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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 24, 2021 23:08:06 GMT
Did he, where does it say that? Well according to WhoScored he played 66 passes including 2 key passes (lost possession 11 times) giving a success rate of 84% It was the most passes by a Stoke player and the 2nd most successful % behind Ostigard. So is the 16 a percentage and not actual misplaced passes? I just hope Matt Swift isn’t a Dr of Mathematics :-)……….
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 24, 2021 23:10:37 GMT
He's going nowhere if the report of £50k per week I read earlier is true.
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 24, 2021 23:11:22 GMT
He's going nowhere if the report of £50k per week I read earlier is true. Out of contract in the summer.
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 24, 2021 23:12:34 GMT
He's going nowhere if the report of £50k per week I read earlier is true. Out of contract in the summer. Hopefully?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2021 23:12:43 GMT
Well according to WhoScored he played 66 passes including 2 key passes (lost possession 11 times) giving a success rate of 84% It was the most passes by a Stoke player and the 2nd most successful % behind Ostigard. So I imagine the 16 is a percentage and not actual misplaced passes. I just hope Matt Swift isn’t a Dr of Mathematics…… Possession lost will be getting tackled etc? Not just passing.
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Post by liathroid on Nov 24, 2021 23:14:04 GMT
good job we have Sawyers
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 24, 2021 23:14:27 GMT
Out of contract in the summer. Hopefully? No definitely. He signed a four year deal in 2018 when we got relegated. He’s either leaving or staying on massively reduced terms.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 24, 2021 23:15:46 GMT
Well according to WhoScored he played 66 passes including 2 key passes (lost possession 11 times) giving a success rate of 84% It was the most passes by a Stoke player and the 2nd most successful % behind Ostigard. So I imagine the 16 is a percentage and not actual misplaced passes. I just hope Matt Swift isn’t a Dr of Mathematics…… He's got them off sofa score, which actually give him a better passing % but it counts crosses etc separately I think.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 24, 2021 23:16:22 GMT
Well according to WhoScored he played 66 passes including 2 key passes (lost possession 11 times) giving a success rate of 84% It was the most passes by a Stoke player and the 2nd most successful % behind Ostigard. So I imagine the 16 is a percentage and not actual misplaced passes. I just hope Matt Swift isn’t a Dr of Mathematics…… Possession lost will be getting tackled etc? Not just passing. According to WhoScored he was dispossessed on 1 occasion, he also had 8.9% of overall possession in the game which was the highest of any player on either team………
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 24, 2021 23:16:49 GMT
good job we have Sawyers We are looking at the tough tackling Sawyers and Vrancic as our midfield two on Saturday. Frightening.
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 24, 2021 23:17:13 GMT
No definitely. He signed a four year deal in 2018 when we got relegated. He’s either leaving or staying on massively reduced terms. I was joking mate
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2021 23:17:20 GMT
Well according to WhoScored he played 66 passes including 2 key passes (lost possession 11 times) giving a success rate of 84% It was the most passes by a Stoke player and the 2nd most successful % behind Ostigard. So I imagine the 16 is a percentage and not actual misplaced passes. I just hope Matt Swift isn’t a Dr of Mathematics…… He's got them off sofa score, which actually give him a better passing % but it counts crosses etc separately I think. PP has fucked this one trying to be a smart arse and not really understood what it means.
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Post by sticky on Nov 24, 2021 23:17:32 GMT
You don’t need to look at any stats to realise he needs replacing asap
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 24, 2021 23:18:15 GMT
good job we have Sawyers We are looking at the tough tackling Sawyers and Vrancic as our midfield two on Saturday. Frightening. And a knackered Tymon I’d suggest
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 24, 2021 23:19:27 GMT
He's got them off sofa score, which actually give him a better passing % but it counts crosses etc separately I think. PP has fucked this one trying to be a smart arse and not really understood what it means. Nope, I’m trying to understand where the 16 comes from, you’ve given me a random screen shot……
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2021 23:20:06 GMT
PP has fucked this one trying to be a smart arse and not really understood what it means. Nope, I’m trying to understand where the 16 comes from, you’ve given me a random screen shot…… Yup. You related it solely to passing. Which is just a bit thick. Never mind.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 24, 2021 23:25:52 GMT
Nope, I’m trying to understand where the 16 comes from, you’ve given me a random screen shot…… Yup. You related it solely to passing. Which is just a bit thick. Never mind. But you’ve just said it counts him being tackled and he got dispossessed once. I was just simply asking where the 16 came from as you said “he lost the ball 16 times” that was all. Sounds like we’re both being a bit thick…… EDIT He was actually dispossessed on 2 occasions, 2nd to Tymon with 3.
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Post by everyoneneedsawhelan on Nov 24, 2021 23:27:05 GMT
Well according to WhoScored he played 66 passes including 2 key passes (lost possession 11 times) giving a success rate of 84% It was the most passes by a Stoke player and the 2nd most successful % behind Ostigard. So I imagine the 16 is a percentage and not actual misplaced passes. I just hope Matt Swift isn’t a Dr of Mathematics…… It isn’t only misplaced passes, it’s simply how many times he lost the ball. Whether that be a pass or being tackled etc. It’s definitely not a percentage. He was awful.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 24, 2021 23:28:28 GMT
Well according to WhoScored he played 66 passes including 2 key passes (lost possession 11 times) giving a success rate of 84% It was the most passes by a Stoke player and the 2nd most successful % behind Ostigard. So I imagine the 16 is a percentage and not actual misplaced passes. I just hope Matt Swift isn’t a Dr of Mathematics…… It isn’t only misplaced passes, it’s simply how many times he lost the ball. Whether that be a pass or being tackled etc. It’s definitely not a percentage. He was awful. He was disposed on 2 occasions and made 11 misplaced passes, what else?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2021 23:29:36 GMT
Yup. You related it solely to passing. Which is just a bit thick. Never mind. But you’ve just said it counts him being tackled and he got dispossessed once. I was just simply asking where the 16 came from as you said “he lost the ball 16 times” that was all. Sounds like we’re both being a bit thick…… It was an example of what could count as being dispossessed. There are many more ways of doing it than that. Clearly. You misunderstood it. Cool.
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 24, 2021 23:30:12 GMT
Nope, I’m trying to understand where the 16 comes from, you’ve given me a random screen shot…… Yup. You related it solely to passing. Which is just a bit thick. Never mind. Allen has been one one of the worst passers of a football to our players I have seen over the time he's been here and with his supa dupa Welsh history he should be great, that said his stats are amazing for passing to the opposition!
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Post by liathroid on Nov 24, 2021 23:32:18 GMT
good job we have Sawyers We are looking at the tough tackling Sawyers and Vrancic as our midfield two on Saturday. Frightening. Sawyers , why does Mick pick him
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 24, 2021 23:38:06 GMT
We are looking at the tough tackling Sawyers and Vrancic as our midfield two on Saturday. Frightening. Sawyers , why does Mick pick him No other option at the moment is there? I still think he’s a player, but I must admit he’s frustrating to watch.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 24, 2021 23:39:44 GMT
But you’ve just said it counts him being tackled and he got dispossessed once. I was just simply asking where the 16 came from as you said “he lost the ball 16 times” that was all. Sounds like we’re both being a bit thick…… It was an example of what could count as being dispossessed. There are many more ways of doing it than that. Clearly. You misunderstood it. Cool. So in the context of him having more touches than anyone on the pitch, more accurate passes (bar Kalas and Ostigard) and more possession than any other player on the pitch, he “lost possession” on 16 occasions. Ok cool, not great (neither was his performance) but not as bad as it’s being made out either…..
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2021 23:41:01 GMT
It was an example of what could count as being dispossessed. There are many more ways of doing it than that. Clearly. You misunderstood it. Cool. So in the context of him having more touches than anyone on the pitch, more accurate passes (bar Kalas and Ostigard) and more possession than any other player on the pitch, he “lost possession” on 16 occasions. Ok cool, not great (neither was his performance) but not as bad as it’s being made out either….. He was absolutely atrocious.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 24, 2021 23:51:01 GMT
So in the context of him having more touches than anyone on the pitch, more accurate passes (bar Kalas and Ostigard) and more possession than any other player on the pitch, he “lost possession” on 16 occasions. Ok cool, not great (neither was his performance) but not as bad as it’s being made out either….. He was absolutely atrocious. He was average. Now Tymon and Fletcher they gave the ball away nearly 40% of the time they had it now that’s in atrocious territory…..
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Post by kustokie on Nov 25, 2021 1:05:47 GMT
I thought Allen was improved today but still bloody awful. However, Sawyers was worse.
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Post by kustokie on Nov 25, 2021 1:06:50 GMT
We are looking at the tough tackling Sawyers and Vrancic as our midfield two on Saturday. Frightening. Sawyers , why does Mick pick him Quite simply because there’s nobody else to pick from.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2021 1:24:17 GMT
He was absolutely atrocious. He was average. Now Tymon and Fletcher they gave the ball away nearly 40% of the time they had it now that’s in atrocious territory….. Different positions though as well. I’m sure a lot of Tymon’s give aways were crosses into decent areas that were never met by Fletcher/Brown. Fletcher is also in a bit of a high-risk position for dispossession and his stats are likely inflated by flick-ons etc that aren’t met by a Stoke player. While Fletcher should have put us in the lead, neither he nor Tymon had a bad game in my opinion.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Nov 25, 2021 1:27:52 GMT
I’m not sure I’ve ever celebrated a Stoke red card before, but thanks Joe, you’ve changed that too now. We may stand a chance in future of winning the midfield battle.
Just for the next game of course, you’ll be back after that obviously.
I’d rather see a midfield three of Garry Glitter, Jimmy Savile and a 12 year old as opposed to that penis.
Please Joe, just leave. For all our sakes.
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