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Post by iglugluk on Sept 3, 2022 14:01:01 GMT
We certainly didn't do good business in some very important areas during the transfer window, with GK being right up there amongst the most mystifying.. it was always a BIG risk allowing MoN's blinkered vision to be in charge of our mythical 'rebuild' and it's left us wanting. An out of contract keeper seems to be a realistic necessity due to that.
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Post by cvillestokie on Sept 3, 2022 14:09:57 GMT
Right, but in most games, the trend is followed. There are thousands of games played every week, the vast majority of those obey the same formula: the team with the most, good quality chances often win, the team with a goalkeeper who can’t save simple shots often lose. We'd all be football accumulator millionaires if that was true If you could predict what games would buck the trend, yes
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 3, 2022 14:25:34 GMT
Hope this happens up until at least January, more experienced than keepers we have. Excuse the pun, but we need a safe pair of hands. To be fair to Joe, don’t think he’s ready, needs a good lLeague One loan. . Jack did well the other night, but when he gets a run of games, not such a safe pair of hands imo. Definitely, a good no.2. Which is what I think he was bought for.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2022 14:48:21 GMT
Pickford's 1st game for Sunderland was aged 22. The shite spouted on here about one of our own young players beggars belief. Numpty40 could do with fucking off up the Vale for a bit The shite is because he's young he's going to be some great keeper yet nothing to suggest will remotely happen. Pickford looked a keeper from day 1 Pickford has always had those games where you just know he's not going to get beaten. He's slightly smaller than Bursik but he's got fantastic spring. Has Bursik ever had one of those games? Not that I can remember. I just don't think he's got the reflexes and spring of a top keeper and I don't think it's something that will develop. Other parts of his game are good but shot stopping is the bread and butter.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 3, 2022 16:55:28 GMT
Pickford's 1st game for Sunderland was aged 22. The shite spouted on here about one of our own young players beggars belief. Numpty40 could do with fucking off up the Vale for a bit The shite is because he's young he's going to be some great keeper yet nothing to suggest will remotely happen. Pickford looked a keeper from day 1 Mate I remember watching Pickford play on loan for Burton when he was about 19 and he was the dogs bollocks then.
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Post by dirtclod on Sept 3, 2022 17:05:01 GMT
The shite is because he's young he's going to be some great keeper yet nothing to suggest will remotely happen. Pickford looked a keeper from day 1 Pickford has always had those games where you just know he's not going to get beaten. He's slightly smaller than Bursik but he's got fantastic spring. Has Bursik ever had one of those games? Not that I can remember. I just don't think he's got the reflexes and spring of a top keeper and I don't think it's something that will develop. Other parts of his game are good but shot stopping is the bread and butter. Good point - "spring" and reflex-reaction is like foot speed, you either have it or you don't. Not much you can "coach" into them for that. I question whether or not Bursik has "it", (doesn't appear so) but I think there' s enough there to let him go out on loan in order to determine that. Edit: But then again, I'm a selfish bastard who thinks we need a new #1 keeper, maybe even a new #2 as well. (But that's getting greedy)
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Sept 3, 2022 17:16:46 GMT
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/talksport.com/football/1166924/ben-foster-hints-retirement-football-pub-pint/amp/39 year old who by his own admission has loved not having to do any training at all for months and spent the time he'd usually be doing pre-season training in pubs eating crisps and drinking pints. Yeah, definitely ready to throw straight into the first team in one of the tightest leagues around. Sod how good he may have been (always been deabatable anyway) or who he played for, he's about as fit as me at this moment in time! No ta.
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Post by Veritas on Sept 3, 2022 17:28:14 GMT
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/talksport.com/football/1166924/ben-foster-hints-retirement-football-pub-pint/amp/39 year old who by his own admission has loved not having to do any training at all for months and spent the time he'd usually be doing pre-season training in pubs eating crisps and drinking pints. Yeah, definitely ready to throw straight into the first team in one of the tightest leagues around. Sod how good he may have been (always been deabatable anyway) or who he played for, he's about as fit as me at this moment in time! No ta. Add 20+ years on and I could be the answer, I have had a pre-season like that and in 1967 I won a runners up medal as a goal keeper in a lads n dads 5 a side competition.
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Post by kjpt140v on Sept 3, 2022 20:27:11 GMT
Nick Pope was playing on loan at York City in League Two at Bursik’s age. Edouard Mendy was playing in the French non league. It’s safe to say Bursik isn’t the second coming of Banks, but there’s still plenty of time to improve. A couple more years and we could well have one of the best keepers in this league on our hands. That being said, I don’t think we are doing him or us playing him when he’s still making basic mistakes. A season or so out of the team and just focusing on training is probably what he needs. I hope we are not in this league in a couple of years time.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 3, 2022 20:28:56 GMT
Sign him up, stick him on the bench ready for an injury to Bonham and send Bursik on loan
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Post by kjpt140v on Sept 3, 2022 20:31:05 GMT
I see nothing in Bursik to think he will get anywhere near the top. Any shot near to the corner he cant seem to reach or stop. Unless he is going to grow 4 more inches or have some springs implanted into his legs he will never save those shots. We should get rid of him otherwise it will become Butland all over again. Maybe if he starts afresh at a lower league he might get some confidence, but it will not happen while he is at Stoke.
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Post by kjpt140v on Sept 3, 2022 20:33:27 GMT
I see nothing in Bursik to think he will get anywhere near the top. Any shot near to the corner he cant seem to reach or stop. Unless he is going to grow 4 more inches or have some springs implanted into his legs he will never save those shots. We should get rid of him otherwise it will become Butland all over again. Maybe if he starts afresh at a lower league he might get some confidence, but it will not happen while he is at Stoke. I love reading expert's opinions. Why don't you apply for a goalkeeping coach's position?
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 3, 2022 20:47:40 GMT
Pickford has always had those games where you just know he's not going to get beaten. He's slightly smaller than Bursik but he's got fantastic spring. Has Bursik ever had one of those games? Not that I can remember. I just don't think he's got the reflexes and spring of a top keeper and I don't think it's something that will develop. Other parts of his game are good but shot stopping is the bread and butter. Good point - "spring" and reflex-reaction is like foot speed, you either have it or you don't. Not much you can "coach" into them for that. I question whether or not Bursik has "it", (doesn't appear so) but I think there' s enough there to let him go out on loan in order to determine that. Edit: But then again, I'm a selfish bastard who thinks we need a new #1 keeper, maybe even a new #2 as well. (But that's getting greedy) He's a professional goalkeeper and currently England's u21 no.1. Of course he has it. Or do you think everyone who sees him play and train week in week out has missed it, apart from the Oatcakes resident goalkeeping experts? I despair with this board sometimes.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 3, 2022 20:51:18 GMT
Good point - "spring" and reflex-reaction is like foot speed, you either have it or you don't. Not much you can "coach" into them for that. I question whether or not Bursik has "it", (doesn't appear so) but I think there' s enough there to let him go out on loan in order to determine that. Edit: But then again, I'm a selfish bastard who thinks we need a new #1 keeper, maybe even a new #2 as well. (But that's getting greedy) He's a professional goalkeeper and currently England's u21 no.1. Of course he has it. Or do you think everyone who sees him play and train week in week out has missed it, apart from the Oatcakes resident goalkeeping experts? I despair with this board sometimes. It’s obvious he’s wank mate, don’t you want us to win games?
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 3, 2022 20:53:47 GMT
He's a professional goalkeeper and currently England's u21 no.1. Of course he has it. Or do you think everyone who sees him play and train week in week out has missed it, apart from the Oatcakes resident goalkeeping experts? I despair with this board sometimes. It’s obvious he’s wank mate, don’t you want us to win games? Him and Bonham have won the same amount so that theory is wank isn't it
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 3, 2022 20:58:50 GMT
It’s obvious he’s wank mate, don’t you want us to win games? Him and Bonham have won the same amount so that theory is wank isn't it Not sure what you mean by won but Bonham right now is a better goalkeeper and that’s a fact. Ok I get what you mean now, but you only have to watch both to know who is better at this moment. And I’m not saying Bonham is good by the way, just that Bursik is terrible
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Post by albundy on Sept 3, 2022 20:59:57 GMT
The shite is because he's young he's going to be some great keeper yet nothing to suggest will remotely happen. Pickford looked a keeper from day 1 Mate I remember watching Pickford play on loan for Burton when he was about 19 and he was the dogs bollocks then. Pickford was awful when we put 3 past them at the SOL
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 3, 2022 21:16:24 GMT
Mate I remember watching Pickford play on loan for Burton when he was about 19 and he was the dogs bollocks then. Pickford was awful when we put 3 past them at the SOL So perhaps there’s hope for Joe then after all.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 3, 2022 21:19:35 GMT
Him and Bonham have won the same amount so that theory is wank isn't it Not sure what you mean by won but Bonham right now is a better goalkeeper and that’s a fact. Ok I get what you mean now, but you only have to watch both to know who is better at this moment. And I’m not saying Bonham is good by the way, just that Bursik is terrible Is he? Chucked one in v Sunderland. Accepted. Was fine against Millwall (could do nothing about either goal). Made a good save. Decent enough against Blackpool. Was excellent against Boro. Made a really really good save to keep us in the game. Some blame him for Huddersfields 1st. I don't. There are 3 centre halves all in front of him for blame on that goal. Baker goes in front too for missing the pen. We then collapsed in the final 20. He's been a bit jittery on occasion but he's young and under pressure that doesnt make it easy for him. He's anything but terrible though. You've found a player you don't like. Fine. But as least be honest about his performances and don't cherry pick.
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Post by dirtclod on Sept 3, 2022 21:23:35 GMT
All I'm saying is that Bonham is better right now, so no - I'm not convinced that Bursik has "it." And YES - I think a LOT more than that has been getting missed on our training pitches, hence our performance for the past multiple years. Like throw-ins to pick just one.
But I believe this new manager will sort much of that out - guess we'll see.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 3, 2022 21:24:08 GMT
Not sure what you mean by won but Bonham right now is a better goalkeeper and that’s a fact. Ok I get what you mean now, but you only have to watch both to know who is better at this moment. And I’m not saying Bonham is good by the way, just that Bursik is terrible Is he? Chucked one in v Sunderland. Accepted. Was fine against Millwall (could do nothing about either goal). Made a good save. Decent enough against Blackpool. Was excellent against Boro. Made a really really good save to keep us in the game. Some blame him for Huddersfields 1st. I don't. There are 3 centre halves all in front of him for blame on that goal. Baker goes in front too for missing the pen. We then collapsed in the final 20. He's been a bit jittery on occasion but he's young and under pressure that doesnt make it easy for him. He's anything but terrible though. You've found a player you don't like. Fine. But as least be honest about his performances and don't cherry pick. He’s not had a good game this season
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Post by samwidge on Sept 3, 2022 21:26:15 GMT
I see nothing in Bursik to think he will get anywhere near the top. Any shot near to the corner he cant seem to reach or stop. Unless he is going to grow 4 more inches or have some springs implanted into his legs he will never save those shots. We should get rid of him otherwise it will become Butland all over again. Maybe if he starts afresh at a lower league he might get some confidence, but it will not happen while he is at Stoke. Totally agree. He's simply not very good. It's a shame, but that's that.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 3, 2022 21:29:32 GMT
Is he? Chucked one in v Sunderland. Accepted. Was fine against Millwall (could do nothing about either goal). Made a good save. Decent enough against Blackpool. Was excellent against Boro. Made a really really good save to keep us in the game. Some blame him for Huddersfields 1st. I don't. There are 3 centre halves all in front of him for blame on that goal. Baker goes in front too for missing the pen. We then collapsed in the final 20. He's been a bit jittery on occasion but he's young and under pressure that doesnt make it easy for him. He's anything but terrible though. You've found a player you don't like. Fine. But as least be honest about his performances and don't cherry pick. He’s not had a good game this season You must not be wearing your specs when sitting in your armchair then
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 3, 2022 21:30:29 GMT
He’s not had a good game this season You must not be wearing your specs when sitting in your armchair then That must be it
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 3, 2022 21:33:29 GMT
You must not be wearing your specs when sitting in your armchair then That must be it Must be. You should maybe take a break from here and rest you eyes. Taking sleep into account you have been posting on here at least once an hour, every single day for 4 years. It's addled your brain.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 3, 2022 21:39:20 GMT
Must be. You should maybe take a break from here and rest you eyes. Taking sleep into account you have been posting on here at least once an hour, every single day for 4 years. It's addled your brain. I’m really sorry you feel the need to stalk posters. Get some help ya fuckin weirdo😉
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 3, 2022 21:57:11 GMT
Not sure what you mean by won but Bonham right now is a better goalkeeper and that’s a fact. Ok I get what you mean now, but you only have to watch both to know who is better at this moment. And I’m not saying Bonham is good by the way, just that Bursik is terrible Is he? Chucked one in v Sunderland. Accepted. Was fine against Millwall (could do nothing about either goal). Made a good save. Decent enough against Blackpool. Was excellent against Boro. Made a really really good save to keep us in the game. Some blame him for Huddersfields 1st. I don't. There are 3 centre halves all in front of him for blame on that goal. Baker goes in front too for missing the pen. We then collapsed in the final 20. He's been a bit jittery on occasion but he's young and under pressure that doesnt make it easy for him. He's anything but terrible though. You've found a player you don't like. Fine. But as least be honest about his performances and don't cherry pick. My dead nan could have saved the Huddersfield headed goal…..
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 3, 2022 22:02:36 GMT
Is he? Chucked one in v Sunderland. Accepted. Was fine against Millwall (could do nothing about either goal). Made a good save. Decent enough against Blackpool. Was excellent against Boro. Made a really really good save to keep us in the game. Some blame him for Huddersfields 1st. I don't. There are 3 centre halves all in front of him for blame on that goal. Baker goes in front too for missing the pen. We then collapsed in the final 20. He's been a bit jittery on occasion but he's young and under pressure that doesnt make it easy for him. He's anything but terrible though. You've found a player you don't like. Fine. But as least be honest about his performances and don't cherry pick. My dead nan could have saved the Huddersfield headed goal….. Bet you a grand she couldn't
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 3, 2022 22:05:50 GMT
My dead nan could have saved the Huddersfield headed goal….. Bet you a grand she couldn't Utterly pathetic, looks like it’s you who needs a break you numpty
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 3, 2022 22:08:57 GMT
Bet you a grand she couldn't Utterly pathetic, looks like it’s you who needs a break you numpty He asserted someone who is dead could have saved the goal and I'm pathetic. At least your 1 post an hour for 4 years is largely made up of shite
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