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Post by thevoid on Jan 2, 2022 15:44:03 GMT
Six years of utter dross, the fans have been beaten into submission. I've lost count of the times we've had to force ourselves to leave The Suth and trudge to the stadium. Despite being tempted to just stay in a warm pub with decent ale, you force yourself because that's basically what you went out for in the first place The worst part of a match day are 3-5pm which is pretty ironic when you think about it 🤦 Pretty true that. We always say more often than not the game spoils a good day out. Home or away. But I guess that’s what supporting a club like Stoke is all about. Away games are a completely different atmosphere for me, it's more of an 'event'. Meet up early, beers on the 'fun bus' and then a different town or city and various new pubs/bars to explore. Never underestimate the novelty of drinking in a town you wouldn't otherwise visit, even Peterborough feels like the Vegas Strip when you're on a session 😉
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Post by Timmy on Jan 2, 2022 16:02:56 GMT
Think the problem is we think we’re bigger than we are. No one complained when we were in the Prem and the atmosphere was amazing at times. Now them 12,000 or so part time supporters have disappeared we are what we are. Don’t know what the poster is expecting pre match and absolutely no idea after match !! We’re shit at home and away at the moment. Not really that good when we’re doing well in this division to be honest at home. The likes of Middlesbrough and Derby have way better fans than us. Middlesbrough took almost double what we took to Blackpool other night. This isn’t something that has just happened lately. It’s happened all down the years. Like I say we are what we are. Not that good really. But it’s our club. If you don’t like it Fcuk Off up the Vale 👍😉 Our problem is we don't have owners with real ambition and prepared to be ruthless to achieve their goals. I don't want foreign owners any more than anyone else, but you have to recognise that when they take over English clubs (or Welsh) they implement ambitious programmes to achieve success. Some fail, like Hull, but most succeed. Who Stoke appoint as CEO will speak volumes. Meanwhile we watch our peers like Wolves, West Brom, etc who go through difficult periods but pick themselves up. It's very simple really. You either get your finger out and turn things around and get back up like Norwich, West Brom, Watford, etc. or you slide down the league like former great clubs like Sunderland, Sheffield Wed, Ipswich, etc. As Leeds, Sheffield Utd, and others have demonstrated , it is possible to turn things round. It just needs the right people in charge. Our future is in the hands of the owners, who need to appoint competent CEO and manager. Agreed with the owners, ceo and #ambit10n. Even arnautovic called it out a few years back in our ambition season.
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Post by ab61 on Jan 2, 2022 16:12:52 GMT
They definitely 100% had more than us. I’ve seen photos of both followings. They got exactly the same allocation. 3/4 of the temporary stand. We didn’t fill 3/4 then. Someone has already said Boro took 5,000. We took less than three
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Post by thevoid on Jan 2, 2022 16:21:35 GMT
They got exactly the same allocation. 3/4 of the temporary stand. We didn’t fill 3/4 then. Someone has already said Boro took 5,000. We took less than three Boro fans have the filip of appointing a new manager who seems to be getting things going though. Wonder if they'd taken that amount under Warnock or Pulis?
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Post by chamberlain on Jan 2, 2022 16:49:11 GMT
Middlesbrough took 3,000 fans to Blackpool
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Post by loosestools on Jan 2, 2022 16:51:40 GMT
Try winning something - that might help.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2022 16:53:12 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 2, 2022 16:57:22 GMT
They got exactly the same allocation. 3/4 of the temporary stand. We didn’t fill 3/4 then. Someone has already said Boro took 5,000. We took less than three Did you not read my post🤔
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 17:05:25 GMT
The matchday experience is piss poor.
I've contacted the Supporters Council and club many times to improve things, but I've been fobbed off every time.
It's a tinpot "that'll do" mentality. We need a new culture installing at the club.
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Post by stokemark on Jan 2, 2022 17:48:54 GMT
We built a stadium on top of a hill in the middle of nowhere and whatever you do to dress that up we are stuck with it.
The situation now is just like it was 15 years ago - lack of atmosphere, empty seats and a general feeling of apathy and I believe that only a winning team or at least one that sets out to win and plays a bit of decent football will change that.
You can put lipstick on a pig (fanzones etc) but unless we see a change in direction at the top, a CEO / Director of Football who is truly a football strategist and a manager who is ambitious and driven to succeed then nothing will change, nothing.
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Post by ab61 on Jan 2, 2022 17:56:13 GMT
We didn’t fill 3/4 then. Someone has already said Boro took 5,000. We took less than three Did you not read my post🤔 Apologies. Got this one completely wrong
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 2, 2022 18:08:48 GMT
It feels like the club is drifting aimlessly into oblivion no leaders on the pitch or off the pitch as said above we will very soon be back to home crowds of 12k. We need a major change right from the top as the club needs to stop living in the 80s/90s we seem to be falling away rapidly. I found myself agreeing with the Derby fans singing your support is shit. Any neutral watching that would have thought Derby were the home team its sad to think how far we have fallen. As I’ve said before we have a competition on how long it takes away fans to sing that and the other night it was about 3/4 minutes which was pretty quick,it’s normally around the 9/10 minute mark We have a variation on that. How long to sing the holy trinity of 'I wanna go home' 'Is this a library' and 'Your support is fucking shit'. Fun times!
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Post by Scouse on Jan 2, 2022 18:35:22 GMT
I totally understand peoples desire to see the club push on and their frustration when it doesn’t happen
Have done my share of shouting for a managers head (Mills well before it became fashionable ..and been threatened for it ) taken more than the odd kicking , had a knife pulled on me 5 times at football and been stabbed twice ( once with Stoke , once with England ) not for looking for trouble , but simply for supporting my team ..long runs of not missing in times many would give a swerve to some of the places I’d roll up to each week without fail account for the gruesome stats.. ,but TBH as the years roll on ive become less demanding , more accepting of what , who and where we are .. I’ve still got certain expectations and standards , but on the basis that there is very little I can do other than turn up each week these days I try not get too stressed out with poor performances , results or individual players making mistakes .. of course they hurt , sometimes deeply , but prefer to lick my wounds quietly often alone
Apathetic , happy clapper ..I’m far from it ..
As regards atmosphere , good and bad and attendances in poor times compared to good .. it’s always been thus at Stoke ..we’re far from unique in that regard , but are the perfect example .. we can draw an additional 12-15,000 at home and another 3-5000 away ..but to do that circumstances have to be right .. to do it regularly as opposed to a select few fixtures things have to be really right
So I trot along , take what enjoyment I can from each game , even if that’s realising there’s two teams on the pitch not just us and just occasionally admiring or at least acknowledging decent play from the opposition ..life’s too short to be sour faced after every defeat or poor performance , it really is
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 2, 2022 18:57:25 GMT
They got exactly the same allocation. 3/4 of the temporary stand. We didn’t fill 3/4 then. Someone has already said Boro took 5,000. We took less than three I said we got the same allocation. They didn't take 5k so at best they took a couple hundred more than we did. I can't remember if we sold out or not but we were pretty close to doing so. Maybe they sold out and if they did they took around 3000.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Jan 2, 2022 20:33:02 GMT
I totally understand peoples desire to see the club push on and their frustration when it doesn’t happen Have done my share of shouting for a managers head (Mills well before it became fashionable ..and been threatened for it ) taken more than the odd kicking , had a knife pulled on me 5 times at football and been stabbed twice ( once with Stoke , once with England ) not for looking for trouble , but simply for supporting my team ..long runs of not missing in times many would give a swerve to some of the places I’d roll up to each week without fail account for the gruesome stats.. ,but TBH as the years roll on ive become less demanding , more accepting of what , who and where we are .. I’ve still got certain expectations and standards , but on the basis that there is very little I can do other than turn up each week these days I try not get too stressed out with poor performances , results or individual players making mistakes .. of course they hurt , sometimes deeply , but prefer to lick my wounds quietly often alone Apathetic , happy clapper ..I’m far from it .. As regards atmosphere , good and bad and attendances in poor times compared to good .. it’s always been thus at Stoke ..we’re far from unique in that regard , but are the perfect example .. we can draw an additional 12-15,000 at home and another 3-5000 away ..but to do that circumstances have to be right .. to do it regularly as opposed to a select few fixtures things have to be really right So I trot along , take what enjoyment I can from each game , even if that’s realising there’s two teams on the pitch not just us and just occasionally admiring or at least acknowledging decent play from the opposition ..life’s too short to be sour faced after every defeat or poor performance , it really is I know exactly what you mean. It’s called getting older.
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 2, 2022 22:55:54 GMT
We, (me and son) used Delilahs from 1997 to 2008. Used to love it to be honest. I think the club are missing a trick with it. There used to be ex players, current players popping in to chat,other celebrities, I remember Ted Hankey, that ginger ball juggling dude, Acres did his DJ spot alongside a quiz. Food avaliable, hot food that is. Potters TV on the big screen and tv's showing the weeks training and player profile spots, team sheets at 2.30, it was a decent way to kill two hours before and after games. With promotion we changed tack getting a coach to home games so I don't know how good or bad it is now but the last time we used it 3 years ago for a cup game it was poor. The club should really start to attract fans with other stuff on offer, its a great thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 23:02:37 GMT
I've contacted the Supporters Council and sent them the link to this thread.
They've said they will pass it onto the club.
My guess is comments such as "we'll look into it" or the club will "monitor the situation" will be thrown about and absolutely jack shit will be done about it.
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Post by meirman61 on Jan 3, 2022 0:01:36 GMT
As I’ve said before we have a competition on how long it takes away fans to sing that and the other night it was about 3/4 minutes which was pretty quick,it’s normally around the 9/10 minute mark We have a variation on that. How long to sing the holy trinity of 'I wanna go home' 'Is this a library' and 'Your support is fucking shit'. Fun times! Yes but it's exactly the same songs we sing when we are the away team.
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Post by meirman61 on Jan 3, 2022 0:04:26 GMT
Just a matter of interest where would you people screaming for a fanzine actually set it up.
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Post by andycooke96 on Jan 3, 2022 0:13:38 GMT
I've contacted the Supporters Council and sent them the link to this thread. They've said they will pass it onto the club. My guess is comments such as "we'll look into it" or the club will "monitor the situation" will be thrown about and absolutely jack shit will be done about it. Nice one! Fingers crossed there’s some kind of attempt to change things, although as you’ve said, nothing being done is far more likely
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Post by TinkerT on Jan 3, 2022 7:33:09 GMT
Just a matter of interest where would you people screaming for a fanzine actually set it up. Behind the old sentinel stand would be ideal. Steps all across the bank and access at the top with tickets. Lots of heaters etc. Could even build a new exit half way up the stand across to the bank and use the new exit as shelter for the fanzone. We have lots of very good small independent food and drink companies in the area who would love a slot for free and showcasing local food and drink in the process. It wouldn't even cost the club that much to make it happen, around 200k maximum.
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Post by andycooke96 on Jan 4, 2022 18:48:13 GMT
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Post by onepara on Jan 4, 2022 19:39:08 GMT
For those of you who are like me, & old enough to remember moving from the Vic. We were offered a shared stadium with Port Vale, to be built on the Festival Park. The story was, that Bill Bell said that he wasn't prepared to 'move his club southwards', so it never got done. What a missed opportunity. But I agree, this stadium is soulless. Built away from any population. A trek to get there, park, & get away from. Coates & Co. don't know about this. How can they? When they arrive in their big cars, at a time that they want to, are shepherded through the traffic, before & after the game. It's fine to put up with this when the team are doing O.K. But when they are dishing up the dross that they are now, it's time to re-evaluate where your time should be spent. I've been a season ticket holder for longer that I know, & started watching Stoke in the 1950's, but this will be my last one. Along with my two sons & my grandson, who I drag along on matchdays.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 4, 2022 19:41:02 GMT
I've said it before, the atmosphere has been diluted since the "singing section" started up in the corner of the south stand. The Boothen can't hear them, they can't hear the Boothen so you end up with two sets of fans singing different songs, or the same song out of synch. It's like Block 19 on mogodon. Get back up the Boothen and lets have some proper noise! This happened a few times yesterday. The Boothen actually started quite a decent oh when the reds. Then the South Stand started and were 2/3 seconds behind and totally killed it.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jan 4, 2022 19:46:51 GMT
For those of you who are like me, & old enough to remember moving from the Vic. We were offered a shared stadium with Port Vale, to be built on the Festival Park. The story was, that Bill Bell said that he wasn't prepared to 'move his club southwards', so it never got done. What a missed opportunity. But I agree, this stadium is soulless. Built away from any population. A trek to get there, park, & get away from. Coates & Co. don't know about this. How can they? When they arrive in their big cars, at a time that they want to, are shepherded through the traffic, before & after the game. It's fine to put up with this when the team are doing O.K. But when they are dishing up the dross that they are now, it's time to re-evaluate where your time should be spent. I've been a season ticket holder for longer that I know, & started watching Stoke in the 1950's, but this will be my last one. Along with my two sons & my grandson, who I drag along on matchdays. Yep it’s painful, an absolute battle to get along on a match day, my old man is terrified of the virus so won’t attend currently, and my lads (6 & 8) have been so bored shitless at the match lately they don’t want to go. I spend £1k a year on season tickets and missed the entire festive programme due to apathy.
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Post by leicspotter on Jan 4, 2022 19:51:11 GMT
I've said it before, the atmosphere has been diluted since the "singing section" started up in the corner of the south stand. The Boothen can't hear them, they can't hear the Boothen so you end up with two sets of fans singing different songs, or the same song out of synch. It's like Block 19 on mogodon. Get back up the Boothen and lets have some proper noise! This happened a few times yesterday. The Boothen actually started quite a decent oh when the reds. Then the South Stand started and were 2/3 seconds behind and totally killed it. Can't say I heard much coming from the South Stand, and even less sat in the middle of the Boothen, save for a few moments of "C'mon Stoke' when that second chance was created early in the 2nd half...that soon petered out when Preston equalised. It really is dire at the moment
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 4, 2022 19:55:09 GMT
I've said it before, the atmosphere has been diluted since the "singing section" started up in the corner of the south stand. The Boothen can't hear them, they can't hear the Boothen so you end up with two sets of fans singing different songs, or the same song out of synch. It's like Block 19 on mogodon. Get back up the Boothen and lets have some proper noise! This happened a few times yesterday. The Boothen actually started quite a decent oh when the reds. Then the South Stand started and were 2/3 seconds behind and totally killed it. It was as dead as a dodo yesterday - even the goal as good as it was didn't get the crowd going. Just a demoralised atmosphere throughout the club at the moment.
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Post by dave1 on Jan 4, 2022 20:12:48 GMT
This happened a few times yesterday. The Boothen actually started quite a decent oh when the reds. Then the South Stand started and were 2/3 seconds behind and totally killed it. Can't say I heard much coming from the South Stand, and even less sat in the middle of the Boothen, save for a few moments of "C'mon Stoke' when that second chance was created early in the 2nd half...that soon petered out when Preston equalised. It really is dire at the moment I sit block 35 (family stand). The signing section sing quite a bit, there's just not that many of them so not very loud. As for being 2/3 seconds behind, I agree, but it's not very often that all of the stands are joined up! I don't think that the oh when the reds was that fierce...
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Post by newsteadst3 on Jan 4, 2022 20:53:27 GMT
Anyone hear the south stand goading the boothen? Yesterday
Boothen Boothen gis a song!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 4, 2022 21:00:38 GMT
Anyone hear the south stand goading the boothen? Yesterday Boothen Boothen gis a song!! Ironically, no.
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