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Post by Xyphon on Aug 9, 2022 21:58:48 GMT
Brief injury update on powell and souttar , havent seen it in any threads so i thought i'd address you lads.
NICK POWELL
Injury : Medial Ligament In Knee From Innocuous Tackle VS Leeds at Clayton Wood. - Pre Season (22/23)
Michael O'Neill's Words.
"It's four weeks since Nick did the injury against Leeds, so he's still probably four to six weeks away, I would think."
"He's not back training on the grass or anything. He's still with the medical team at this minute in time.
"His leg has been in a brace but he's no longer in that brace, so he's making progress and doing everything that he can, but obviously it's unfortunate because he will have missed the opportunity to be fit in pre-season, which I think was going to be important for Nick.
"So it's always difficult when you miss pre-season to get fit during the season, because we probably have to take a little bit more risk in terms of games that we drop him into. So we've just got to assess that.
"But it was a blow to him and a blow to us that he picked up the injury. It was just a tackle, so one of those things that you can't really avoid happening."
He's looking to be back late august to early september, hopefully could start the Luton Town game on the 10th September.
HARRY SOUTTAR
INJURY : Anterior Cruciate Ligament Damage - Australian International Duty In November 2021.
Michael O'Neill's Words.
"Harry is possibly a further eight to 10 weeks away. He has a little bit of a setback that he needed a small injection for, which we believe has helped him.
"He's doing everything possible, to be fair, but it's a very frustrating process for Harry, because I think possibly in his head he had the start of the season as a date to be fit. Probably that was slightly unrealistic. I think cruciate knee ligament injuries are very complex injuries in terms of time frame.
"Sometimes players come back too quick and can easily break down again - but equally we don't want it to run any longer than we feel is necessary. I think at this minute in time, we're somewhere around about seven months since he did the injury - maybe slightly more than that.
"So he's still well within that time frame where he's made good progress but the next eight to 10 weeks will be crucial for Harry in terms of when we get him to return to play."
Souttar will most likely be back for the end of october to early november as long as his rehabilitation goes to plan and he doesn't have any further injuries , setbacks.
JOSH TYMON
Injury : Ankle Knock Towards The End Of The Millwall Game.
Dean Holden's Words.
"Tymo picked up an ankle knock towards the end of the game. We're hoping he'll be all right for the weekend, we'll just have to see, it's swollen and bruised at the moment."
Tymon should be back for the Huddersfield game on the 13th august 2022.
BEN WILMOT
Injury : "Little Heel Thing"
Dean Holden's Words.
"Ben Wilmot has picked up a little heel thing but that's just precautionary at the moment."
Wilmot should be back for Huddersfield game on the 13th august 2022.
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Post by theonlooker on Aug 9, 2022 22:01:24 GMT
Given the very loose rumours around Tymon, and the fact we're after a left sided centre back, I wouldn't be surprised if we were keeping Tymon and Wilmot from being cup tied.
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Post by Xyphon on Aug 9, 2022 22:02:27 GMT
Given the very loose rumours around Tymon, and the fact we're after a left sided centre back, I wouldn't be surprised if we were keeping Tymon and Wilmot from being cup tied. Yeah especially after Holden quotes it as "Heel Thing"
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 9, 2022 22:27:00 GMT
What surface are they all training on?
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Post by Gods on Aug 9, 2022 22:54:26 GMT
With my usual rule of thumb of 'double the official unavailable estimates and add some for luck' I think we may see Powell in November and Souttar not until the new year.
If Souttar does miss the World Cup I only hope it doesn't throw him in to some spiraling depression.
The Tymon and Wilmot injuries are nothing.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 9, 2022 23:50:14 GMT
With my usual rule of thumb of 'double the official unavailable estimates and add some for luck' I think we may see Powell in November and Souttar not until the new year. If Souttar does miss the World Cup I only hope it doesn't throw him in to some spiraling depression. The Tymon and Wilmot injuries are nothing. Best case. In fact, it’s possible that their careers might be over and indeed we cannot fully rule out amputation.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 10, 2022 7:03:46 GMT
Given the very loose rumours around Tymon, and the fact we're after a left sided centre back, I wouldn't be surprised if we were keeping Tymon and Wilmot from being cup tied. If that were true he could just have rested them - no one expected us to field a full strength team last night. No need to invent injuries if they don't exist. I'd say the story is exactly true and they both picked up minor knocks on Saturday.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 10, 2022 7:16:39 GMT
And I quite like Wilmot, think he gets an overly harsh bad press on here but who would want him? And who would pay what we paid for him? Just don’t see it.
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Post by Afrojack on Aug 10, 2022 7:37:51 GMT
Brief injury update on powell and souttar , havent seen it in any threads so i thought i'd address you lads. NICK POWELL Injury : Medial Ligament In Knee From Innocuous Tackle VS Leeds at Clayton Wood. - Pre Season (22/23) Michael O'Neill's Words.
"It's four weeks since Nick did the injury against Leeds, so he's still probably four to six weeks away, I would think."
"He's not back training on the grass or anything. He's still with the medical team at this minute in time.
"His leg has been in a brace but he's no longer in that brace, so he's making progress and doing everything that he can, but obviously it's unfortunate because he will have missed the opportunity to be fit in pre-season, which I think was going to be important for Nick.
"So it's always difficult when you miss pre-season to get fit during the season, because we probably have to take a little bit more risk in terms of games that we drop him into. So we've just got to assess that.
"But it was a blow to him and a blow to us that he picked up the injury. It was just a tackle, so one of those things that you can't really avoid happening." He's looking to be back late august to early september, hopefully could start the Luton Town game on the 10th September. HARRY SOUTTAR
INJURY : Anterior Cruciate Ligament Damage - Australian International Duty In November 2021.
Michael O'Neill's Words.
"Harry is possibly a further eight to 10 weeks away. He has a little bit of a setback that he needed a small injection for, which we believe has helped him.
"He's doing everything possible, to be fair, but it's a very frustrating process for Harry, because I think possibly in his head he had the start of the season as a date to be fit. Probably that was slightly unrealistic. I think cruciate knee ligament injuries are very complex injuries in terms of time frame.
"Sometimes players come back too quick and can easily break down again - but equally we don't want it to run any longer than we feel is necessary. I think at this minute in time, we're somewhere around about seven months since he did the injury - maybe slightly more than that.
"So he's still well within that time frame where he's made good progress but the next eight to 10 weeks will be crucial for Harry in terms of when we get him to return to play."
Souttar will most likely be back for the end of october to early november as long as his rehabilitation goes to plan and he doesn't have any further injuries , setbacks. JOSH TYMON Injury : Ankle Knock Towards The End Of The Millwall Game. Dean Holden's Words. "Tymo picked up an ankle knock towards the end of the game. We're hoping he'll be all right for the weekend, we'll just have to see, it's swollen and bruised at the moment." Tymon should be back for the Huddersfield game on the 13th august 2022. BEN WILMOT Injury : "Little Heel Thing" Dean Holden's Words. "Ben Wilmot has picked up a little heel thing but that's just precautionary at the moment." Wilmot should be back for Huddersfield game on the 13th august 2022.
Also bear in mind that the first two updates were from nearly 2 weeks ago
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Post by etebojan on Aug 10, 2022 9:43:43 GMT
Given the very loose rumours around Tymon, and the fact we're after a left sided centre back, I wouldn't be surprised if we were keeping Tymon and Wilmot from being cup tied. If that were true he could just have rested them - no one expected us to field a full strength team last night. No need to invent injuries if they don't exist. I'd say the story is exactly true and they both picked up minor knocks on Saturday. Tymon definitely took a bit of a clattering, i was at the game seated right by it, he was hobbling when he came off, I imagine he's going to be fine for the weekend, but can 100% see why they'd rest him after getting a hefty knock to the ankle
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Post by Veritas on Aug 10, 2022 10:28:40 GMT
Given the very loose rumours around Tymon, and the fact we're after a left sided centre back, I wouldn't be surprised if we were keeping Tymon and Wilmot from being cup tied. I wouldn't be surprised if you were adding 2 and 2 to make 47.
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Post by theonlooker on Aug 10, 2022 10:33:04 GMT
Given the very loose rumours around Tymon, and the fact we're after a left sided centre back, I wouldn't be surprised if we were keeping Tymon and Wilmot from being cup tied. I wouldn't be surprised if you were adding 2 and 2 to make 47. To be fair, that's a lot closer than I normally get when I add 2 and 2.
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Post by dekko on Aug 10, 2022 12:55:19 GMT
With Wilmot getting 4 U21 caps it be interesting to see if Taylor starts to get on the England radar.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 10, 2022 12:59:05 GMT
Given the very loose rumours around Tymon, and the fact we're after a left sided centre back, I wouldn't be surprised if we were keeping Tymon and Wilmot from being cup tied. Yeah especially after Holden quotes it as "Heel Thing" Heard he tripped over a can of Coca-Cola. It's always the heel thing.
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Post by Xyphon on Aug 10, 2022 14:15:34 GMT
Yeah especially after Holden quotes it as "Heel Thing" Heard he tripped over a can of Coca-Cola. It's always the heel thing.
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Post by andystokey on Aug 12, 2022 11:47:00 GMT
Yeah especially after Holden quotes it as "Heel Thing" Heard he tripped over a can of Coca-Cola. It's always the heel thing. I like to see women in a nice stiletto, that's a "heel thing" too.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 17, 2022 21:27:14 GMT
Tymon 4-6 weeks, Laurent 6-8 weeks, Clarke 6 weeks minimum.
Late October for Souttar and Powell……..
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Aug 17, 2022 21:29:05 GMT
Tymon 4-6 weeks, Laurent 6-8 weeks, Clarke 6 weeks minimum. No return date for Souttar or Powell yet…….. Frightening.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 17, 2022 21:29:37 GMT
Tymon 4-6 weeks, Laurent 6-8 weeks, Clarke 6 weeks minimum. No return date for Souttar or Powell yet…….. I just don’t get why our players appear to get injuries so easily and long term ones too. It wasn’t obvious they picked them up v Hudders. Surely h with Tymon out and no LWB he has to go to a 4.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 17, 2022 21:29:39 GMT
Honestly can’t believe that update.
Way more despondent now.
It’s ridiculous.
When are we going to have a full squad to choose from.
We’re decimated by injuries all the bloody time and it simply can’t be coincidence.
We also know it starts off at 6 weeks. You watch they’ll be out till after the World Cup.
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Post by bolders on Aug 17, 2022 21:29:43 GMT
Tymon 4-6 weeks, Laurent 6-8 weeks, Clarke 6 weeks minimum. Late October for Souttar and Powell…….. Is that genuine info?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 17, 2022 21:30:53 GMT
Tymon 4-6 weeks, Laurent 6-8 weeks, Clarke 6 weeks minimum. Late October for Souttar and Powell…….. Is that genuine info? Sorry misread Powell, 2-3 weeks……
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Post by jwhpotter on Aug 17, 2022 21:32:35 GMT
Have to sign another LWB
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 17, 2022 21:33:11 GMT
We did in fairness, he’s injured……
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Post by lordb on Aug 17, 2022 21:33:34 GMT
Powell back in 2 to 3 weeks is good news but 6 weeks out for Tymon, Clarke and Lauren is a stinker Have to ditch the wing backs with Tymon out so long
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Post by bunnyscfc on Aug 17, 2022 21:34:04 GMT
Knowing what we do now about injuries, getting a striker in on loan is bloody awful management.
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Post by stokest5 on Aug 17, 2022 21:35:40 GMT
We don’t need to. We’ve got Thompson 😩
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 17, 2022 21:36:09 GMT
He’ll have to go 4 at the back and use Edwards and Fox unless we can further turnaround the squad in the next 10 days……
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 17, 2022 21:36:42 GMT
Powell back in 2 to 3 weeks is good news but 6 weeks out for Tymon, Clarke and Lauren is a stinker Have to ditch the wing backs with Tymon out so long It’s the only thing we can do. Really concerned about midfield though without Laurent. So unbalanced tonight. I genuinely think, even though we’ve got a load of midfielders, that we need to sign another one now.
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Post by themistocles on Aug 17, 2022 21:36:52 GMT
It's not coincidence though is it. Our players aren't conditioned and that falls on thr management team again.
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