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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 20, 2022 17:23:23 GMT
Didn't Davies take over from Butland when Jack was having a very bad spell, and I seem to recall that Adam arrived in the team to great acclaim , and was a revelation with some very assured and competent displays. Everyone seemed happy with him then. Hardly a revelation. He was steady away, didn't make massive howlers but equally he barely had a save to make. If he was any good he'd have played long before he did, so bad was Butlands form at the time. He played only when the manager really had no choice but to bring him in. It really could have been anyone. He had 8 clean sheets in 17 games. I’m sure he faced more than “barely a save” in 17 games to be honest. He isn’t in the same form now, that’s true, but he was doing well beforehand. In fact, when he got injured, Gunn came in and made howlers, then he got injured and we had to sit back deep to use Bursik, who shot stopping was less than average at that time.
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 20, 2022 18:14:48 GMT
Hardly a revelation. He was steady away, didn't make massive howlers but equally he barely had a save to make. If he was any good he'd have played long before he did, so bad was Butlands form at the time. He played only when the manager really had no choice but to bring him in. It really could have been anyone. He had 8 clean sheets in 17 games. I’m sure he faced more than “barely a save” in 17 games to be honest. He isn’t in the same form now, that’s true, but he was doing well beforehand. In fact, when he got injured, Gunn came in and made howlers, then he got injured and we had to sit back deep to use Bursik, who shot stopping was less than average at that time. I love how the (very weak) clean sheets thing seems to be the only argument anyone has for him being any good. I honestly think I’ve been more generous about what his actual strengths are (he’s good in 1 on 1s) and I think he’s an absolutely dreadful goalkeeper 😅
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Post by ceejays on Jan 20, 2022 18:22:11 GMT
Ultimately Bursik is our best keeper but atm Davies is our best keeper . Unfortunately he is quite a vocal chap
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 20, 2022 19:09:25 GMT
Didn't Davies take over from Butland when Jack was having a very bad spell, and I seem to recall that Adam arrived in the team to great acclaim , and was a revelation with some very assured and competent displays. Everyone seemed happy with him then. Hardly a revelation. He was steady away, didn't make massive howlers but equally he barely had a save to make. If he was any good he'd have played long before he did, so bad was Butlands form at the time. He played only when the manager really had no choice but to bring him in. It really could have been anyone. And I don’t think our goals against/chance ratio improved massively did it? I can only assume we just weren’t allowing so many chances.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 20, 2022 19:15:24 GMT
He had 8 clean sheets in 17 games. I’m sure he faced more than “barely a save” in 17 games to be honest. He isn’t in the same form now, that’s true, but he was doing well beforehand. In fact, when he got injured, Gunn came in and made howlers, then he got injured and we had to sit back deep to use Bursik, who shot stopping was less than average at that time. I love how the (very weak) clean sheets thing seems to be the only argument anyone has for him being any good. I honestly think I’ve been more generous about what his actual strengths are (he’s good in 1 on 1s) and I think he’s an absolutely dreadful goalkeeper 😅 Dreadful keeper who is decent in 1 v 1 situations is bang on.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jan 20, 2022 19:48:12 GMT
He had 8 clean sheets in 17 games. I’m sure he faced more than “barely a save” in 17 games to be honest. He isn’t in the same form now, that’s true, but he was doing well beforehand. In fact, when he got injured, Gunn came in and made howlers, then he got injured and we had to sit back deep to use Bursik, who shot stopping was less than average at that time. I love how the (very weak) clean sheets thing seems to be the only argument anyone has for him being any good. I honestly think I’ve been more generous about what his actual strengths are (he’s good in 1 on 1s) and I think he’s an absolutely dreadful goalkeeper 😅 Same old shit different day
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 20, 2022 20:01:47 GMT
He had 8 clean sheets in 17 games. I’m sure he faced more than “barely a save” in 17 games to be honest. He isn’t in the same form now, that’s true, but he was doing well beforehand. In fact, when he got injured, Gunn came in and made howlers, then he got injured and we had to sit back deep to use Bursik, who shot stopping was less than average at that time. I love how the (very weak) clean sheets thing seems to be the only argument anyone has for him being any good. I honestly think I’ve been more generous about what his actual strengths are (he’s good in 1 on 1s) and I think he’s an absolutely dreadful goalkeeper 😅 Over an extended period of time, it’s a good metric to judge a player by. If a striker wasn’t tearing up trees, but still scored 8 goals in 17 games, most would be pretty happy with his contributions overall as well.
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 20, 2022 20:23:25 GMT
I love how the (very weak) clean sheets thing seems to be the only argument anyone has for him being any good. I honestly think I’ve been more generous about what his actual strengths are (he’s good in 1 on 1s) and I think he’s an absolutely dreadful goalkeeper 😅 Over an extended period of time, it’s a good metric to judge a player by. If a striker wasn’t tearing up trees, but still scored 8 goals in 17 games, most would be pretty happy with his contributions overall as well. I don’t think they’re really analogous scenarios but yes, there’s context to consider in both cases and neither is sufficient to judge a player’s merits and performances on its own. But more so in the case of the goalkeeper normally.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 20, 2022 20:26:35 GMT
He’s been steady enough. Calmed things down when Butland was throwing them in, then when Bursik wobbled and the bloke from Southampton made him look like Gordon Banks. Not really arsed either way but I think he did a decent job.
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 20, 2022 20:27:05 GMT
I love how the (very weak) clean sheets thing seems to be the only argument anyone has for him being any good. I honestly think I’ve been more generous about what his actual strengths are (he’s good in 1 on 1s) and I think he’s an absolutely dreadful goalkeeper 😅 Same old shit different day Not though is it, it’s different shit. This shit isn’t about him being shit, it’s about the arguments for him being good (which are shit) 😇
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 20, 2022 20:32:32 GMT
Same old shit different day Not though is it, it’s different shit. This shit isn’t about him being shit, it’s about the arguments for him being good (which are shit) 😇 Presumably you’re talking about the ‘shit’ goalkeeper who almost single handedly won us three precious points at QPR?
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 20, 2022 20:41:09 GMT
I love how the (very weak) clean sheets thing seems to be the only argument anyone has for him being any good. I honestly think I’ve been more generous about what his actual strengths are (he’s good in 1 on 1s) and I think he’s an absolutely dreadful goalkeeper 😅 Dreadful keeper who is decent in 1 v 1 situations is bang on. and knows how to save a penalty
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 21, 2022 8:05:14 GMT
Dreadful keeper who is decent in 1 v 1 situations is bang on. and knows how to save a penalty How many has he saved? 1?
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 21, 2022 10:29:46 GMT
and knows how to save a penalty How many has he saved? 1? Blackpool shoot out, 2 there I think
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Post by lordb on Jan 21, 2022 12:06:11 GMT
and knows how to save a penalty How many has he saved? 1? saved a few for Barnsley we haven't had that many penalties given against us in last two seasons or for us for that matter only 4 in totals so far this season - none scored!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 21, 2022 22:54:19 GMT
How many has he saved? 1? Blackpool shoot out, 2 there I think Shoot outs don't count apparently. At least that was the barometer and comment re Butland and his penalty save at Stoke.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2022 23:31:54 GMT
Definitely don’t count.
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 21, 2022 23:48:31 GMT
How many has he saved? 1? saved a few for Barnsley we haven't had that many penalties given against us in last two seasons or for us for that matter only 4 in totals so far this season - none scored! Out of 30 penalties faced he has saved 7, so, basically around 24%. Not bad I suppose, certainly better than many others.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 22, 2022 14:05:06 GMT
Do we know if he’s injured or got covid?
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Post by sean on Jan 22, 2022 14:26:12 GMT
Do we know if he’s injured or got covid? Davies catch something that's got to be highly unlikely
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 22, 2022 14:33:06 GMT
He won't play for Stoke again.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 22, 2022 14:34:20 GMT
He won't play for Stoke again. Don’t curse it.
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Post by stokemark on Jan 22, 2022 17:20:44 GMT
He’s better than Bonham that’s for sure
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 22, 2022 17:22:59 GMT
Either Bursik is back for Tuesday (which I know he isn't) or Davies has to stay... As bad as he is he's better than league 2 Bonham
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Post by houstonsteve on Jan 22, 2022 17:30:18 GMT
hes 1000 or more times better then Bonham who is a rank flapper. Cannot for the life of me think why anyone at Stoke prefers Bonham over Davies. Another baffling decision that has cost us points.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jan 22, 2022 17:30:19 GMT
Either Bursik is back for Tuesday (which I know he isn't) or Davies has to stay... As bad as he is he's better than league 2 Bonham And what would you say if you were Davies “Up yours”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2022 17:33:51 GMT
He won't play for Stoke again. Don’t curse it. Big fan of Bonham?
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 22, 2022 17:41:37 GMT
Left out today as he's having a medical "with another team"
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 22, 2022 17:41:59 GMT
MON confirms Davies is leaving and having a medical somewhere. Said it frees up money for another signing. And Bursik only a week away. Exciting times.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 22, 2022 17:42:23 GMT
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