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Post by musik on Sept 9, 2022 13:18:09 GMT
Friday 9/9-2022
The LATEST and LAST opinion poll before the Selection on Sunday, from SvT/Novus.
Left side 49.7%
Right side 49.4%
Terror đź¤
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Post by musik on Sept 9, 2022 13:24:49 GMT
The Prime Minister is atm talking about the Energy Crisis on TV. She blames Putin. The Right side blame the left side.
At 8 pm the "Finale Election Debate" takes place until 10 pm. đź“ş
It will be interesting to see if the Green Party leader (one of the two, since they have a rule it must be one female and one "male", it's probably genetic), will shake the leader of the Sweden Democrats Party's hand and agree upon he's not a nazi. Last time she didn't, she refused.
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Post by cvillestokie on Sept 9, 2022 16:16:15 GMT
In NL, the Radbound (I think) created a website that asks you numerous questions based on differences in each parties recently published manifesto. They are all multiple choice. At the end, it tells you which party’s manifesto most suits your beliefs, why and importantly, where it goes against them. Does Sweden have this? I think every country should have one and people should be told to use it before they actually vote. We do. The national tv (SVT) has one, every major news paper has one, there are numerous. Problem with them, they aren't neutral and the explanations they give to each question differs when it comes to choice of words, nuances and also what issues they pick. I have tried several and after each one of those being told what political party suits me the best. Problem is the outcome is a different political party each time. According to them every political party should get my vote - apart from C, so far. 🤠Interesting. I think the idea of it being political gets in the way of things a lot. The whole concept should be to have it as neutral. It’s a shame it doesn’t work that well, I really liked the one in NL. It’s a tool I think that all countries should create with an independent party.
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 9, 2022 19:17:08 GMT
It all sounds like a witch's brew musik. Have you thought of trying an ouija board and following its instructions?
Dresden, England, would be a great place for you to emigrate to. We have some brilliant, eccentric people living here. The only downside is that we don't have a communal laundry.
Cup of tea and a Hobnob.
OS.
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Post by lordb on Sept 9, 2022 20:31:34 GMT
It all sounds like a witch's brew musik. Have you thought of trying an ouija board and following its instructions? Dresden, England, would be a great place for you to emigrate to. We have some brilliant, eccentric people living here. The only downside is that we don't have a communal laundry. Cup of tea and a Hobnob. OS. I lived in Dresden for a year in 'Tower house' (it's actually got a different name) in Ricardo St Lively pubs
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Post by musik on Sept 9, 2022 20:38:08 GMT
It all sounds like a witch's brew musik. Have you thought of trying an ouija board and following its instructions? Dresden, England, would be a great place for you to emigrate to. We have some brilliant, eccentric people living here. The only downside is that we don't have a communal laundry. Cup of tea and a Hobnob. OS. Ahaa. The landlord's service team a few years ago said to me they would search for new knobs to my stove in a workshop in Dresden. They were told it could exist some spare parts left there. But it took a very very long time for them to get the knobs. Maybe the were at the wrong Dresden, the one in Germany? Or vice versa? 🤠p.s I have to cancel the laundry pass on Thursday due to work. d.s.
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Post by musik on Sept 9, 2022 20:46:25 GMT
The Finale Debate is over.
The analysis afterwards was canceled on tv for the first time ever. An omen?
I noticed The left side, especially the Prime Minister, talked straight to the camera all the time. The right side turned to the left side while talking.
Issues tonight: energy, crime, health care, school.
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Post by musik on Sept 9, 2022 21:54:07 GMT
Listening now late to the replay of the Radio Debate the political party leaders were invited to earlier this week.
One issue they come back to all the time is crime and segregation, i.e meaning lack of integration.
What I don't get is why they're talking about segregation as a cause.
Not everyone in those no-go areas are criminals, not close to everyone, fact is very far from everyone. It's a tiny tiny minority of the people living in a no-go area who in fact are criminals.
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 10, 2022 13:40:44 GMT
It all sounds like a witch's brew musik. Have you thought of trying an ouija board and following its instructions? Dresden, England, would be a great place for you to emigrate to. We have some brilliant, eccentric people living here. The only downside is that we don't have a communal laundry. Cup of tea and a Hobnob. OS. I lived in Dresden for a year in 'Tower house' (it's actually got a different name) in Ricardo St Lively pubs 'Tower House' is a wonderful architectural place. Musik would love it. Here's a recent link to it. (You may need an ad-blocker with the Sentivale. ) Tower House. OS.
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Post by marylandstoke on Sept 10, 2022 20:58:03 GMT
Up the Swedish right. Love to Swedish libertarians. We DO have a libertarian party as well. It's called The Classical Liberal Party. They got 0.02% of the votes last time. There are lots of small political parties. I met a man some days ago who said they have long lists with unknown parties if you ask on Election Day. Just write the name of the political party you've chosen on a piece of paper. Alternative for Sweden is one of them. Enhet (Unit) is another. Have no idea what they want. The Communist Party. Fi (Feminine Initiative) is one. The Animals Party is an odd party. The man I met planned to vote for The button pushers party. It really exists. It’s a little know fact outside Sweden but the Animals Party’s HQ is The House of the Rising Sun.
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Post by musik on Sept 10, 2022 21:33:31 GMT
We DO have a libertarian party as well. It's called The Classical Liberal Party. They got 0.02% of the votes last time. There are lots of small political parties. I met a man some days ago who said they have long lists with unknown parties if you ask on Election Day. Just write the name of the political party you've chosen on a piece of paper. Alternative for Sweden is one of them. Enhet (Unit) is another. Have no idea what they want. The Communist Party. Fi (Feminine Initiative) is one. The Animals Party is an odd party. The man I met planned to vote for The button pushers party. It really exists. It’s a little know fact outside Sweden but the Animals Party’s HQ is The House of the Rising Sun. I have two versions.
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Post by musik on Sept 10, 2022 21:46:19 GMT
The latest news I just heard late tonight is that it can go either way tomorrow.
Personally, I don't think they can deliver a result tomorrow.
However, I just realised my idea of letting the victim decide the punishment wasn't at all a lonely odd idea. It has been discussed in the swedish media since 2008 in particular.
What's more. I found an article from February this year where the Conservative politician Forsell will see a new order where the victim completely decides the outcome of the punishment. If the Right side wins he will most likely be our new Minister of Justice.
I've spent a couple of hours now before midnight just to explore what different political parties think about the idea and it's only the communists who dislike the thought of it, not to my surprise. đź¤
Interesting days to come. Especially tomorrow.
Must sleep now.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 10, 2022 21:53:50 GMT
It’s a little know fact outside Sweden but the Animals Party’s HQ is The House of the Rising Sun. I have two versions. Is this one?
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Post by musik on Sept 10, 2022 22:23:45 GMT
No doubt Law and Order, Crime if you like is the #1 priority on the Election Tour for the political parties this year.
Sweden. The well-known Gangsta Paradise. I will read that book one day.
However, back on track ... Another idea I read described was to let the perpetrator work in prison until the decided money is paid to the victim. Not as it is today, where the perpetrator gets paid to work, and can SAVE some money, and still gets a room, food, medical care, tv, physical exercise et cetera.
The plan was, first work to get money to pay for those benefits, then pay off to the victim. Let's say 10 million SEK for assault or rape. That would take about a hundred years since the wage should be limited, there aren't that many highly qualified jobs that can be performed in prison. To save 100.000 SEK a year to the punishment (after all the mentioned costs are paid) isn't that bad at all. And all goes to the victim. It wasn't crystal clear but I think the writer meant to get free through work.
With that kind of ideas in the media, artcles, outlooks, it's going to be pretty wild tomorrow.
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Post by musik on Sept 10, 2022 22:30:08 GMT
Fun reading about people diverse ideas.
Another was to let animals get free dental care.
Not only as a discount as the Communists AND the Sweden Democrats want for people.
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Post by musik on Sept 10, 2022 22:31:18 GMT
Is this one? What was THAT! No, I just have The Animals and BTO.
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Post by musik on Sept 11, 2022 6:18:39 GMT
I'm in one of the many queues in Sweden now, the voting queue.
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I might start the musik-party next time. I've thought about it for many years.
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Post by musik on Sept 11, 2022 6:45:55 GMT
The preliminary result comes close to midnight. The definitive results: for the National Election next weekend and for the municipal councils and the regions the weekend thereafter.
🇸🇪🚶🌤️
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Post by musik on Sept 11, 2022 6:48:08 GMT
If the Right side win they will co-operate with England to lower both countries energy prices, by exporting at the right time. If the other side win we don't know, but possibly something similar.
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Post by musik on Sept 11, 2022 18:31:06 GMT
According the two presented Election Day Surveys, from TV4 and SVT, the left side win.
According to the SVT big survey it differs only 7000 votes between the left side and the right side.
According to the TV4 survey the difference is bigger.
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Post by swampmongrel on Sept 11, 2022 18:39:29 GMT
If the Right side win they will co-operate with England to lower both countries energy prices, by exporting at the right time. If the other side win we don't know, but possibly something similar. Does Sweden have a lot of energy to export?
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Post by elystokie on Sept 11, 2022 19:27:55 GMT
Is this one? What was THAT! No, I just have The Animals and BTO. John Otway Very entertaining live, used to be more so but since he turned about 65 he calmed his act down a bit. He did his 5,000th gig in April this year
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Post by musik on Sept 11, 2022 20:14:25 GMT
If the Right side win they will co-operate with England to lower both countries energy prices, by exporting at the right time. If the other side win we don't know, but possibly something similar. Does Sweden have a lot of energy to export? If the right side had won yes, but now the left side is in the lead.
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Post by musik on Sept 11, 2022 20:15:08 GMT
What was THAT! No, I just have The Animals and BTO. John Otway Very entertaining live, used to be more so but since he turned about 65 he calmed his act down a bit. He did his 5,000th gig in April this year Aha. Oj!
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Post by musik on Sept 11, 2022 20:17:35 GMT
It's still close.
The Left side is still in the lead.
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Post by musik on Sept 11, 2022 20:29:02 GMT
More news
The islamistic political party Nyans (Nuance) will get above 11% in suburban Akalla, Stockholm. We have a rule here. If they get 12% or more anywhere they can get a person on national level into Riksdagen (government), even if they're large only in a suburban somewhere.
That person can act as a political wild person, and act as he/she wants in every question. Since it's very even between the Left side and the Right side, it can have a very large impact on the result in various questions.
A female member of the V party (communists) was a political wild person the last years and she was thereby extremely important in many issues, Nato membership for instance. She has quit her job now.
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Post by musik on Sept 11, 2022 20:30:30 GMT
I can see a future where the extremes The Sweden Democrats and Nyans are the two large political parties in this country.
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Post by musik on Sept 11, 2022 20:35:31 GMT
Still counting
Mandates
Left 176
Right 173
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Post by musik on Sept 11, 2022 20:35:53 GMT
And now ...
Left 175
Right 174
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 11, 2022 20:59:12 GMT
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