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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 29, 2022 20:41:09 GMT
No offence mate but I’ll listen to experts on the matter not folk expressing opinions on a football message board He is however, explaining his reasons for his opinion in an eloquent manner. Where as you just shut people down because you’ve allowed yourself to be indoctrinated by the media. I know the poster and his reasons because I’ve spoke to him personally on the matter.
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Post by callas12 on Jan 29, 2022 20:41:32 GMT
Each to their own & I respect your opinion. All I will say is don't be totally blinkered when the 'experts' at the WHO & Govt scientists for eg are giving out advice. Sadly they have form for giving out mixed and narrative driven advice. Afterall, you could listen to 10 Dr's or Scientist giving one lot of advice. & another 10 Dr's and Scientists saying the opposite. I try to listen to all the information available and make my own choices and opinions from that I’m not blinkered in the slightest mate You'll be telling me you believe Boris hasn't been having parties at No 10 next 😉🤣
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 29, 2022 20:43:09 GMT
I’m not blinkered in the slightest mate You'll be telling me you believe Boris hasn't been having parties at No 10 next 😉🤣 Can’t stand the bloke mate,utter scumbag along with his cabinet. I trust people like JVT absolutely
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 29, 2022 20:46:30 GMT
He is however, explaining his reasons for his opinion in an eloquent manner. Where as you just shut people down because you’ve allowed yourself to be indoctrinated by the media. I know the poster and his reasons because I’ve spoke to him personally on the matter. Sorry 🙄
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 29, 2022 20:47:07 GMT
I know the poster and his reasons because I’ve spoke to him personally on the matter. Sorry 🙄 No problem mate👍
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 29, 2022 20:48:24 GMT
I’m not blinkered in the slightest mate You'll be telling me you believe Boris hasn't been having parties at No 10 next 😉🤣 How’s your mate by the way?He sounded hoarse last night on the radio🤔unduly negative I thought
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 29, 2022 20:48:59 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 29, 2022 20:49:31 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 29, 2022 20:51:44 GMT
No. You’re more likely to have heart issues if you have covid than the jab. 🤦♂️ Yep, they don't get much fitter and healthier than Alphonso Davies and he's out for at least a month with heart issues after contracting COVID. I read something link you’re 8 more times more likely to develop something like that after having covid. There is a risk of it from the jab but not to the degree there is with the actual disease itself. So when you have 500,000 a week (being conservative) still catching it then it makes sense.
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Post by callas12 on Jan 29, 2022 20:59:23 GMT
I do hope I'm wrong and that it's all purely coincidental but sadly from personal experiences I just don't think it's unrelated. I've remained open minded throughout and I'm certainly not anti vaccine or a non covid thinker (I've had it again these last 2x weeks & had it back in March 2020 when it all began so can vouch of its existence for sure!)
Ive had the first two vaccines as we were promised that's all we'd need but I drew the line at having a third jab within 12mths of having the first two, for the medical related reasons you know about aswell as the forceful ways the 'booster'jabs were being thrust on people. I know people who've had 3 jabs and it hasn't prevented them getting Covid again, some been poorly with it some haven't. So having a third jab certainly doesn't stop someone spreading it as was at one point being championed by the experts.
One thing is for sure, the Covid pandemic and its associated treatments and restrictions such as mask wearing and mandatory vaccines for certain sectors have been devisive and the true reality is none of us know where it came from, how it affects people worse than others or what the full long term scale effevts of the illness itself, vaccines and mental toll it taken on people of all walks of life will be going forward. The Govt have definitely divided and conquered along the way aswell & sadly its worked, the COVID thread on the EE page is proof of that.
The sooner we're all just chatting & debating all things SCFC the better for me..
I'll leave it at that..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 21:01:40 GMT
Am waiting until Christopher 'Lukewarm' Biggins gives his opinion on social media until I decide what is what
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Post by callas12 on Jan 29, 2022 21:07:36 GMT
You'll be telling me you believe Boris hasn't been having parties at No 10 next 😉🤣 How’s your mate by the way?He sounded hoarse last night on the radio🤔unduly negative I thought I didn't hear him last night actually. Surprised he was negative after last nights performance, we were far better than we were in the Coventry game I thought. You know him, he's rarely happy! Guessing you've heard of his current medical status (on this topic 🙄😬!) As for my other mate, he's survived the initial scare however is still in hospital and has been since November and will be for the foreseeable. Sadly watching Stoke will be a hope more than a given as things stand. I managed to video call him yday for the first time since the incident that hospitalised him and I told him he hasn't been missing much regarding SCFC!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 29, 2022 21:12:21 GMT
How’s your mate by the way?He sounded hoarse last night on the radio🤔unduly negative I thought I didn't hear him last night actually. Surprised he was negative after last nights performance, we were far better than we were in the Coventry game I thought. You know him, he's rarely happy! Guessing you've heard of his current medical status (on this topic 🙄😬!) As for my other mate, he's survived the initial scare however is still in hospital and has been since November and will be for the foreseeable. Sadly watching Stoke will be a hope more than a given as things stand. I managed to video call him yday for the first time since the incident that hospitalised him and I told him he hasn't been missing much regarding SCFC! Yes I had a word with him before the Preston/Fulham game(can’t remember which).Sad to hear that about your mate 🤞for him
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Post by Davef on Jan 29, 2022 21:19:46 GMT
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Post by callas12 on Jan 29, 2022 21:22:04 GMT
I didn't hear him last night actually. Surprised he was negative after last nights performance, we were far better than we were in the Coventry game I thought. You know him, he's rarely happy! Guessing you've heard of his current medical status (on this topic 🙄😬!) As for my other mate, he's survived the initial scare however is still in hospital and has been since November and will be for the foreseeable. Sadly watching Stoke will be a hope more than a given as things stand. I managed to video call him yday for the first time since the incident that hospitalised him and I told him he hasn't been missing much regarding SCFC! Yes I had a word with him before the Preston/Fulham game(can’t remember which).Sad to hear that about your mate 🤞for him Cheers mate. He was definitely a Christmas miracle, at one stage with his deteriorating condition and Medical advice we were loosely planning to put his picture on the memorial board v PNE but he miraculously pulled through just prior to Christmas. & whilst doing amazingly to be where he's currently at, he's definitely got a long road ahead of him on the recovery front. But fact he's still here is the main & most important bonus right now.
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Post by GoBoks on Jan 29, 2022 21:25:47 GMT
No. You’re more likely to have heart issues if you have covid than the jab. 🤦♂️ We’re all fucked then cus the vast majority of people have had or will have both. So they say. I can only speak for my small sphere of influence, but my guess is 10-15% of the people in my family/friends/coworkers have been "vaccinated". In a group of about 30-40 people, only 2 have actually caught Covid and both recovered quickly.
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Post by GoBoks on Jan 29, 2022 21:32:42 GMT
Not at all. Purely highlighting how people who have opinions on the current state of play in the world get shot down if it doesn't fit other people's narratives. My retort was in reply to your Dr Lee Johnson comment, exactly highlighting the point I am making! Johnson was expressing an/his opinion and your reply proved my point! I think with all the scaremongering LJ should have kept quiet. I did enjoy Eric Clapton talking re the vaccine. A man who injected so much shite into his veins over the years talking about a medically approved drug and the issues with it. Next week Iggy Pop discusses obesity Can't agree with your first sentence. Freedom of speech and all, but hundred percent agree with the logic behind some people's choices. Allowing anything to be injected into your body that either does not have sufficient data on complications (including Covid shots) or known negative impact (including acid) is just daft. My own favorite horse to flog ... If the world had spent one tenth of what the ludicrous Covid response has cost, on lowering obesity, I firmly believe the number of lives saved would have been exponentially higher.
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Post by teenagefanclub on Jan 29, 2022 21:37:51 GMT
Thoughts are with Paul's family and friends RIP Paul
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Post by musik on Jan 29, 2022 21:41:52 GMT
Six medical emergencies in England this season in the crowd, according to swedish news.
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Post by callas12 on Jan 29, 2022 21:54:11 GMT
www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/huddersfield-town-issue-statement-after-22916598Hadn't realised there was a supporter taken ill at last night's match also 😲 ! Avoiding labouring the point of the potential Covid/Vax links, the frequency that its happening is genuinely becoming a concern. I know heart attacks at footy matches have happened for years but it sure seems like one is occuring once or twice a week now and it's never been that bad before. Infact the only one I ever remember happening live at a game was at Ashton Gate v Bristol City during the Pulis era in their old stand that's recently been re-built. Recall the game continued on whilst the medics were working on the guy before he was taken away. Can't 100% remember the outcome but I'm sure I remember hearing afterwards that he had passed away. I know my bro has performed CPR on an old guy outside Villa Park who was having a heart attack in the car park after a match a good few years ago now. & only in the last month or so some of our very own Oatcakers carried out CPR on the pathway outside the BET365 after a supporter became ill following a match. Something is clearly happening on a match day to cause these serious medical episodes as sadly they are becoming the norm now. Something surrounding the occasion of a footy match whether it be the tension/excitement/heightened emotions could be triggering these issues. I suppose if someone is to fall ill with a serious condition there are worse places for that to happen than at a football ground. Firstly there's plenty of folk around to ask for help, most grounds now even grass roots grounds contain Defib machines. & the amount of on and off duty medical staff that are attending the match itself at least gives someone a fighting chance of getting good expert medical care in a relatively short amount of time. & as we know there's always Ambulances already on site at majority of matches these days aswell. I saw that an off duty Dr who gave assistance to the Newcastle Utd fan who had a heart attack in the stands at St James Park a few months back was working as a medic on the Middlesbrough bench at an away game at Blackburn midweek just gone and he assisted the Blackburn fan who having a medical episode behind the dugouts. Strange times indeed, whatever the causations may be.
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Post by callas12 on Jan 29, 2022 21:59:42 GMT
Six medical emergencies in England this season in the crowd, according to swedish news. Sure theres definitely been more than six mate. There was four today at the Fulham, Oldham, Wycombe and Bradford matches. One midweek in the Blackburn v Boro match. www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/wycombe-fulham-oldham-bradford-efl-b2003455.htmlWas one last night at our match I've just read about. There was definitely the first high profile one at the Newcastle Utd v Spurs game. There has definitely been others in the last few weeks that without researching I can't recall. Watford Vicarage Road has definitely had two on separate match occasions.
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Post by a on Jan 29, 2022 22:00:47 GMT
The data will be preventes from ever being released. Ey? Makes no sense sorry.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 29, 2022 22:00:56 GMT
Six medical emergencies in England this season in the crowd, according to swedish news. This weekend more like!
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Post by a on Jan 29, 2022 22:01:25 GMT
Ah so people can't have opinions unless their Dr's or Scientists now?! Now that is fitting the narrative line! They’re* Probably best left to the medical profession.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 22:01:45 GMT
Absolutely nothing to do with a vaccine that was rushed at. Not at all.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 29, 2022 22:03:35 GMT
Absolutely nothing to do with a vaccine that was rushed at. Not at all. I mean the disease it works against is proven to increase peoples likelihood of heart troubles but yeah it’s the vaccine first and foremost. 🤦♂️
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Post by a on Jan 29, 2022 22:03:54 GMT
RIP. Best thing to do is certainly not to hijack his death to propagate your own Covid agenda. That is just disgusting.
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Post by callas12 on Jan 29, 2022 22:06:57 GMT
RIP. Best thing to do is certainly not to hijack his death to propagate your own Covid agenda. That is just disgusting. I don't think he's done that in the slightest. It simply highlighted what the outcome of today's medical emergency was and it ties in the OP's initial thread. Davef never mentioned a covid link, you however have
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 22:12:15 GMT
Absolutely nothing to do with a vaccine that was rushed at. Not at all. I mean the disease it works against is proven to increase peoples likelihood of heart troubles but yeah it’s the vaccine first and foremost. 🤦♂️ Quite right. I mean it's not like it's affected women getting pregnant and caused blood clots or anything like that.
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Post by Davef on Jan 29, 2022 22:14:05 GMT
RIP. Best thing to do is certainly not to hijack his death to propagate your own Covid agenda. That is just disgusting. Eh?
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