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Tezgel
Dec 18, 2021 12:16:27 GMT
Post by jokker on Dec 18, 2021 12:16:27 GMT
I have a massive dred that we will try to “manage” his development too much by trying to take it slow and one of the bigwigs will come in and sign him from under our noses. The key would be to communicate on a frequent basis with the boy and his family where the club sees him in his development. Tell him what he needs to add on in his game and praise him when he does something well other than scoring goals. Seeing as he and his family are diehard Stokies, we've got an advantage over other clubs, so if we don't alienate him by not playing him when lesser players do get in, we are some way towards holding on to him. The problem as I see it is O'Neill. He talks the talk to please the chairman's wet dream of seeing Stoke lads in the team, but last season showed us MON's very, very reluctant to actually play them in the first team, and only circumstances seemed to force him to play Taylor and Forrester and only to be dropped pronto after the initial debut. If he keeps Tezgel waiting forever and ever, that could see him look elsewhere for action. |
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Post by lordb on Dec 18, 2021 12:21:36 GMT
The key would be to communicate on a frequent basis with the boy and his family where the club sees him in his development. Tell him what he needs to add on in his game and praise him when he does something well other than scoring goals. Seeing as he and his family are diehard Stokies, we've got an advantage over other clubs, so if we don't alienate him by not playing him when lesser players do get in, we are some way towards holding on to him. The problem as I see it is O'Neill. He talks the talk to please the chairman's wet dream of seeing Stoke lads in the team, but last season showed us MON's very, very reluctant to actually play them in the first team, and only circumstances seemed to force him to play Taylor and Forrester and only to be dropped pronto after the initial debut. If he keeps Tezgel waiting forever and ever, that could see him look elsewhere for action. ONeill has played more young players than any Stoke manager for decades. Tezgel is only just finding his feet at U23 level |
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Tezgel
Dec 18, 2021 12:25:09 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 18, 2021 12:25:09 GMT
The more I watch Surridge, the more I think would Tezgel be any worse.
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Tezgel
Dec 18, 2021 13:24:10 GMT
Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 18, 2021 13:24:10 GMT
What on earth has happened to the continuity of this thread? And I don't just mean because Bayern's turned up  |
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Tezgel
Dec 18, 2021 15:01:40 GMT
Post by jokker on Dec 18, 2021 15:01:40 GMT
ONeill has played more young players than any Stoke manager for decades. Tezgel is only just finding his feet at U23 level I'm sure MON will get him a one off like he did with Connor and Will. Then what? Have you read the thread, more specifically the post I replied to? Theres a fear among supporters that Tezgel will be snatched away, if we don't play him regularly. MON has never played young players at Tezgel's age at any length, he just pretends to intend to but never does, and you believe him. They get to be in their 20s and will have to have proved themselves at other clubs first. That strategy might just come up short if primetime football and plentiful cash gets dangled in front of the young striker is the fear. Beecause that's what happened with Sankoh in the more recent past. |
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Tezgel
Dec 18, 2021 19:27:21 GMT
Post by independent on Dec 18, 2021 19:27:21 GMT
The more I watch Surridge, the more I think would Tezgel be any worse. How many minutes has Surridge played for us? You are always proposing young players should be given a chance in the first team. Any of the ones that I have seen you champion have failed to make any impression when they have got a chance. In fact, even when we loan them out to a lower league side most of them fail to shine and establish themselves in the team they are with and return to Stoke. |
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Tezgel
Dec 18, 2021 19:42:26 GMT
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Post by lordb on Dec 18, 2021 19:42:26 GMT
I'm sure MON will get him a one off like he did with Connor and Will. Then what? Have you read the thread, more specifically the post I replied to? Theres a fear among supporters that Tezgel will be snatched away, if we don't play him regularly. MON has never played young players at Tezgel's age at any length, he just pretends to intend to but never does, and you believe him. They get to be in their 20s and will have to have proved themselves at other clubs first. That strategy might just come up short if primetime football and plentiful cash gets dangled in front of the young striker is the fear. Beecause that's what happened with Sankoh in the more recent past. No manager plays 16 olds at length and very few 16 year olds get a single first team game at all Rooney did and that's 29 years ago Tezgel is nowhere near the first team because he's too young not because of O'Neill If,and he has every chance, he starts banging then in for the U23's then the argument to give him some first time action can start to be made. Probably a year away from that |
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Post by MilanStokie on Dec 18, 2021 20:04:16 GMT
No manager plays 16 olds at length and very few 16 year olds get a single first team game at all Rooney did and that's 29 years ago Tezgel is nowhere near the first team because he's too young not because of O'Neill If,and he has every chance, he starts banging then in for the U23's then the argument to give him some first time action can start to be made. Probably a year away from that Bloody nora, not only does Rooney LOOK like he's aged significantly since taking the Derby job, but he has LITERALLY added 10 years! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 18, 2021 20:12:13 GMT
The more I watch Surridge, the more I think would Tezgel be any worse. How many minutes has Surridge played for us? You are always proposing young players should be given a chance in the first team. Any of the ones that I have seen you champion have failed to make any impression when they have got a chance. In fact, even when we loan them out to a lower league side most of them fail to shine and establish themselves in the team they are with and return to Stoke. Surridge isn’t to standard and we spent 2-4m on him. Plenty have 😂😂there’s 3 in the first team squad now 😂and we just sold one for 12m. |
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Post by lordb on Dec 18, 2021 20:21:53 GMT
Bloody nora, not only does Rooney LOOK like he's aged significantly since taking the Derby job, but he has LITERALLY added 10 years! Oops Meant to say 20 years |
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Tezgel
Dec 18, 2021 20:22:06 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 18, 2021 20:22:06 GMT
I would love to join in with the Jokker/LordB discussion but I haven’t got a clue who said what when.
Anyone else having that issue?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 18, 2021 20:23:42 GMT
I would love to join in with the Jokker/LordB discussion but I haven’t got a clue who said what when. Anyone else having that issue? Someone somewhere has fucked their quote up. The next one replying needs to delete one of the [/ quote] bits and it’ll be fine. |
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Tezgel
Dec 18, 2021 20:34:38 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 18, 2021 20:34:38 GMT
I would love to join in with the Jokker/LordB discussion but I haven’t got a clue who said what when. Anyone else having that issue? Someone somewhere has fucked their quote up. The next one replying needs to delete one of the [/ quote] bits and it’ll be fine. The other thing I noticed is that the two posts Jokker quoted at the top of this page by ravey and TinkerT don’t appear anywhere in this entire thread. Where the buggering hell has he found them? Or have they been subsequently deleted? Not that it matters it’s just messing with my OCD. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 18, 2021 21:14:39 GMT
The more I watch Surridge, the more I think would Tezgel be any worse. How many minutes has Surridge played for us? You are always proposing young players should be given a chance in the first team. Any of the ones that I have seen you champion have failed to make any impression when they have got a chance. In fact, even when we loan them out to a lower league side most of them fail to shine and establish themselves in the team they are with and return to Stoke. Exactly! ‘The more I watch Surridge’ he says. Where exactly are you watching him!!!? |
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Tezgel
Dec 18, 2021 21:57:15 GMT
Post by iglugluk on Dec 18, 2021 21:57:15 GMT
MoN should throw caution to the wind and give him a try in my opinion.
Youth and enthusiasm can be a very infectious quality.
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Tezgel
Dec 18, 2021 22:20:54 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 18, 2021 22:20:54 GMT
How many minutes has Surridge played for us? You are always proposing young players should be given a chance in the first team. Any of the ones that I have seen you champion have failed to make any impression when they have got a chance. In fact, even when we loan them out to a lower league side most of them fail to shine and establish themselves in the team they are with and return to Stoke. Exactly! ‘The more I watch Surridge’ he says. Where exactly are you watching him!!!? The last game we played? |
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Tezgel
Dec 19, 2021 0:10:25 GMT
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Post by nigerianstokie on Dec 19, 2021 0:10:25 GMT
Exactly! ‘The more I watch Surridge’ he says. Where exactly are you watching him!!!? The last game we played? Out of interest, as someone who knows a lot about the academy sides, where would you rate Tezgel in terms of our recent prospects? I don’t see them much but he seems to generate quite the hype. |
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Tezgel
Dec 19, 2021 0:14:37 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 19, 2021 0:14:37 GMT
Out of interest, as someone who knows a lot about the academy sides, where would you rate Tezgel in terms of our recent prospects? I don’t see them much but he seems to generate quite the hype. He seems very good but not Sankoh good. He would have been a regular now in the Bundesliga if it weren’t for his injuries, all at the age of 17. You’d hope he’d playing for us by that age though. |
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Tezgel
Dec 19, 2021 0:19:16 GMT
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Post by nigerianstokie on Dec 19, 2021 0:19:16 GMT
Out of interest, as someone who knows a lot about the academy sides, where would you rate Tezgel in terms of our recent prospects? I don’t see them much but he seems to generate quite the hype. He seems very good but not Sankoh good. He would have been a regular now in the Bundesliga if it weren’t for his injuries, all at the age of 17. You’d hope he’d playing for us by that age though. Christ. Sankoh was quite something then by all accounts? |
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Tezgel
Dec 19, 2021 0:23:57 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 19, 2021 0:23:57 GMT
He seems very good but not Sankoh good. He would have been a regular now in the Bundesliga if it weren’t for his injuries, all at the age of 17. You’d hope he’d playing for us by that age though. Christ. Sankoh was quite something then by all accounts? He was/is. Was getting picked regularly on the Stuttgart at the end of last season/start of this. They’ve given him a new 5/6 year contract after his injury too where he’s done his knee I think and is out for ages. Just hope that doesn’t stop him becoming what he should become, a good top flight striker at the worst and something a bit more special at the better end of the scale. |
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Post by Sfance on Dec 19, 2021 3:45:59 GMT
Christ. Sankoh was quite something then by all accounts? He was/is. Was getting picked regularly on the Stuttgart at the end of last season/start of this. They’ve given him a new 5/6 year contract after his injury too where he’s done his knee I think and is out for ages. Just hope that doesn’t stop him becoming what he should become, a good top flight striker at the worst and something a bit more special at the better end of the scale. Kiss of death for Sankoh then. Poor guy. Whatever did he do to deserve it? |
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Tezgel
Dec 19, 2021 8:45:22 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 19, 2021 8:45:22 GMT
He was/is. Was getting picked regularly on the Stuttgart at the end of last season/start of this. They’ve given him a new 5/6 year contract after his injury too where he’s done his knee I think and is out for ages. Just hope that doesn’t stop him becoming what he should become, a good top flight striker at the worst and something a bit more special at the better end of the scale. Kiss of death for Sankoh then. Poor guy. Whatever did he do to deserve it? Behave. He’s another I was bigging up and has done nothing……As ever it’s just bollocks from you usual morons. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Dec 19, 2021 9:07:12 GMT
Kiss of death for Sankoh then. Poor guy. Whatever did he do to deserve it? Behave. He’s another I was bigging up and has done nothing……As ever it’s just bollocks from you usual morons. Bayern? |
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Tezgel
Dec 19, 2021 9:13:34 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 19, 2021 9:13:34 GMT
Behave. He’s another I was bigging up and has done nothing……As ever it’s just bollocks from you usual morons. Bayern? Ah yes let’s turn this into another bait Bayern thread and then blame him….. Strange people. |
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Post by shrewspotter on Dec 19, 2021 9:20:30 GMT
The one thing that is becoming apparent is that our academy is actually working and working well
Collins, Souttar, Bursik, Campbell are all proof and nobody from the academy seems to let us down. Tezgel may not be quite ready but I’d rather us plump for him than waste 4-5 million on a player another team doesn’t deem good enough
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Tezgel
Dec 19, 2021 9:26:48 GMT
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Post by questionable on Dec 19, 2021 9:26:48 GMT
Ah yes let’s turn this into another bait Bayern thread and then blame him….. Strange people. I can guarantee you if you didn’t reply it’d stop, I’ve done it with Badger now and he doesn’t bother me now (joking) |
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Tezgel
Dec 19, 2021 9:28:16 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 19, 2021 9:28:16 GMT
Ah yes let’s turn this into another bait Bayern thread and then blame him….. Strange people. I can guarantee you if you didn’t reply it’d stop, I’ve done it with Badger now and he doesn’t bother me now (joking) That’s not logical though is it. Why would I not reply? It’s your issue not mine. Take some ownership and grow up. Thanks. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Dec 19, 2021 9:37:51 GMT
Ah yes let’s turn this into another bait Bayern thread and then blame him….. Strange people. The new Ilford Dave. If the cap fits ... |
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Tezgel
Dec 19, 2021 9:42:31 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 19, 2021 9:42:31 GMT
Ah yes let’s turn this into another bait Bayern thread and then blame him….. Strange people. The new Ilford Dave. If the cap fits ... Not at all. But I mean why would reply to someone and then not expect them to reply? It’s a bit strange that. And again here we go with this childish bullshit instigated by others for no reason other than what? Very very strange people. |
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 19, 2021 10:06:29 GMT
Ah yes let’s turn this into another bait Bayern thread and then blame him….. Strange people. It's absolutely disgusting mate. The people that do it should be banned permanently. It lets them down and it lets this forum down. |
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