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Post by sheds1862 on Jan 4, 2022 11:21:07 GMT
His cameo today was woeful The worst Cameo performance since Word Up
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Post by Veritas on Jan 4, 2022 11:27:09 GMT
His cameo today was woeful The worst Cameo performance since Word Up That is a absurd statement, Word Up was good!
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Post by Gods on Jan 4, 2022 11:28:27 GMT
A crap signing which anyone could have told you would be a crap signing before he actually signed. 2 minutes on wiki was all I needed to realise this one wouldn't work out.
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Post by sheds1862 on Jan 4, 2022 11:28:49 GMT
The worst Cameo performance since Word Up That is a absurd statement, Word Up was good! With no sound yes !
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 4, 2022 11:42:20 GMT
His cameo today was woeful The worst Cameo performance since Word Up Just needed the Red codpiece on🤣
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 4, 2022 11:48:10 GMT
A crap signing which anyone could have told you would be a crap signing before he actually signed. 2 minutes on wiki was all I needed to realise this one wouldn't work out. Bit worrying - wonder if he was a 'moneyball' signing - more based on stats than thorough scouting.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Jan 4, 2022 11:50:03 GMT
We need a striker as this guy isn’t up to it, he backs into his opponent everytime to make it look like he’s doing something but he never actually jumps or challenges for the ball. Replaced Vokes with a younger version who’s actually worse.
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Post by Billy the kid on Jan 4, 2022 12:21:11 GMT
Just needs a run of games 🙄
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 4, 2022 12:39:20 GMT
We need a striker as this guy isn’t up to it, he backs into his opponent everytime to make it look like he’s doing something but he never actually jumps or challenges for the ball. Replaced Vokes with a younger version who’s actually worse. He’s only interested in getting fouls.
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Post by march4 on Jan 4, 2022 12:43:52 GMT
Needs a run of games in the U23s to see if he can find better form.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2022 12:56:27 GMT
It's hard to argue against the fact that he looks pretty shit 😞
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 4, 2022 12:58:44 GMT
Needs a run of games in the U23s to see if he can find better form. Loan him to the Fail so he can toughen up a bit
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 4, 2022 13:03:48 GMT
Play as many of the youngsters as possible and hope at least one of them looks like they're worth a call up to the first team.
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Post by stantheman on Jan 4, 2022 13:04:45 GMT
He was poor yesterday, but like most of our strikers for many years, he was fed on scraps. Him, Ince and Doughty as a front 3 was beyond lightweight.
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Post by sheds1862 on Jan 4, 2022 13:21:43 GMT
Needs a run of games in the U23s to see if he can find better form. Loan him to the Fail so he can toughen up a bit That option gone sadly. They've just loaned some young lad from Leeds . Maybe Crewe ?
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Post by hstoke on Jan 4, 2022 20:21:44 GMT
He’s a cross between Graham shaw n dave Bamber and supporters will remember how they performed half the time ,Shaw was the better player n Bamber was a right donkey who never jumped for the ball
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Post by dave1 on Jan 4, 2022 20:31:44 GMT
He was poor yesterday, but like most of our strikers for many years, he was fed on scraps. Him, Ince and Doughty as a front 3 was beyond lightweight. Agree he was fed on scraps but he didn't even challenge for the ball. Looking for the foul every time....
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 4, 2022 20:36:35 GMT
Loan him up a league 1 team in the hope he gets a few tap ins like he did for us and we can hopefully get some sort of fee.
He is nowhere near our standard and never will be.
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Post by miggo on Jan 4, 2022 20:48:56 GMT
Loan him up a league 1 team in the hope he gets a few tap ins like he did for us and we can hopefully get some sort of fee. He is nowhere near our standard and never will be. Has one of the best goals per min ratio at the club. Better than Fletch, Ty, Brown. Has 1 less goal than Brown and has played 120 mins less this season and alot of his mins are from the bench. He is the best natural finisher at the club but he thrives on balls in and around the box. As is the case with all our strikers (none of them perfect) we simply don't create enough chances for the type of strikers we have and we can't afford the luxury players who will put 1 in yhe net every other chance they get.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 4, 2022 20:58:02 GMT
Just needs a run of games 🙄 He does. But there’s no point in having him play up front with his back to goal. He’s only good in the box, so we get the ball into the box for him. He definitely needs to improve his overall game, but that’s a long term project. In the meantime, we need to give him the chance to play to his strengths. One of the biggest issues that I have with Stoke is that they don’t adapt. We play one way and that’s really it. We know Brown doesn’t do well with his back to goal, so why isn’t Vrancic putting balls out just in front of him? We know that Surridge doesn’t do well with his back to goal, so why aren’t we playing the ball out wide and getting low crosses into him? These players are supposed to know each other, so why don’t they react on the pitch to what’s going on?
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 4, 2022 21:02:54 GMT
Loan him up a league 1 team in the hope he gets a few tap ins like he did for us and we can hopefully get some sort of fee. He is nowhere near our standard and never will be. Has one of the best goals per min ratio at the club. Better than Fletch, Ty, Brown. Has 1 less goal than Brown and has played 120 mins less this season and alot of his mins are from the bench. He is the best natural finisher at the club but he thrives on balls in and around the box. As is the case with all our strikers (none of them perfect) we simply don't create enough chances for the type of strikers we have and we can't afford the luxury players who will put 1 in yhe net every other chance they get. I would say he is the best at finding a goal scoring position at the club (by far) but his finishing still isn’t there. I think he’ll come good for his. The movement is very hard to train into someone, and he has that already at his age. He’s definitely lost confidence though and now isn’t even doing that properly (though as you say, he isn’t getting the balls into the box to try). No player scores 1 in every other chance. I was watching Man City versus West Ham a few weeks ago and the amount of sitters they missed was laughable. They win these games because they create about 20 such chances a game, but if the best players in the world don’t score at the rate expected by some on here, how is a young lad from Bournemouth going to do so?
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Post by Goonie on Jan 4, 2022 21:03:05 GMT
The worst Cameo performance since Word Up That is a absurd statement, Word Up was good! My preferred variation on a theme
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 4, 2022 21:50:59 GMT
Just needs a run of games 🙄 He does. But there’s no point in having him play up front with his back to goal. He’s only good in the box, so we get the ball into the box for him. He definitely needs to improve his overall game, but that’s a long term project. In the meantime, we need to give him the chance to play to his strengths. One of the biggest issues that I have with Stoke is that they don’t adapt. We play one way and that’s really it. We know Brown doesn’t do well with his back to goal, so why isn’t Vrancic putting balls out just in front of him? We know that Surridge doesn’t do well with his back to goal, so why aren’t we playing the ball out wide and getting low crosses into him? These players are supposed to know each other, so why don’t they react on the pitch to what’s going on? I think 4-3-3 with two of Brown/Campbell/Doughty either side of him for a few games on the bounce would suit him/us. It’s the only way he’ll get his sharpness up to the required level. Play Vrancic/Allen/Tymon behind them until Thomson is back……
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Post by robstokie on Jan 4, 2022 23:41:17 GMT
He's not been great has he? For one, I would expect a lot more of a physical presence from him - he just seems way too soft to bully defenders, plus lacks any vision or quality in or around the box.
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Post by jokker on Jan 5, 2022 10:04:06 GMT
We need a striker as this guy isn’t up to it, he backs into his opponent everytime to make it look like he’s doing something but he never actually jumps or challenges for the ball. Replaced Vokes with a younger version who’s actually worse. That's really unfair on Sam who's a prolific striker at Wycombe.
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 5, 2022 10:29:07 GMT
The worst Cameo performance since Word Up That is a absurd statement, Word Up was good! I definitely second that statement.
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Post by Gods on Jan 5, 2022 14:33:57 GMT
Loan him up a league 1 team in the hope he gets a few tap ins like he did for us and we can hopefully get some sort of fee. He is nowhere near our standard and never will be. Has one of the best goals per min ratio at the club. Better than Fletch, Ty, Brown. Has 1 less goal than Brown and has played 120 mins less this season and alot of his mins are from the bench. He is the best natural finisher at the club but he thrives on balls in and around the box. As is the case with all our strikers (none of them perfect) we simply don't create enough chances for the type of strikers we have and we can't afford the luxury players who will put 1 in yhe net every other chance they get. He has exactly 2 league goals. If you bundle in an EFL goal against Fleetwood and Donny reserves it looks marginally more respectable.
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 5, 2022 14:36:10 GMT
He started brightly for us, scored a couple of goals but since the farce of Barnsley at home where he should defo have had 3, maybe even 4 he's just looked bereft of confidence, strength and ability.
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Post by miggo on Jan 5, 2022 14:42:22 GMT
Has one of the best goals per min ratio at the club. Better than Fletch, Ty, Brown. Has 1 less goal than Brown and has played 120 mins less this season and alot of his mins are from the bench. He is the best natural finisher at the club but he thrives on balls in and around the box. As is the case with all our strikers (none of them perfect) we simply don't create enough chances for the type of strikers we have and we can't afford the luxury players who will put 1 in yhe net every other chance they get. He has exactly 2 league goals. If you bundle in an EFL goal against Fleetwood and Donny reserves it looks marginally more respectable. You can only score against the teams you play against. What do people really expect with our limitations? If a goal scorer was so easy to find every championship team would have one. We are where we are and unfortunately the likes of Brown and Surridge or anyone else we can find within our non existent budget are the types of striker we will get. I would rather us take a gamble on young unproven types that we have over the likes of Vokes any day of the week.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 5, 2022 14:50:31 GMT
He has exactly 2 league goals. If you bundle in an EFL goal against Fleetwood and Donny reserves it looks marginally more respectable. You can only score against the teams you play against. What do people really expect with our limitations? If a goal scorer was so easy to find every championship team would have one. We are where we are and unfortunately the likes of Brown and Surridge or anyone else we can find within our non existent budget are the types of striker we will get. I would rather us take a gamble on young unproven types that we have over the likes of Vokes any day of the week. What might be nice would be if he could contribute literally anything else as well rather than being a complete passenger, which we can't afford? Pure poachers who offer nothing else but popping up in the six yard box are extinct, they're no good to us.
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