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Post by J-Roar on Jan 5, 2022 12:28:59 GMT
I’m off to AFC Fylde v York on Saturday, and their facilities and fan zone shame Stoke’s nuclear winter concourses. Fylde are a National League North club, so if they can do it, why not us? Perhaps the new CEO will have a bit more vision. The outgoing one couldn't even decide on contactless payment without a year long trial of it.
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Post by sd22 on Jan 5, 2022 13:25:51 GMT
Even two years ago, I used to come back after every game with a croaky voice from chanting. Haven’t had even the slightest of rasps this year. Dour atmosphere at present (and not what it was away either). We’ve gone from the loudest fans in the country, to challenging Arsenal for the ‘Stadium most likely to be mistaken for a library’ award.
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Post by jokker on Jan 5, 2022 13:31:17 GMT
Following Stoke away is like supporting a different club. The whole day is a polar opposite to a home game. We could make a mandatory excursion on matchdays to Grimsby then come back five minutes before the game starts and bring all the good atmosphere to the home fans (our mates).
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Post by thestatusquo on Jan 5, 2022 13:33:54 GMT
Can’t say I’m too bothered about things such as fan Zone’s etc. I go to see the football first and foremost which currently is enough to turn me to drink !!
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Post by thevoid on Jan 5, 2022 13:35:33 GMT
Just a matter of interest where would you people screaming for a fanzine actually set it up. Derby's is set up in a small corner of the executive car park - just a gazebo over the bar with an area around it for fans to stand, drink and talk. Nothing really happens it's just a focal point and somewhere to meet. Coventry have a memorial garden outside their ground which we could do round the Stanley Matthews statue with benches and flowers, just for those who want a quiet area to think of loved ones who no longer can go to matches. (It would also stop people getting off and on the coaches using those bushes to urinate as well). I also think that having things happening inside the ground on the big screens or the pitch might help move people on from the concourses which are so overcrowded that it is difficult for people with mobility issues to get from the turnstile to the gangways. Is there some regulation which says you can't show Sky on the big screens? We must pay for the licence to broadcast it because it's on in the concourse. Failing that what about setting up our own TV channel even if it's only shown at the ground showing interviews with players, supporters, explayers etc players arriving at the ground, even a glimpse into the changing rooms, recordings of the players training, competitions or quizzes. It seems to me the big screens as a form of entertainment is criminally underused before the match. As I said earlier in the thread when I arrived for the Derby game 45 minutes early absolutely nothing was happening on pitch side apart from watching the sprinklers. The sprinklers were better than the match in fairness. At least they moved.
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Post by skip on Jan 5, 2022 13:47:36 GMT
The whole matchday experience is probably completely different for the wealthy. I suspect it's equally as banal, just with better food and drink.
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Post by skip on Jan 5, 2022 14:00:40 GMT
100% agree with all of this they can only paint what is theirs, don't know if the tunnel is on SCFC land or not? however, anything that is their land they should so as much as possible even if it's as simple as painting stuff red & white we need a CEO who understands football We need a CEO who understands project management, brand identity, audience, social design, co-design, spatial engineering and marketing. Or heaven forfend, a small team of people who undertake this. I'd be well up for it, and halfway qualified and experienced. We're in 2022, and we have a club run by people who think novelty tat with the club crest stuck on and a grey meat pie served with a plastic spork are sufficient.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 5, 2022 14:32:25 GMT
There was no reaction from the Boothen on either occasion I was in the Boothen and honestly never heard it Very clear sat behind the dugouts
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 5, 2022 14:33:43 GMT
Yes I heard it mate on 2 occasions It happens every game, we cannot hear the boothen unless something controversial happens. Boothen, Boothen give us a song In all the years at the Brit/Bet365 that’s the first time I’ve ever heard it
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Post by pushon on Jan 5, 2022 14:52:36 GMT
Can’t say I’m too bothered about things such as fan Zone’s etc. I go to see the football first and foremost which currently is enough to turn me to drink !! I'll agree with this, I find it disappointing that many posters on here are semi-obsessed with drinking at the ground. "Turning to drink" is understandable currently but surely not at the ground on Match day. If alcohol consumption and scoffing doubtful-provenance fast food is the days highlight, then the club is indeed in a perilous state.
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Post by ladyinred on Jan 5, 2022 15:03:45 GMT
they can only paint what is theirs, don't know if the tunnel is on SCFC land or not? however, anything that is their land they should so as much as possible even if it's as simple as painting stuff red & white I presume the tunnel is council property as the mural of Ryan Shawcross that was painted on the entrance to it, was covered up with grey paint.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 5, 2022 20:05:03 GMT
Just a matter of interest where would you people screaming for a fanzine actually set it up. Derby's is set up in a small corner of the executive car park - just a gazebo over the bar with an area around it for fans to stand, drink and talk. Nothing really happens it's just a focal point and somewhere to meet. Coventry have a memorial garden outside their ground which we could do round the Stanley Matthews statue with benches and flowers, just for those who want a quiet area to think of loved ones who no longer can go to matches. (It would also stop people getting off and on the coaches using those bushes to urinate as well). I also think that having things happening inside the ground on the big screens or the pitch might help move people on from the concourses which are so overcrowded that it is difficult for people with mobility issues to get from the turnstile to the gangways. Is there some regulation which says you can't show Sky on the big screens? We must pay for the licence to broadcast it because it's on in the concourse. Failing that what about setting up our own TV channel even if it's only shown at the ground showing interviews with players, supporters, explayers etc players arriving at the ground, even a glimpse into the changing rooms, recordings of the players training, competitions or quizzes. It seems to me the big screens as a form of entertainment is criminally underused before the match. As I said earlier in the thread when I arrived for the Derby game 45 minutes early absolutely nothing was happening on pitch side apart from watching the sprinklers. I like the memorial garden idea and perhaps a trail that celebrates the club’s history more. I do feel that Stoke miss out on youth engagement as well. When I was a child, it was enough that my first clothes had Stoke badges on and that my Dad LOVES the club, but even I, nearing 30, had a lot fewer alternative distractions to enjoy than children do now. I honestly don’t know why Stoke don’t look to be more engaging online on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. Children use these platforms all the time, but they are not going to look at an account that barely even bothers to create news updates during a match. We have been a Premier League team for too long perhaps and have just come accustomed to the youth falling into Stoke as “the big club” in the area. However, Manchester and Liverpool are an hour or so away and in today’s connected world, I fear that the club doesn’t offer enough to keep the younger generation engaged locally.
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Post by Boothen on Jan 5, 2022 20:46:02 GMT
Boothen, Boothen give us a song No. Fuck off!
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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 5, 2022 21:07:12 GMT
Can’t say I’m too bothered about things such as fan Zone’s etc. I go to see the football first and foremost which currently is enough to turn me to drink !! I'll agree with this, I find it disappointing that many posters on here are semi-obsessed with drinking at the ground. "Turning to drink" is understandable currently but surely not at the ground on Match day. If alcohol consumption and scoffing doubtful-provenance fast food is the days highlight, then the club is indeed in a perilous state. I'm never going to the ground for a pre-match pint and to watch some shit penalty kick about. The ground can be bettered, but let's concentrate on the football first and foremost. We've lost 3 loan players and noone has come in their place. Let's give rhis squad a boost before we piss balls about with stadium events.
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 5, 2022 21:45:07 GMT
I'll agree with this, I find it disappointing that many posters on here are semi-obsessed with drinking at the ground. "Turning to drink" is understandable currently but surely not at the ground on Match day. If alcohol consumption and scoffing doubtful-provenance fast food is the days highlight, then the club is indeed in a perilous state. I'm never going to the ground for a pre-match pint and to watch some shit penalty kick about. The ground can be bettered, but let's concentrate on the football first and foremost. We've lost 3 loan players and noone has come in their place. Let's give rhis squad a boost before we piss balls about with stadium events. To be fair, they've already got you as a supporter. I agree that the best way to attract support is the team but there could be some other incentive to go. Other clubs are doing it, why is ours so different to them? The club has been badly run for supporters in all my time going. Even when we were successful we were an afterthought. I accept we've had the same season ticket prices for 12 years but that is about it. On the whole they know there is a core 12 to 15000 who will go come what may. The fact this number is starting to diminish due to the shit on and off the pitch doesn't seem to have occurred to the club.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Jan 6, 2022 1:55:02 GMT
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Post by ladyinred on Jan 6, 2022 8:57:43 GMT
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Post by theoptimist on Jan 6, 2022 11:11:36 GMT
I'll agree with this, I find it disappointing that many posters on here are semi-obsessed with drinking at the ground. "Turning to drink" is understandable currently but surely not at the ground on Match day. If alcohol consumption and scoffing doubtful-provenance fast food is the days highlight, then the club is indeed in a perilous state. I'm never going to the ground for a pre-match pint and to watch some shit penalty kick about. The ground can be bettered, but let's concentrate on the football first and foremost. We've lost 3 loan players and noone has come in their place. Let's give rhis squad a boost before we piss balls about with stadium events. Why is it an either/or? Cant we have BOTH? It's not like the person who organises matchday experience also manages footballing matters is it???
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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 6, 2022 14:01:11 GMT
I'm never going to the ground for a pre-match pint and to watch some shit penalty kick about. The ground can be bettered, but let's concentrate on the football first and foremost. We've lost 3 loan players and noone has come in their place. Let's give rhis squad a boost before we piss balls about with stadium events. Why is it an either/or? Cant we have BOTH? It's not like the person who organises matchday experience also manages footballing matters is it??? True enough, but if there is a sphere of control at the club, I'd prefer they focus on football improvement. Sure we can have both, football first though. I'm not convinced that 000s of people are going to turn up early because there's event however. Most people I go with have got used to there outlying areas pub visit. It would be impossible to change that right now.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 6, 2022 15:05:57 GMT
The problem is going to watch Stoke is not particularly an appetising experience and hasn't been for nearly five years. We have little direction, and the blame lies at the top.
It feels like some aspects are the bare minimum, reality is 2022 you have to engage with people, not just expect them to turn up regardless of the offer on the table.
There are things they can't control. The grounds location, the weather, injuries etc. But there are lots of tiny things that could be done.
If you don't make people excited to go and watch Stoke, what's stopping young people from supporting Man City/someone else/not getting into football?
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Post by stokeoptimist on Jan 6, 2022 16:18:11 GMT
Its a good job the supporters of the 70s, 80, 90s didnt have the same attitude. Some shocking football, shabby ground, cold, wet etc etc. Still managed to roar their team on regardless.
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Post by loosestools on Jan 6, 2022 18:15:30 GMT
In the 70's - Parking was crap, , bogs were dreadful, bobbys on horses knocking you around, standing only in the Boothen which was a bit scary sometimes, threat of violence before and after -BUT we had some great football, that's why we went! Talk about a matchday experience and fan zone - the Staff of Life or the Glebe were the best fan zone. I loved it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 18:57:36 GMT
In the 70's - Parking was crap, , bogs were dreadful, bobbys on horses knocking you around, standing only in the Boothen which was a bit scary sometimes, threat of violence before and after -BUT we had some great football, that's why we went! Talk about a matchday experience and fan zone - the Staff of Life or the Glebe were the best fan zone. I loved it. Staff of Life still is the best pub in Stoke on matchdays.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 26, 2022 17:01:29 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 26, 2022 17:09:34 GMT
Came across this earlier today🤔
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Post by citynickscfc on Jan 26, 2022 17:14:07 GMT
They don't care ... Plebs, that's us. What's all the fuss about, well, perhaps try asking us? Talking to us? Embracing us?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 13, 2022 9:06:18 GMT
Yesterday is a perfect example of a fantastic matchday experience in my opinion. From the minute we got in the ground the build up from Forest was excellent,music that was outstanding,videos on the big screen,total crowd involvement until the players ran out and then the whole home crowd singing their mist rolling in from the Trent. Outside on the banks of the Trent the buzz was brilliant with stalls selling scarves,badges and behind the Brian Clough Stand a fanzone.Have to say in the ground though I thought their vocal support was poor on the day. We could learn a lot from the way they involved their fans pre match for sure in my opinion
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 13, 2022 11:50:54 GMT
Mull of Kintyre sounds shit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2022 12:10:53 GMT
Fan zones, memorial parks etc Not a theme park.
Never understood this get as much drink down your neck, queue for a horrible pie you can buy in a petrol station if you can't go 2 hours without one etc
Will stick to my corned beef sandwich and can of Lilt
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Post by lordb on Feb 13, 2022 12:12:53 GMT
Mull of Kintyre sounds shit. It was bad enough at the time!
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