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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 26, 2021 22:17:35 GMT
So, let’s work this one out and try to be sensible. Our midfield trio currently consists of Allen who has just played how many games in the last month? a player that at times resembles the invisible man and another who is an excellent footballer the wrong side of 30, and being constructive critical is “lightweight” Yet Allen is the anti christ of our midfield…….OK Not at all. I take it Sawyers is your invisible man? I refer to him as the non combatant, he’s utter garbage his ability on the ball is supposed to make up for the fact he opts out of the rest of the game tbh he’s casual with the ball too often gifting possession to our opponents, the amount of telling balls he’s producing is minimal. Unlike Vrancic who’s had an involvement in the majority of our goals this season and does plenty of work off the ball for such a creative player. Our midfield is just unbalanced and ineffective. In effect then we have (currently) a 2 man mid field with one have bile and pelters after each game. Constructive/fair crtiscism?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 26, 2021 22:22:35 GMT
Not at all. I take it Sawyers is your invisible man? I refer to him as the non combatant, he’s utter garbage his ability on the ball is supposed to make up for the fact he opts out of the rest of the game tbh he’s casual with the ball too often gifting possession to our opponents, the amount of telling balls he’s producing is minimal. Unlike Vrancic who’s had an involvement in the majority of our goals this season and does plenty of work off the ball for such a creative player. Our midfield is just unbalanced and ineffective. In effect then we have (currently) a 2 man mid field with one have bile and pelters after each game. Constructive/fair crtiscism? We have a two man midfield where both have rightly come in for criticism.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 26, 2021 22:22:45 GMT
Not at all. I take it Sawyers is your invisible man? I refer to him as the non combatant, he’s utter garbage his ability on the ball is supposed to make up for the fact he opts out of the rest of the game tbh he’s casual with the ball too often gifting possession to our opponents, the amount of telling balls he’s producing is minimal. Unlike Vrancic who’s had an involvement in the majority of our goals this season and does plenty of work off the ball for such a creative player. Our midfield is just unbalanced and ineffective. In effect then we have (currently) a 2 man mid field with one have bile and pelters after each game. Constructive/fair crtiscism? Sawyers gets loads of grief 😂
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Nov 27, 2021 12:29:39 GMT
Not at all. I take it Sawyers is your invisible man? I refer to him as the non combatant, he’s utter garbage his ability on the ball is supposed to make up for the fact he opts out of the rest of the game tbh he’s casual with the ball too often gifting possession to our opponents, the amount of telling balls he’s producing is minimal. Unlike Vrancic who’s had an involvement in the majority of our goals this season and does plenty of work off the ball for such a creative player. Our midfield is just unbalanced and ineffective. In effect then we have (currently) a 2 man mid field with one have bile and pelters after each game. Constructive/fair crtiscism? My opinion on Joe Allen hasn't changed I've never rated him and been using the description "touch of a rapist, vision of a mole" for years. I certainly don't give him pelters or anything else after every game. It's such a deeply imbedded opinion I don't even feel the need to mention it that regularly. Sawyers on the other hand I just can't let his lack of application and physicality pass without comment most weeks. I stand by my comment that Joe Allen has been an appalling signing for Stoke City in a football sense much worse than Wimmer, Imbula etc etc. Signing the wrong players is one thing, playing them week in week out is another entirely.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Nov 27, 2021 12:31:49 GMT
In effect then we have (currently) a 2 man mid field with one have bile and pelters after each game. Constructive/fair crtiscism? Sawyers gets loads of grief 😂 Every bit of it warranted. You could write the effective balls he's played for Stoke on the back of a stamp. Considering he doesn't do anything else at all nowhere near enough.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 27, 2021 13:49:24 GMT
Sawyers gets loads of grief 😂 Every bit of it warranted. You could write the effective balls he's played for Stoke on the back of a stamp. Considering he doesn't do anything else at all nowhere near enough. Oh definitely. Just pointing out that to suggest it’s just Allen is way off the mark.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 27, 2021 20:08:42 GMT
Missed the little maestro today. His leadership, his courage on the ball, his neatly manicured beard…..
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Post by houstonsteve on Nov 27, 2021 20:10:02 GMT
Missed the little maestro today. His leadership, his courage on the ball, his neatly manicured beard….. his humane chicken husbandry.....
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 27, 2021 20:11:27 GMT
Missed the little maestro today. His leadership, his courage on the ball, his neatly manicured beard….. his humane chicken husbandry..... The chickens will have loved him being at home on a Saturday for once as a special treat…..
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Post by houstonsteve on Nov 27, 2021 20:13:27 GMT
his humane chicken husbandry..... The chickens will have loved him being at home on a Saturday for once as a special treat….. yeah apart from the bit where he throws their food and the pigs get it.....
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Post by tejstokie on Nov 27, 2021 20:16:03 GMT
The only thing we missed from Allen today was accosting his name each 5 mins for the average 15+ giveaways he does each match. All it proved is he's as useless as the rest of our midfield. Same results, no appearance. Can't wait til he leaves permanently. Time for a new midfield.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 27, 2021 20:19:00 GMT
The only thing we missed from Allen today was accosting his name each 5 mins for the average 15+ giveaways he does each match. All it proved is he's as useless as the rest of our midfield. Same results, no appearance. Can't wait til he leaves permanently. Time for a new midfield. I think we would have been much better with him in the team today. No agenda, no comment on his career to date, just my honest opinion on that and that alone…..
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Post by tejstokie on Nov 27, 2021 20:21:29 GMT
The only thing we missed from Allen today was accosting his name each 5 mins for the average 15+ giveaways he does each match. All it proved is he's as useless as the rest of our midfield. Same results, no appearance. Can't wait til he leaves permanently. Time for a new midfield. I think we would have been much better with him in the team today. No agenda, no comment on his career to date, just my honest opinion on that and that alone….. Well when Tymon is your star cdm anyone would have improved us. Even Bayern. MON only to blame and an injured Thompson.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 27, 2021 21:43:49 GMT
In effect then we have (currently) a 2 man mid field with one have bile and pelters after each game. Constructive/fair crtiscism? My opinion on Joe Allen hasn't changed I've never rated him and been using the description "touch of a rapist, vision of a mole" for years. I certainly don't give him pelters or anything else after every game. It's such a deeply imbedded opinion I don't even feel the need to mention it that regularly. Sawyers on the other hand I just can't let his lack of application and physicality pass without comment most weeks. I stand by my comment that Joe Allen has been an appalling signing for Stoke City in a football sense much worse than Wimmer, Imbula etc etc. Signing the wrong players is one thing, playing them week in week out is another entirely. “You” have “never” rated him OK
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