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Post by wakefieldstokie on Nov 9, 2021 17:35:21 GMT
Ooh let’s list his best signings, I’ll start: Berahino Forced Sparky to bring him in, did he? I forgot he did nothing but say yes to managers. Silly me, I guess he also had nothing to do with salaries, contract length or any process to evaluate players suitability other than the managers assessment of their football skills. Get real
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Post by neddy on Nov 9, 2021 17:36:02 GMT
It seems they knew he was as going for some time reading between the lines so quick appointment do we think?
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Post by sportsman on Nov 9, 2021 17:37:43 GMT
The CEO is a role I believe was brought in by chairman to take the heat off themselves.
Look at most clubs and the CEO or director of football will get it in the neck. Name a club that hasn't made bad signings or one's that didn't work out.
So when the new one comes in, is it going be he who gets it in the neck for a bad signing? Or comments like bring back Scholes? It's a thankless job.
I'll have a go at it though 😁
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 9, 2021 17:43:10 GMT
The CEO is a role I believe was brought in by chairman to take the heat off themselves. Look at most clubs and the CEO or director of football will get it in the neck. Name a club that hasn't made bad signings or one's that didn't work out. So when the new one comes in, is it going be he who gets it in the neck for a bad signing? Or comments like bring back Scholes? It's a thankless job. I'll have a go at it though 😁 It is but from what I've been told he controls a lot of the day to day things and decisions you'd expect to be made by not even a manager would go up to him. The picture painted was quite a stifling environment to work in. If true then I'm hoping that this will allow us to actually be a bit creative and forward thinking. Because I think we're run terribly traditionally and are getting left behind.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2021 17:45:05 GMT
Forced Sparky to bring him in, did he? I forgot he did nothing but say yes to managers. Silly me, I guess he also had nothing to do with salaries, contract length or any process to evaluate players suitability other than the managers assessment of their football skills. Get real None of us have a clue if he was responsible for managers/players etc so pointless in speculating. Managers want certain players, some are good, some bad etc. So many ( not this post) are wise asses when a signing turns out badly. Remember the thread when we were after a CB, Soton paid over 10 million for Van Dijk and plenty ridiculed them on here for buying a pub league player. Under Scholes, one thing the club has done is treat fans superbly. Good luck to him, you win some etc
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Post by werrington on Nov 9, 2021 17:45:53 GMT
What solutions were available though? As far as I could see the only ones were: 1) Tie him to a new contact - never going to happen 2) Sell him earlier, which we could've done but quite possibly at the expenses of a very enjoyable season. Even then I don't recall their being much interest in him before the summer he left. 3) Take the hit and keep him for another season, but then you've got a seriously unhappy player in your dressing room and you're faced with the same issue of replacing him 12 months later only without even that modest profit on him. I think 2 & 3 are fair. We do know that N'Zonzi had form for throwing his weight around on a contract which would suggest while he was unhappy he could be turned. Do we know that we didn't try to extend his contract the season before? I appreciate the pull of European football but could we have extended his contract and put in a 15m European buyout clause? He would have felt that we weren't going to keep him forever and there was a route out and we weren't holding him hostage to a huge exit clause. We offered Nzonzi more money than Seville in an attempt to secure his services but he wanted to play abroad Let’s not rewrite history in regards Nzonzi as a few months earlier at Sunderland away he was mercilessly barracked by a sizeable section of the visiting support as the fools slaughtered him for passing sideways Anyway we digress
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Post by lordb on Nov 9, 2021 17:46:33 GMT
Forced Sparky to bring him in, did he? I forgot he did nothing but say yes to managers. Silly me, I guess he also had nothing to do with salaries, contract length or any process to evaluate players suitability other than the managers assessment of their football skills. Get real There's a big list of Scholes mistakes but Berahino wasn't one of them, he was overruled on that one If it had been his decision we wouldn't have signed him
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Post by questionable on Nov 9, 2021 17:46:51 GMT
A lad I know works at Stoke, told me that they’d had a leaving collection for him, turned out he owed them £11:00,
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 9, 2021 17:47:47 GMT
Forced Sparky to bring him in, did he? I forgot he did nothing but say yes to managers. Silly me, I guess he also had nothing to do with salaries, contract length or any process to evaluate players suitability other than the managers assessment of their football skills. Get real That’s something different isn’t it? He deserves flak for the contract issues. The ‘process to evaluate players’ suitability’ wasn’t his job was it? Red flags about the signing supposedly were raised where Berahino was concerned but Hughes was adamant and the club backed their manager - from the owners down. If he’d intervened and stopped the club signing a player who went on to be a superstar, I’m sure the reaction on here would’ve been balanced and understanding…
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Post by lordb on Nov 9, 2021 17:48:40 GMT
I forgot he did nothing but say yes to managers. Silly me, I guess he also had nothing to do with salaries, contract length or any process to evaluate players suitability other than the managers assessment of their football skills. Get real That’s something different isn’t it? He deserves flak for the contract issues. The ‘process to evaluate players’ suitability’ wasn’t his job was it? Red flags about the signing supposedly were raised where Berahino was concerned but Hughes was adamant and the club backed their manager - from the owners down. If he’d intervened and stopped the club signing a player who went on to be a superstar, I’m sure the reaction on here would’ve been balanced and understanding… Moxey did that
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 9, 2021 17:49:14 GMT
Premier league has to happen now this season as it's him that's been holding us back!
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Post by questionable on Nov 9, 2021 17:49:51 GMT
The only concern over this is John Coates gets more involved in the football side of things and decision making🤔 You say that as if it’s a bad thing.........
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 9, 2021 17:51:49 GMT
That’s something different isn’t it? He deserves flak for the contract issues. The ‘process to evaluate players’ suitability’ wasn’t his job was it? Red flags about the signing supposedly were raised where Berahino was concerned but Hughes was adamant and the club backed their manager - from the owners down. If he’d intervened and stopped the club signing a player who went on to be a superstar, I’m sure the reaction on here would’ve been balanced and understanding… Moxey did that With Emerson Thome was it?
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 9, 2021 17:52:55 GMT
It'll be interesting to see where the club goes now? If we ever get back into the Premier League perhaps having a 'friend' of SCFC won't be such a bad thing.
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Post by loosestools on Nov 9, 2021 17:53:55 GMT
A CEO would have to give at least 3 months notice. After 17 years employment he would not want to leave on bad terms, so I suspect a new CEO is already waiting in the wings. He will be a steady Eddie type, a Chartered Accountant. Poor John Coates, will he crying at the thought of losing his Nanny?
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Post by Bombus on Nov 9, 2021 17:54:40 GMT
Big day this
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Nov 9, 2021 17:55:37 GMT
Of concern ( interest ) too is the freezing of season ticket prices . , together with the question of free away travel ..both of which as I understand it Scholes was a firm advocate of ..as well as attempting to encourage other clubs to follow those ideas together with reciprocal ticket pricing , will the new person have similar views or convince the owners that they’re wasted revenue opportunities Yes he certainly was, and was an advocate of the PL away fans initiative'. I think the 12-year season ticket price freeze and the free away coach travel might well be reviewed by a new CEO. On both of those, fans of other clubs sometimes think I'm pulling their leg when I tell them. As some other posters have said, he is very well thought of in the game. Wearing my FSA hat from a national perspective, I'm not at all unhappy that he's going into the Premier League set up. From a Stoke perspective, I'm certainly not dancing in the street. Could we do worse ? - absolutely we could but hopefully the owners won't make a mistake with this appointment, or a restructuring, if that's what they decide to do.
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Post by questionable on Nov 9, 2021 17:57:23 GMT
I think 2 & 3 are fair. We do know that N'Zonzi had form for throwing his weight around on a contract which would suggest while he was unhappy he could be turned. Do we know that we didn't try to extend his contract the season before? I appreciate the pull of European football but could we have extended his contract and put in a 15m European buyout clause? He would have felt that we weren't going to keep him forever and there was a route out and we weren't holding him hostage to a huge exit clause. We offered Nzonzi more money than Seville in an attempt to secure his services but he wanted to play abroad Let’s not rewrite history in regards Nzonzi as a few months earlier at Sunderland away he was mercilessly barracked by a sizeable section of the visiting support as the fools slaughtered him for passing sideways Sure he had of the field issues also involving an ex??
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Post by insideright on Nov 9, 2021 17:59:25 GMT
Jean Moxey anyone??
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 9, 2021 18:03:07 GMT
Will he retain his shares and place on the board?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2021 18:11:04 GMT
A wise time for him to leave. He joined us when we were midtable-ish Championship team and is leaving when the club is on the upturn again. Overall, he’s helped to oversee a successful period, despite the last few seasons.
I wish him good luck with his future endeavours.
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Post by lordb on Nov 9, 2021 18:19:33 GMT
Will he retain his shares and place on the board? Good question Surely not?
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Post by loosestools on Nov 9, 2021 18:23:39 GMT
Will he retain his shares and place on the board? Good question Surely not? Shares yes - we might get bought out. On the Board - no, its got to be a clean break. My opinion.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 9, 2021 18:24:25 GMT
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Post by loosestools on Nov 9, 2021 18:26:42 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 9, 2021 18:27:21 GMT
Would assume very little activity in the January window now as a result of this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2021 18:34:27 GMT
Jean Moxey
MOXEY Jean, wishing you a happy 90th birthday Auntie Jean have a lovely day. With all our love and best wishes from Roger, Lyn, Rachel, Joanna, Rorie, Archie and Mabel xx
Published in the Burnham and Highbridge Weekly News on 23rd June 2011
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Feck me, she'd be 100 now. If appointed give her a chance though
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Nov 9, 2021 18:36:56 GMT
Let the rumours commence! No rumour he had a job with premier league Please be Newcastle Utd!
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Post by lordb on Nov 9, 2021 18:37:53 GMT
No rumour he had a job with premier league Please be Newcastle Utd! Not a club, job with the Premier League
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Nov 9, 2021 18:40:27 GMT
Please be Newcastle Utd! Not a club, job with the Premier League Drat drat & treble drat!
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