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Post by J-Roar on Jan 29, 2022 19:18:11 GMT
I'm convinced its a combination of both the Vaccines and Covid itself but more so the vaccines affecting people's blood flow when it comes to heart and brain processes. The amount of heart and brain related illness have definitely risen and are more prominent of late. I'm sure all will come out in the wash at some point I know what you mean. You rarely heard of people having heart attacks a couple of years ago. Now it's ten a penny.
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Post by Silkystoke on Jan 29, 2022 19:20:45 GMT
Happened here in France as well… heart attacks, in and outside the ground
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 19:20:57 GMT
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Post by callas12 on Jan 29, 2022 19:22:24 GMT
Ah so people can't have opinions unless their Dr's or Scientists now?! Now that is fitting the narrative line!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 29, 2022 19:23:01 GMT
Hopefully it’s not Dr Adam Johnson👀
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 19:24:04 GMT
Ah so people can't have opinions unless their Dr's or Scientists now?! Now that is fitting the narrative line! To be fair Callas a bit of a daft opinion but as you say. Not really helping the current way of some thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 19:25:13 GMT
Ah so people can't have opinions unless their Dr's or Scientists now?! Now that is fitting the narrative line! Of course they can, what a daft retort. You posted that link as if to back up your theory that the vaccine and covid have increased the risk of serious heart disease.
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Post by callas12 on Jan 29, 2022 19:29:02 GMT
Ah so people can't have opinions unless their Dr's or Scientists now?! Now that is fitting the narrative line! Of course they can, what a daft retort. You posted that link as if to back up your theory that the vaccine and covid have increased the risk of serious heart disease. Not at all. Purely highlighting how people who have opinions on the current state of play in the world get shot down if it doesn't fit other people's narratives. My retort was in reply to your Dr Lee Johnson comment, exactly highlighting the point I am making! Johnson was expressing an/his opinion and your reply proved my point!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 29, 2022 19:33:08 GMT
I think the word COULD says it all mate
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Post by salfordstokie on Jan 29, 2022 19:33:15 GMT
Never happened this frequently before. Almost every week. I wonder what could have been rolled out in the last 12 months which might be a cause....? Well done to Lee Johnson for being brave enough to hint at the truth.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 29, 2022 19:34:26 GMT
Never happened this frequently before. Almost every week. I wonder what could have been rolled out in the last 12 months which might be a cause....? Well done to Lee Johnson for being brave enough to hint at the truth. Christ they’re all out tonight🤣Had your jab yet or still running?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 19:34:57 GMT
Of course they can, what a daft retort. You posted that link as if to back up your theory that the vaccine and covid have increased the risk of serious heart disease. Not at all. Purely highlighting how people who have opinions on the current state of play in the world get shot down if it doesn't fit other people's narratives. My retort was in reply to your Dr Lee Johnson comment, exactly highlighting the point I am making! Johnson was expressing an/his opinion and your reply proved my point! Lee Johnson hasn't got the first clue what he's talking about when it comes to that subject, so his opinion is up for ridicule in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 19:37:02 GMT
Of course they can, what a daft retort. You posted that link as if to back up your theory that the vaccine and covid have increased the risk of serious heart disease. Not at all. Purely highlighting how people who have opinions on the current state of play in the world get shot down if it doesn't fit other people's narratives. My retort was in reply to your Dr Lee Johnson comment, exactly highlighting the point I am making! Johnson was expressing an/his opinion and your reply proved my point! I think with all the scaremongering LJ should have kept quiet. I did enjoy Eric Clapton talking re the vaccine. A man who injected so much shite into his veins over the years talking about a medically approved drug and the issues with it. Next week Iggy Pop discusses obesity
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Post by salfordstokie on Jan 29, 2022 19:47:49 GMT
Never happened this frequently before. Almost every week. I wonder what could have been rolled out in the last 12 months which might be a cause....? Well done to Lee Johnson for being brave enough to hint at the truth. Christ they’re all out tonight🤣Had your jab yet or still running? Nope. Still got your head in the sand??
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 29, 2022 19:48:39 GMT
Christ they’re all out tonight🤣Had your jab yet or still running? Nope. Still got your head in the sand?? What along with the majority of the UK🤣deluded
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Post by salfordstokie on Jan 29, 2022 19:51:25 GMT
Nope. Still got your head in the sand?? What along with the majority of the UK🤣deluded Well, to be honest, most of the UK have got their head in the sand.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 20:01:17 GMT
See what's happened here. Th medical experts have awoken with their knowledge of vaccines. Your fault Badgo. Can we just introduce them to the injury and fitness experts preferably by the Stanley Matthews statue?
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Post by lee1982 on Jan 29, 2022 20:18:01 GMT
The replies on this post kind of some up the current problems. Nobody wants to listen to another point of view or opinion. Lee Johnson is clearly not a doctor, but im pretty sure he has many medically qualified personnel in and around him on a daily basis.
If people dont feel like the current situation is somewhat out of the ordinary as far as the amount of players and fans falling ill is concerning then that is a problem in itself.
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Post by Davef on Jan 29, 2022 20:19:23 GMT
Johnson's actual quote is: "It seems to happen a lot after these injections or Covid. The weighting would be on Covid but you can't rule out, I suppose, vaccination".
I'm not entirely sure what is so controversial about that considering that both the BHF and the CDC have acknowledged that an albeit rare side effect of the vaccine is myocarditis in young men.
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Post by madnellie on Jan 29, 2022 20:21:46 GMT
Could it be the lethal 💉 These are just the on show public ones but I'm sure you can rely on the government and BBC to keep you in the picture so not to worry No. You’re more likely to have heart issues if you have covid than the jab. 🤦♂️ Yep, they don't get much fitter and healthier than Alphonso Davies and he's out for at least a month with heart issues after contracting COVID.
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Post by madnellie on Jan 29, 2022 20:25:20 GMT
Unusually for the Mail that's a really misleading headline though Cal. Within the story itself it repeatedly states he likely developed the heart issue from contracting COVID rather than a side effect of the vaccine.
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Post by callas12 on Jan 29, 2022 20:26:52 GMT
Never happened this frequently before. Almost every week. I wonder what could have been rolled out in the last 12 months which might be a cause....? Well done to Lee Johnson for being brave enough to hint at the truth. Christ they’re all out tonight🤣Had your jab yet or still running? Everyones entitled to express their opinions. No-one has to be medically qualified or scientifically trained if they happen to question why the rates of heart attacks,clots and strokes have rocketed up?! You know exactly why I've got the opinions I have on this matter from close personal experience.. You're a believer & advocate of vaccines, no issues with that or anyone else who does. I just happen to not trust the Prime Minister, Govt and their team of 'experts' and would rather trust my own judgement from what I've seen and heard. The initial post Questioned if there has been an increase in these 'medical emergency incidents', I believe there has and expressed that opinion. Nothing more to it than that really
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 29, 2022 20:28:03 GMT
Christ they’re all out tonight🤣Had your jab yet or still running? Everyones entitled to express their opinions. No-one has to be medically qualified or scientifically trained if they happen to question why the rates of heart attacks,clots and strokes have rocketed up?! You know exactly why I've got the opinions I have on this matter from close personal experience.. You're a believer & advocate of vaccines, no issues with that or anyone else who does. I just happen to not trust the Prime Minister, Govt and their team of 'experts' and would rather trust my own judgement from what I've seen and heard. The initial post Questioned if there has been an increase in these 'medical emergency incidents', I believe there has and expressed that opinion. Nothing more to it than that really Perfectly put mate👍🏻
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Post by callas12 on Jan 29, 2022 20:30:04 GMT
Unusually for the Mail that's a really misleading headline though Cal. Within the story itself it repeatedly states he likely developed the heart issue from contracting COVID rather than a side effect of the vaccine. Totally agree, I think folk have suffered heart related issues as a result of the vaccine and also covid itself. Really think it'll be years down the line before the true effects and costs of covid and it associated treatments will be unearthed or reported on.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 29, 2022 20:30:12 GMT
Christ they’re all out tonight🤣Had your jab yet or still running? Everyones entitled to express their opinions. No-one has to be medically qualified or scientifically trained if they happen to question why the rates of heart attacks,clots and strokes have rocketed up?! You know exactly why I've got the opinions I have on this matter from close personal experience.. You're a believer & advocate of vaccines, no issues with that or anyone else who does. I just happen to not trust the Prime Minister, Govt and their team of 'experts' and would rather trust my own judgement from what I've seen and heard. The initial post Questioned if there has been an increase in these 'medical emergency incidents', I believe there has and expressed that opinion. Nothing more to it than that really No offence mate but I’ll listen to experts on the matter not folk expressing opinions on a football message board
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Post by Northy on Jan 29, 2022 20:34:12 GMT
Could? - "Johnson then slightly retracted his views, admitting it is 'probably the Covid' that has caused the issue." Lots of people have had long covid lung problems, it affects many organs
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Post by callas12 on Jan 29, 2022 20:38:44 GMT
Everyones entitled to express their opinions. No-one has to be medically qualified or scientifically trained if they happen to question why the rates of heart attacks,clots and strokes have rocketed up?! You know exactly why I've got the opinions I have on this matter from close personal experience.. You're a believer & advocate of vaccines, no issues with that or anyone else who does. I just happen to not trust the Prime Minister, Govt and their team of 'experts' and would rather trust my own judgement from what I've seen and heard. The initial post Questioned if there has been an increase in these 'medical emergency incidents', I believe there has and expressed that opinion. Nothing more to it than that really No offence mate but I’ll listen to experts on the matter not folk expressing opinions on a football message board Each to their own & I respect your opinion. All I will say is don't be totally blinkered when the 'experts' at the WHO & Govt scientists for eg are giving out advice. Sadly they have form for giving out mixed and narrative driven advice. Afterall, you could listen to 10 Dr's or Scientist giving one lot of advice. & another 10 Dr's and Scientists saying the opposite. I try to listen to all the information available and make my own choices and opinions from that
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 29, 2022 20:38:53 GMT
Everyones entitled to express their opinions. No-one has to be medically qualified or scientifically trained if they happen to question why the rates of heart attacks,clots and strokes have rocketed up?! You know exactly why I've got the opinions I have on this matter from close personal experience.. You're a believer & advocate of vaccines, no issues with that or anyone else who does. I just happen to not trust the Prime Minister, Govt and their team of 'experts' and would rather trust my own judgement from what I've seen and heard. The initial post Questioned if there has been an increase in these 'medical emergency incidents', I believe there has and expressed that opinion. Nothing more to it than that really No offence mate but I’ll listen to experts on the matter not folk expressing opinions on a football message board He is however, explaining his reasons for his opinion in an eloquent manner. Where as you just shut people down because you’ve allowed yourself to be indoctrinated by the media.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 29, 2022 20:39:42 GMT
No offence mate but I’ll listen to experts on the matter not folk expressing opinions on a football message board Each to their own & I respect your opinion. All I will say is don't be totally blinkered when the 'experts' at the WHO & Govt scientists for eg are giving out advice. Sadly they have form for giving out mixed and narrative driven advice. Afterall, you could listen to 10 Dr's or Scientist giving one lot of advice. & another 10 Dr's and Scientists saying the opposite. I try to listen to all the information available and make my own choices and opinions from that I’m not blinkered in the slightest mate
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Post by callas12 on Jan 29, 2022 20:40:50 GMT
Each to their own & I respect your opinion. All I will say is don't be totally blinkered when the 'experts' at the WHO & Govt scientists for eg are giving out advice. Sadly they have form for giving out mixed and narrative driven advice. Afterall, you could listen to 10 Dr's or Scientist giving one lot of advice. & another 10 Dr's and Scientists saying the opposite. I try to listen to all the information available and make my own choices and opinions from that I’m not blinkered in the slightest mate Very unaccepting of people who don't 100% trust the vaccines tho
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