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Post by redandwhitetundra on Jul 27, 2022 17:49:09 GMT
As has been pointed out elsewhere, these have been banned for years. Its not something new..!
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jul 27, 2022 18:15:07 GMT
No pyro no party, wank decision made by absolute snowflakes❄️ loads of mates I know will set them off this season, everyone gets hurt and offended by everything nowadays and it’s now sneaking into football, it’s a flare not a bomb ffs So you and your mates don't give a shit about the elderly and the disabled who can't move away very easily when you set one off or people with breathing difficulties? Fuck the other 25,000 people as long as 5-10 chavs can have fun though eh? You and your mates sound like a lovely bunch of lads...sorry, i mean a group of utter juvenile pricks. Do they take jelly and ice cream too? P.S. as has aleeady been pointed out, it's not "sneaking into football". They've been banned for years already because a game of footy isn't just for you and your mates, it's for every person there who paid just as much as you to get in.
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Post by tpholloway1 on Jul 27, 2022 18:21:31 GMT
For me the rule should be no pitch invasions whilst the players and officials are on the pitch. They could come our after to join in if they wanted to. I know what you are saying there but I think when your team gets promoted the emotion takes over doesn't it? Look when we went up against Leicester there was no way that pitch wasn't getting filled at the final whistle, it was years of shit all ended in one beautiful moment. Agree, I was on the pitch, but one of these days a player or official is going to be injured. My suggestion would allow fans and, if they wished, players to share the moment. On a lighter note, it's a good job Wilko didn't score at Wembley, that would have been carnage. And don't forget the Cardiff announcer asking their fans not to invade so that the players could do a lap of honour - what happened to that?
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Post by cvillestokie on Jul 27, 2022 18:29:16 GMT
Things I go to Stoke for:
1) watch the game 2) talk to friends/family about the game 3….nope that’s it
I don’t go to Stoke to watch a firework show. I wonder where I could go to watch one of those….
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Post by a on Jul 27, 2022 18:35:27 GMT
No pyro no party, wank decision made by absolute snowflakes❄️ loads of mates I know will set them off this season, everyone gets hurt and offended by everything nowadays and it’s now sneaking into football, it’s a flare not a bomb ffs Take in a knife then too, after all, it’s not a bomb! While you’re at it take in some drugs too, Not a bomb! If the measure of acceptability is whether it’s a bomb or not then I think you need to reconsider what metric you measure against. I take it all those around who are engulfed in acrid smoke don’t get consulted first? If not then that’s just self centred, look at me, twattish behaviour. Hopefully you and your mates get banned.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jul 27, 2022 22:11:28 GMT
I don't think it's particularly radical or 'snowflakey' to be against the use of flares and pyros.
I'm not really sure what those who love to use them are getting out of it anyway. Can someone enlighten me? Is it a buzz to hold one? Do they make you believe you look really cool? Genuine question.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jul 27, 2022 22:15:38 GMT
Pitch invasions are a trickier one. I think they have a place in the game but they seem to be happening with greater regularity and an increasing number of idiots seem to be unable to behave and are ruining it for the rest.
You do wonder what has caused this change in behaviour. There seems to be a complete lack of respect for authority and I'm not entirely sure where it has stemmed from.
Covid restrictions? Government behaviour? More cokeheads? People just generally discontent and pissed off with life?
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Post by banksy1art on Jul 27, 2022 22:25:29 GMT
loads of mates I know will set them off this season, everyone gets hurt and offended by everything nowadays and it’s now sneaking into football, it’s a flare not a bomb ffs So you and your mates don't give a shit about the elderly and the disabled who can't move away very easily when you set one off or people with breathing difficulties? Fuck the other 25,000 people as long as 5-10 chavs can have fun though eh? You and your mates sound like a lovely bunch of lads...sorry, i mean a group of utter juvenile pricks. Do they take jelly and ice cream too? P.S. as has aleeady been pointed out, it's not "sneaking into football". They've been banned for years already because a game of footy isn't just for you and your mates, it's for every person there who paid just as much as you to get in. for one I’m not a juvenile and I’m also not a prick. The same people moaning about smoke bombs are the same ones constantly moaning about the club and everything revolving us. You all just want something to moan about!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 27, 2022 22:31:08 GMT
No pyro no party, wank decision made by absolute snowflakes❄️ loads of mates I know will set them off this season, everyone gets hurt and offended by everything nowadays and it’s now sneaking into football, it’s a flare not a bomb ffs Literally called a smoke bomb
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Post by banksy1art on Jul 27, 2022 23:13:41 GMT
loads of mates I know will set them off this season, everyone gets hurt and offended by everything nowadays and it’s now sneaking into football, it’s a flare not a bomb ffs Literally called a smoke bomb doesn’t quite blow your arm off though, people on here seem to think so though!
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Post by cvillestokie on Jul 27, 2022 23:44:27 GMT
So you and your mates don't give a shit about the elderly and the disabled who can't move away very easily when you set one off or people with breathing difficulties? Fuck the other 25,000 people as long as 5-10 chavs can have fun though eh? You and your mates sound like a lovely bunch of lads...sorry, i mean a group of utter juvenile pricks. Do they take jelly and ice cream too? P.S. as has aleeady been pointed out, it's not "sneaking into football". They've been banned for years already because a game of footy isn't just for you and your mates, it's for every person there who paid just as much as you to get in. for one I’m not a juvenile and I’m also not a prick. The same people moaning about smoke bombs are the same ones constantly moaning about the club and everything revolving us. You all just want something to moan about! But you still couldn’t care less about those not able to get out of the way then, or how your little bit of fun lessens the experience of others?
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Post by banksy1art on Jul 27, 2022 23:48:55 GMT
for one I’m not a juvenile and I’m also not a prick. The same people moaning about smoke bombs are the same ones constantly moaning about the club and everything revolving us. You all just want something to moan about! But you still couldn’t care less about those not able to get out of the way then, or how your little bit of fun lessens the experience of others? out of the way of what? A bit of smoke? The youths having fags in the toilets cause more harm.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jul 28, 2022 0:09:13 GMT
But you still couldn’t care less about those not able to get out of the way then, or how your little bit of fun lessens the experience of others? out of the way of what? A bit of smoke? The youths having fags in the toilets cause more harm. And if they have, say COPD (4-6%) or asthma (much more prevalent). The twats shouldn’t be smoking in the toilets either.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Jul 28, 2022 4:53:41 GMT
out of the way of what? A bit of smoke? The youths having fags in the toilets cause more harm. And if they have, say COPD (4-6%) or asthma (much more prevalent). The twats shouldn’t be smoking in the toilets either. Don’t think anyone smokes in the toilet now they let you outside at most grounds
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 28, 2022 4:57:53 GMT
Stoke equalise away at Luton, and some rat setting off a smoke bomb is supposed to ‘add to the atmosphere’. Then to justify it they show you a wall of flares at the Istanbul derby, like the two compare.
“How was the match today?”
“Brilliant. There was smoke”
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Post by hotpot on Jul 28, 2022 7:06:13 GMT
You do not invade the pitch unless you win promotion or the FA Cup ..... and only slow coppers should be permitted to detain beautiful nude women streakers ..
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Post by flea79 on Jul 28, 2022 8:05:12 GMT
So you and your mates don't give a shit about the elderly and the disabled who can't move away very easily when you set one off or people with breathing difficulties? Fuck the other 25,000 people as long as 5-10 chavs can have fun though eh? You and your mates sound like a lovely bunch of lads...sorry, i mean a group of utter juvenile pricks. Do they take jelly and ice cream too? P.S. as has aleeady been pointed out, it's not "sneaking into football". They've been banned for years already because a game of footy isn't just for you and your mates, it's for every person there who paid just as much as you to get in. for one I’m not a juvenile and I’m also not a prick. The same people moaning about smoke bombs are the same ones constantly moaning about the club and everything revolving us. You all just want something to moan about! ok lets say it from the moment you joined this forum you have had a thing about flares and the use of them that has shown an immature and juvenile outlook that most of us remember from our younger days you need too accept that some people are just not loving the pyro, personally i dont mind them but the difference is i resepect that to some folk they are dangerous and seeing a smoke bomb go off does not make my matchday experience. your arguing with some of the oldest posters on here who will argue back all day and most of the time win those arguments learn some respect for others and grow up or go back to instagram or snapchat or something
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Post by superpotter on Jul 28, 2022 8:38:04 GMT
for one I’m not a juvenile and I’m also not a prick. The same people moaning about smoke bombs are the same ones constantly moaning about the club and everything revolving us. You all just want something to moan about! ok lets say it from the moment you joined this forum you have had a thing about flares and the use of them that has shown an immature and juvenile outlook that most of us remember from our younger days you need too accept that some people are just not loving the pyro, personally i dont mind them but the difference is i resepect that to some folk they are dangerous and seeing a smoke bomb go off does not make my matchday experience. your arguing with some of the oldest posters on here who will argue back all day and most of the time win those arguments learn some respect for others and grow up or go back to instagram or snapchat or something
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Post by leicspotter on Jul 28, 2022 8:43:27 GMT
So you and your mates don't give a shit about the elderly and the disabled who can't move away very easily when you set one off or people with breathing difficulties? Fuck the other 25,000 people as long as 5-10 chavs can have fun though eh? You and your mates sound like a lovely bunch of lads...sorry, i mean a group of utter juvenile pricks. Do they take jelly and ice cream too? P.S. as has aleeady been pointed out, it's not "sneaking into football". They've been banned for years already because a game of footy isn't just for you and your mates, it's for every person there who paid just as much as you to get in. for one I’m not a juvenile and I’m also not a prick. The same people moaning about smoke bombs are the same ones constantly moaning about the club and everything revolving us. You all just want something to moan about! Sadly, you ARE the things you say you are not, and you constantly prove it on here.
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Post by superpotter on Jul 28, 2022 8:47:26 GMT
for one I’m not a juvenile and I’m also not a prick. The same people moaning about smoke bombs are the same ones constantly moaning about the club and everything revolving us. You all just want something to moan about! ok lets say it from the moment you joined this forum you have had a thing about flares and the use of them that has shown an immature and juvenile outlook that most of us remember from our younger days you need too accept that some people are just not loving the pyro, personally i dont mind them but the difference is i resepect that to some folk they are dangerous and seeing a smoke bomb go off does not make my matchday experience. your arguing with some of the oldest posters on here who will argue back all day and most of the time win those arguments learn some respect for others and grow up or go back to instagram or snapchat or something I’m a new poster on here been going Stoke since a kid now take my son , I really don’t get it , the negatives of pyros / smoke bombs far outweigh the positives . It doesn’t create an atmosphere it just makes people nervous and could ruin someone’s day, and no I’m not miserable old git or a killjoy, just want a safe enjoyable day out for myself and family watching football 👍
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Post by flea79 on Jul 28, 2022 9:02:32 GMT
ok lets say it from the moment you joined this forum you have had a thing about flares and the use of them that has shown an immature and juvenile outlook that most of us remember from our younger days you need too accept that some people are just not loving the pyro, personally i dont mind them but the difference is i resepect that to some folk they are dangerous and seeing a smoke bomb go off does not make my matchday experience. your arguing with some of the oldest posters on here who will argue back all day and most of the time win those arguments learn some respect for others and grow up or go back to instagram or snapchat or something I’m a new poster on here been going Stoke since a kid now take my son , I really don’t get it , the negatives of pyros / smoke bombs far outweigh the positives . It doesn’t create an atmosphere it just makes people nervous and could ruin someone’s day, and no I’m not miserable old git or a killjoy, just want a safe enjoyable day out for myself and family watching football 👍 i get it and love seeing the effect of them at night games in europe when hundreds are lit and love the look of them but thats not the english culture and never has been at Peterborough last year some kids let them off in the bar we were all in and next thing we are on the street, it spoilt what was a great afternoon its about respect for others and thats all
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Post by daz2631 on Jul 28, 2022 9:15:08 GMT
I work away turnstiles and can say we had flares/smoke bombs at 80% of the games last season in the concourse. We always shut the turnstiles it is always young pricks who think it's fun and adds to the atmosphere but in an enclosed space its horrendous it needs stopping.
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Post by fca47 on Jul 28, 2022 9:36:05 GMT
They look good but they're dangerous, I wonder what should take precedence.
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Post by skemstokie on Jul 28, 2022 10:20:22 GMT
So you and your mates don't give a shit about the elderly and the disabled who can't move away very easily when you set one off or people with breathing difficulties? Fuck the other 25,000 people as long as 5-10 chavs can have fun though eh? You and your mates sound like a lovely bunch of lads...sorry, i mean a group of utter juvenile pricks. Do they take jelly and ice cream too? P.S. as has aleeady been pointed out, it's not "sneaking into football". They've been banned for years already because a game of footy isn't just for you and your mates, it's for every person there who paid just as much as you to get in. for one I’m not a juvenile and I’m also not a prick. The same people moaning about smoke bombs are the same ones constantly moaning about the club and everything revolving us. You all just want something to moan about! May i suggest if you object to being called a juvenile and a prick you stop condoning the actions of juveniles and pricks, just a hunch but it might work.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jul 28, 2022 10:25:26 GMT
I think I also read the FA are trying to cut out the post match pitch invasion which has become de rigeur after all play off matches across the divisions.I guess it's increasingly a generation who don't remember the fences coming down and how fans were put on trust not to abuse it. Not really going to effect us then ...
Cant beat a bit of gallows humour.....( doffs cap)
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Post by dutchstokie on Jul 28, 2022 10:29:22 GMT
No pyro no party, wank decision made by absolute snowflakes❄️ loads of mates I know will set them off this season, everyone gets hurt and offended by everything nowadays and it’s now sneaking into football, it’s a flare not a bomb ffs If youre lucky enough you might get a lit one jammed up your anus...... Enjoy !
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Post by skemstokie on Jul 28, 2022 10:33:51 GMT
loads of mates I know will set them off this season, everyone gets hurt and offended by everything nowadays and it’s now sneaking into football, it’s a flare not a bomb ffs If youre lucky enough you might get a lit one jammed up your anus...... Enjoy ! Perfect example of someone getting it in the end
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Post by Scouse on Jul 28, 2022 11:31:41 GMT
If any teen / early twenties are reading this .. don’t be the fall guy for others ..you don’t need to prove yourself to anyone or do anything to be accepted ..if coerced ..walk away
The rules ( indeed they’re stronger than that they’re laws of the land supported by the courts ) and consequences of ignoring are clear , as are the risks of being caught either at the time or later due to cctv , face recognition technology
if you’re handed one by a mate ..he’s not your mate , he just doesn’t want to be caught himself , he couldn’t give a toss about you , it’s his own back he’s covering .. love the club , love going the game .. get caught with one or letting one off and you can say cheerio to all that .and .if it goes to court , which it’s highly likely to ( clubs are under pressure to sort it out ) you’ll be lucky if it doesn’t severely impact on your job prospects
Im not a killjoy far from it .. but you’ve heard the arguments for and against ..the trouble is any arguments in favour of pyros hold no sway in the courts or if the club decide find you ..and you can bet they’ll do their best to find you ..is it really worth the risk?
So don’t be the mug and don’t be the fall guy for others purportedly being your mates
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 28, 2022 11:39:50 GMT
Literally called a smoke bomb doesn’t quite blow your arm off though, people on here seem to think so though! Serious question for you. If they’re harmless and only a bit of smoke, why do you think they’re banned?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jul 28, 2022 11:46:25 GMT
doesn’t quite blow your arm off though, people on here seem to think so though! Serious question for you. If they’re harmless and only a bit of smoke, why do you think they’re banned? Or indeed, why does just a bit of smoke actually create an atmosphere? "This game is typical boring,dross....hang on,there's a bit of red smoke over in that corner. Well that's changed things, now i'm absolutely buzzing, what a day!!" I don't think it's any coincedence that you don't tend to see groups of adults without kids wandering around on bonfire night getting all hyped over sparklers. And why is that? Because the fascination and excitement of "Oooh firey, sparkly, shiny burny thing" tends to be something most grow out of after about the age of 8.
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