did happen. Which was funny. Still I’d like Foster here so for once I hope he’s actually been told something that comes true.
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Post by shooters on Sept 3, 2022 9:34:49 GMT
I think we have to accept that Bursik will never make a decent championship keeper and move on. If that means taking an aged proven keeper for a season I'm happy with that. Far too early. He has the potential and needs games just maybe another full season in league 1 ideally.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 3, 2022 9:38:49 GMT
I think we have to accept that Bursik will never make a decent championship keeper and move on. If that means taking an aged proven keeper for a season I'm happy with that. What? The lad is 22 years of age with fairly limited playing experience in 1st team professional football and his SCFC experience has to-date been behind an ever changing and inconsistent defence. I’m under the impression that many goalkeepers (unless you’re an absolute star) don’t start to develop properly until their late 20’s. If I’m incorrect don’t hesitate to list the many anomalies. You may be absolutely bang on with your long term opinion but give the guy a chance. Perhaps a loan away from the spotlight may be just the tonic he needs and benefit SCFC in the long term Pickford's 1st game for Sunderland was aged 22. The shite spouted on here about one of our own young players beggars belief. Numpty40 could do with fucking off up the Vale for a bit
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Post by crouchbot on Sept 3, 2022 9:47:54 GMT
😂 it’s not like I’ve been abusive or anything… jeez. I mean, I’m not even wrong!
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Post by Championship Potter on Sept 3, 2022 9:49:30 GMT
Nick Pope was playing on loan at York City in League Two at Bursik’s age. Edouard Mendy was playing in the French non league. It’s safe to say Bursik isn’t the second coming of Banks, but there’s still plenty of time to improve. A couple more years and we could well have one of the best keepers in this league on our hands. That being said, I don’t think we are doing him or us playing him when he’s still making basic mistakes. A season or so out of the team and just focusing on training is probably what he needs.
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Post by scfcwebby on Sept 3, 2022 9:51:57 GMT
Nick Pope was playing on loan at York City in League Two at Bursik’s age. Edouard Mendy was playing in the French non league. It’s safe to say Bursik isn’t the second coming of Banks, but there’s still plenty of time to improve. A couple more years and we could well have one of the best keepers in this league on our hands. That being said, I don’t think we are doing him or us playing him when he’s still making basic mistakes. A season or so out of the team and just focusing on training is probably what he needs. I've backed him more than most, but he does need a full season out on loan, preferably to a team challenging at the top of league 1, but not many (if any) need a keeper unless they get an injury But Bonham certainly isn't the answer, we need a number 1 to come in, and I think Foster would be a solid choice, or even Loris Karius who's also a free agent
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Post by awrypotter on Sept 3, 2022 9:57:24 GMT
Whether or not he has the potential, which only time will tell, the point is we can't afford to let him learn by his mistakes in the first team. We need a good, solid first-choice goalkeeper which he is not at this time. Letting him go out on loan for a couple of seasons is probably the best way to show if he can improve.
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Post by buckoscfc on Sept 3, 2022 10:35:14 GMT
39 year old vlogging GK with bright shiny boots, I'll pass.
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Post by cvillestokie on Sept 3, 2022 11:09:06 GMT
What? The lad is 22 years of age with fairly limited playing experience in 1st team professional football and his SCFC experience has to-date been behind an ever changing and inconsistent defence. I’m under the impression that many goalkeepers (unless you’re an absolute star) don’t start to develop properly until their late 20’s. If I’m incorrect don’t hesitate to list the many anomalies. You may be absolutely bang on with your long term opinion but give the guy a chance. Perhaps a loan away from the spotlight may be just the tonic he needs and benefit SCFC in the long term Pickford's 1st game for Sunderland was aged 22. The shite spouted on here about one of our own young players beggars belief. Numpty40 could do with fucking off up the Vale for a bit Tachyon did release a decent amount of info on the Bursik thread that highlighted that it’s unlikely that his shot stopping % will get any better than now in this division based on his already decent level of experience. Given that this stat is also one of the worst in the division, I can’t see him doing too much. He could go out on loan, he has 9 months of a contract left, so when he does, he’s gone. He thinks he’s good enough to play here already, he’s not. He seemingly doesn’t want to sign a new contract, so let’s forget about him. If we do somehow have a new budget, Foster would be a decent idea. At 39, we can offer a 1 year deal and then look to replace next year. He had half a campaign in the division above last year, so should still be sharp.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 3, 2022 12:54:39 GMT
Pickford's 1st game for Sunderland was aged 22. The shite spouted on here about one of our own young players beggars belief. Numpty40 could do with fucking off up the Vale for a bit Tachyon did release a decent amount of info on the Bursik thread that highlighted that it’s unlikely that his shot stopping % will get any better than now in this division based on his already decent level of experience. Given that this stat is also one of the worst in the division, I can’t see him doing too much. He could go out on loan, he has 9 months of a contract left, so when he does, he’s gone. He thinks he’s good enough to play here already, he’s not. He seemingly doesn’t want to sign a new contract, so let’s forget about him. If we do somehow have a new budget, Foster would be a decent idea. At 39, we can offer a 1 year deal and then look to replace next year. He had half a campaign in the division above last year, so should still be sharp. What are Tachyons stats on Edouard Mendy? At 22 was released by third tier AS Cherbourg. He registered as unemployed and thought about giving up football? He's since got the following honours: Ligue 2: 2017–18 UEFA Champions League: 2020–21 UEFA Super Cup: 2021 FIFA Club World Cup: 2021 FA Cup runner-up: 2020–21 and 2021–22 EFL Cup runner-up: 2021–22 Africa Cup of Nations: 2021; runner-up: 2019 And been named in: UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2020–21 Ghana Football Awards Best African International: 2021 UEFA Champions League Goalkeeper of the Season: 2020–21 The Best FIFA Men's Goalkeeper: 2021 Africa Cup of Nations Best Goalkeeper: 2021 Africa Cup of Nations Team of the Tournament: 2021 People need to stop quoting Tachyon like he is some footballing god
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Sept 3, 2022 13:01:58 GMT
Tachyon did release a decent amount of info on the Bursik thread that highlighted that it’s unlikely that his shot stopping % will get any better than now in this division based on his already decent level of experience. Given that this stat is also one of the worst in the division, I can’t see him doing too much. He could go out on loan, he has 9 months of a contract left, so when he does, he’s gone. He thinks he’s good enough to play here already, he’s not. He seemingly doesn’t want to sign a new contract, so let’s forget about him. If we do somehow have a new budget, Foster would be a decent idea. At 39, we can offer a 1 year deal and then look to replace next year. He had half a campaign in the division above last year, so should still be sharp. What are Tachyons stats on Edouard Mendy? At 22 was released by third tier AS Cherbourg. He registered as unemployed and thought about giving up football? He's since got the following honours: Ligue 2: 2017–18 UEFA Champions League: 2020–21 UEFA Super Cup: 2021 FIFA Club World Cup: 2021 FA Cup runner-up: 2020–21 and 2021–22 EFL Cup runner-up: 2021–22 Africa Cup of Nations: 2021; runner-up: 2019 And been named in: UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2020–21 Ghana Football Awards Best African International: 2021 UEFA Champions League Goalkeeper of the Season: 2020–21 The Best FIFA Men's Goalkeeper: 2021 Africa Cup of Nations Best Goalkeeper: 2021 Africa Cup of Nations Team of the Tournament: 2021 People need to stop quoting Tachyon like he is some footballing god Sounds a bit bitchy wassup jealous people like his input more?
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Post by cvillestokie on Sept 3, 2022 13:04:32 GMT
Tachyon did release a decent amount of info on the Bursik thread that highlighted that it’s unlikely that his shot stopping % will get any better than now in this division based on his already decent level of experience. Given that this stat is also one of the worst in the division, I can’t see him doing too much. He could go out on loan, he has 9 months of a contract left, so when he does, he’s gone. He thinks he’s good enough to play here already, he’s not. He seemingly doesn’t want to sign a new contract, so let’s forget about him. If we do somehow have a new budget, Foster would be a decent idea. At 39, we can offer a 1 year deal and then look to replace next year. He had half a campaign in the division above last year, so should still be sharp. What are Tachyons stats on Edouard Mendy? At 22 was released by third tier AS Cherbourg. He registered as unemployed and thought about giving up football? He's since got the following honours: Ligue 2: 2017–18 UEFA Champions League: 2020–21 UEFA Super Cup: 2021 FIFA Club World Cup: 2021 FA Cup runner-up: 2020–21 and 2021–22 EFL Cup runner-up: 2021–22 Africa Cup of Nations: 2021; runner-up: 2019 And been named in: UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2020–21 Ghana Football Awards Best African International: 2021 UEFA Champions League Goalkeeper of the Season: 2020–21 The Best FIFA Men's Goalkeeper: 2021 Africa Cup of Nations Best Goalkeeper: 2021 Africa Cup of Nations Team of the Tournament: 2021 People need to stop quoting Tachyon like he is some footballing god I imagine that they include him. Statistics provide information on the frequency of pattern occurrence. There will be some people who buck trends, but outliers don’t disprove statistics, they occur in spite of them. Bursik has played over 100 senior games, most of them for Stoke. I can’t remember one that he was good in. I don’t see any reason why he would get that much better given how many games he’s already played. If he wanted to sign a new contract and was happy to be loaned out, then perhaps we should try. But it does Stoke no good to have one of the worst performers in the league as our goalkeeper. Isn’t that why some are even considering the idea of Foster - 39 year old with presumably little left in the tank?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 3, 2022 13:06:35 GMT
I see nothing in Bursik to think he will get anywhere near the top.
Any shot near to the corner he cant seem to reach or stop. Unless he is going to grow 4 more inches or have some springs implanted into his legs he will never save those shots.
We should get rid of him otherwise it will become Butland all over again. Maybe if he starts afresh at a lower league he might get some confidence, but it will not happen while he is at Stoke.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 3, 2022 13:15:51 GMT
What are Tachyons stats on Edouard Mendy? At 22 was released by third tier AS Cherbourg. He registered as unemployed and thought about giving up football? He's since got the following honours: Ligue 2: 2017–18 UEFA Champions League: 2020–21 UEFA Super Cup: 2021 FIFA Club World Cup: 2021 FA Cup runner-up: 2020–21 and 2021–22 EFL Cup runner-up: 2021–22 Africa Cup of Nations: 2021; runner-up: 2019 And been named in: UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2020–21 Ghana Football Awards Best African International: 2021 UEFA Champions League Goalkeeper of the Season: 2020–21 The Best FIFA Men's Goalkeeper: 2021 Africa Cup of Nations Best Goalkeeper: 2021 Africa Cup of Nations Team of the Tournament: 2021 People need to stop quoting Tachyon like he is some footballing god Sounds a bit bitchy wassup jealous people like his input more? Did you just type 'wassup'?
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 3, 2022 13:16:44 GMT
I see nothing in Bursik to think he will get anywhere near the top. Any shot near to the corner he cant seem to reach or stop. Unless he is going to grow 4 more inches or have some springs implanted into his legs he will never save those shots. We should get rid of him otherwise it will become Butland all over again. Maybe if he starts afresh at a lower league he might get some confidence, but it will not happen while he is at Stoke. What he will become a full England international whilst playing for us?
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 3, 2022 13:19:55 GMT
What are Tachyons stats on Edouard Mendy? At 22 was released by third tier AS Cherbourg. He registered as unemployed and thought about giving up football? He's since got the following honours: Ligue 2: 2017–18 UEFA Champions League: 2020–21 UEFA Super Cup: 2021 FIFA Club World Cup: 2021 FA Cup runner-up: 2020–21 and 2021–22 EFL Cup runner-up: 2021–22 Africa Cup of Nations: 2021; runner-up: 2019 And been named in: UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2020–21 Ghana Football Awards Best African International: 2021 UEFA Champions League Goalkeeper of the Season: 2020–21 The Best FIFA Men's Goalkeeper: 2021 Africa Cup of Nations Best Goalkeeper: 2021 Africa Cup of Nations Team of the Tournament: 2021 People need to stop quoting Tachyon like he is some footballing god I imagine that they include him. Statistics provide information on the frequency of pattern occurrence. There will be some people who buck trends, but outliers don’t disprove statistics, they occur in spite of them. Bursik has played over 100 senior games, most of them for Stoke. I can’t remember one that he was good in. I don’t see any reason why he would get that much better given how many games he’s already played. If he wanted to sign a new contract and was happy to be loaned out, then perhaps we should try. But it does Stoke no good to have one of the worst performers in the league as our goalkeeper. Isn’t that why some are even considering the idea of Foster - 39 year old with presumably little left in the tank? Apart from in football. You can quote the stats, the xG's, the percentages etc etc etc that doesnt stop the trend being bucked in multiple games every single week
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Post by Championship Potter on Sept 3, 2022 13:23:59 GMT
Nick Pope was playing on loan at York City in League Two at Bursik’s age. Edouard Mendy was playing in the French non league. It’s safe to say Bursik isn’t the second coming of Banks, but there’s still plenty of time to improve. A couple more years and we could well have one of the best keepers in this league on our hands. That being said, I don’t think we are doing him or us playing him when he’s still making basic mistakes. A season or so out of the team and just focusing on training is probably what he needs. I've backed him more than most, but he does need a full season out on loan, preferably to a team challenging at the top of league 1, but not many (if any) need a keeper unless they get an injury But Bonham certainly isn't the answer, we need a number 1 to come in, and I think Foster would be a solid choice, or even Loris Karius who's also a free agent Pope and Pickford had plenty of lower league loans at his age, so can see the logic. He’ll definitely improve with more experience - all goalkeepers do. Agree on Foster or Karius. An experienced goalkeeper in this league is worth a lot of points as virtually every game is tight. We’d be top 6 at this point with a decent keeper, and that’s despite an injury crisis and some very questionable team selections.
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Post by cvillestokie on Sept 3, 2022 13:48:41 GMT
I imagine that they include him. Statistics provide information on the frequency of pattern occurrence. There will be some people who buck trends, but outliers don’t disprove statistics, they occur in spite of them. Bursik has played over 100 senior games, most of them for Stoke. I can’t remember one that he was good in. I don’t see any reason why he would get that much better given how many games he’s already played. If he wanted to sign a new contract and was happy to be loaned out, then perhaps we should try. But it does Stoke no good to have one of the worst performers in the league as our goalkeeper. Isn’t that why some are even considering the idea of Foster - 39 year old with presumably little left in the tank? Apart from in football. You can quote the stats, the xG's, the percentages etc etc etc that doesnt stop the trend being bucked in multiple games every single week Right, but in most games, the trend is followed. There are thousands of games played every week, the vast majority of those obey the same formula: the team with the most, good quality chances often win, the team with a goalkeeper who can’t save simple shots often lose.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2022 13:50:45 GMT
What? The lad is 22 years of age with fairly limited playing experience in 1st team professional football and his SCFC experience has to-date been behind an ever changing and inconsistent defence. I’m under the impression that many goalkeepers (unless you’re an absolute star) don’t start to develop properly until their late 20’s. If I’m incorrect don’t hesitate to list the many anomalies. You may be absolutely bang on with your long term opinion but give the guy a chance. Perhaps a loan away from the spotlight may be just the tonic he needs and benefit SCFC in the long term Pickford's 1st game for Sunderland was aged 22. The shite spouted on here about one of our own young players beggars belief. Numpty40 could do with fucking off up the Vale for a bit The shite is because he's young he's going to be some great keeper yet nothing to suggest will remotely happen. Pickford looked a keeper from day 1
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 3, 2022 13:50:58 GMT
Apart from in football. You can quote the stats, the xG's, the percentages etc etc etc that doesnt stop the trend being bucked in multiple games every single week Right, but in most games, the trend is followed. There are thousands of games played every week, the vast majority of those obey the same formula: the team with the most, good quality chances often win, the team with a goalkeeper who can’t save simple shots often lose. We'd all be football accumulator millionaires if that was true
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