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Post by clarkeda on Oct 3, 2021 10:12:35 GMT
Never understood why Southampton didn’t go for him after selling vestergard
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 3, 2021 10:14:06 GMT
If Ben white went for 50m when he was playing in this league with Leeds soutter will get 50m hes diff to the rest with his hight I’d keep him untill someone offers 40/50 mill if we went up and he did well could be more hes 21 He’s not worth that. Ben White also had a full season in the Premier League to warrant that price tag (not that he’s actually worth it but that’s a different story).
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Post by chiswickpotter on Oct 3, 2021 10:15:23 GMT
Because you say he’s not for sale and then say if we get an offer for him that’s another scenario, well which one is it? The OP and thread title is how do we keep him and I gave the answer. You then said every players has a price which I agree with but if the club refuse to sell then that's it. If as you say they have a good offer and sell then they clearly didn't want to keep him did they. So how do we keep Harry simple don't sell him as he's under contract and we don't need to sell him. The question was not how much would it take to get him or would the club sell him it was how do we keep him. Those are two completely different questions and scenarios. Surely we would always be open to offers and not just say no. If the offer was £40 million, that buys a replacement, plus a CDM and a left sided centre back, our 2 weakest positions currently
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 10:20:46 GMT
The OP and thread title is how do we keep him and I gave the answer. You then said every players has a price which I agree with but if the club refuse to sell then that's it. If as you say they have a good offer and sell then they clearly didn't want to keep him did they. So how do we keep Harry simple don't sell him as he's under contract and we don't need to sell him. The question was not how much would it take to get him or would the club sell him it was how do we keep him. Those are two completely different questions and scenarios. Surely we would always be open to offers and not just say no. If the offer was £40 million, that buys a replacement, plus a CDM and a left sided centre back, our 2 weakest positions currently And allows us to release Ince + probably get about 2-3 others on longer contracts and maybe get in a striker as well. That’s ridiculous money for a player with one season of Championship experience. He would have to go up and play comparably well to be worth it.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 3, 2021 11:20:26 GMT
Well lets put a ridiculous price tag on him. Hes our player and we should be asking for top dollar. If someone doesn't want to pay our asking price then fuck em. Tired of giving away our best players for pennies.
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Post by theonlooker on Oct 3, 2021 11:42:01 GMT
Everton can absolutely have him. We can have 40M of their earth pounds in return.
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Post by franklin on Oct 3, 2021 12:05:26 GMT
The OP and thread title is how do we keep him and I gave the answer. You then said every players has a price which I agree with but if the club refuse to sell then that's it. If as you say they have a good offer and sell then they clearly didn't want to keep him did they. So how do we keep Harry simple don't sell him as he's under contract and we don't need to sell him. The question was not how much would it take to get him or would the club sell him it was how do we keep him. Those are two completely different questions and scenarios. Surely we would always be open to offers and not just say no. If the offer was £40 million, that buys a replacement, plus a CDM and a left sided centre back, our 2 weakest positions currently I didn't say we wouldn't sell him or shouldn't sell him I just stated how we keep him which is the question posed. Of course if Pep came calling with a massive offer then it might make sense to sell and invest. However the only way to keep Harry for the foreseeable is to not sell him I don't understand what the issue is with that statement.
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Post by theonlooker on Oct 3, 2021 12:22:01 GMT
More concerned about keeping the manager in truth. If Newcastle were to come calling we might have a problem. Would MON go there though? He specifically stated the reason he came here was because of the local owners and the stability at boardroom level, and that he'd turned down jobs before because of not knowing who he'd be working for. That rules out a whole host of clubs at PL level. I'd be more worried about Brighton, knowing our recent relationship with them re. Transfers and their ownership structure - coupled with their history of dabbling in the Championship managerial circles with Potter.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 3, 2021 13:22:44 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 3, 2021 13:38:22 GMT
It’ll be interesting to see if Spurs are interested because he had a right shitter against them in the cup. And was one of the games why I’m not massively convinced he’d step up.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Oct 3, 2021 13:46:54 GMT
My only worry for him this season is burn out, pretty much played the whole of the summer. Think we may see him rested for a few games over Christmas.
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Post by samba :) on Oct 3, 2021 13:55:47 GMT
Either go up this season or get >25 million for him, mon can use that to get us up surely
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 3, 2021 13:56:40 GMT
We can't sell him this season! That would be madness! I think him playing is one of the main reasons why we are in with a shot for promotion. We could strike a deal where he can go in the summer if we aren't promoted, but not for less than £30M as I see it, even that would be a bargain for another club. This boy will go all the way, I'm sure of it!
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 3, 2021 22:05:52 GMT
Just had another thought on this, while obviously it would be bad to lose H we will at some point. I wonder how Connor Taylor is doing at the Joey Barton school of defending and if he can have a ‘souttar at fleetwood’ type of experience
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 3, 2021 23:15:14 GMT
He will be playing in the Prem next season with or without us. We should at least see if it can be with us, before making sure we get 25-30m for him next summer, if not.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 4, 2021 1:12:47 GMT
He will be playing in the Prem next season with or without us. We should at least see if it can be with us, before making sure we get 25-30m for him next summer, if not. I agree. The best way we can keep Souttar (maybe the only way) is get promoted. Where we stand in January will certainly influence his decision.
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Post by hotpot on Oct 4, 2021 1:58:47 GMT
60 million for Harry. Its a fair price.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 4, 2021 8:30:14 GMT
Starting price is £40m, except to spurs where the starting price is £80m to those shysters.
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Post by hyaduck on Oct 4, 2021 8:42:24 GMT
Starting price is £40m, except to spurs where the starting price is £80m to those shysters. I think if Everton offer £20m he be gone.
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 4, 2021 8:47:03 GMT
It’ll be interesting to see if Spurs are interested because he had a right shitter against them in the cup. And was one of the games why I’m not massively convinced he’d step up. He's a much better player today, than he was back when we played Spurs.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 4, 2021 8:51:32 GMT
Starting price is £40m, except to spurs where the starting price is £80m to those shysters. I think if Everton offer £20m he be gone. No chance. There would be uproar at that price.
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Post by wuzza on Oct 4, 2021 10:34:19 GMT
Burnley and the like give me no worries at all but Everton would be a worryingly good fit - maybe with a loan back for the rest of the season His wages would undoubtedly be eye-watering there.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Oct 4, 2021 12:03:01 GMT
Time for Peter Coates to do a Daniel Levy - if he has to go, which I think we will struggle to keep him - its got to be mega bucks plus add minimum 25% on if they sell him
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Post by onefatcopper on Oct 4, 2021 12:45:36 GMT
60 million for Harry. Its a fair price. Ask yourself how much was Ryan Shawcross worth in a monetary value to Stoke City ? He helped us to the Premier League and to survive there for a decade, he was part of the side in our only FA Cup final appearance and then onto our European adventures just how much hard cash was Ryan worth, 60 million ? well now we find ourselves in a very similar position with Harry but the question is how much money could Harry be worth to Stoke City not only now but in the future ? At similar ages Harry is by far the more complete footballer he’s already a full international representing his country at the Olympics and the World Cup qualifying rounds plus finding himself a goal scoring phenomenon ! Just what could Stoke City and Harry achieve together ?
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 5, 2021 7:26:19 GMT
Love how Pete is casually throwing out £50m valuations.
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Post by femark on Oct 5, 2021 8:02:01 GMT
His value will be highly dependent on what else is around. Are there any other stand out championship defenders, or are there any prem level defenders that are available/out of contract.
I haven't seen a better centre half in the league this season.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 5, 2021 8:18:49 GMT
Starting price is £40m, except to spurs where the starting price is £80m to those shysters. I think if Everton offer £20m he be gone. You had me there until you said ‘I think’.
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Post by moon on Oct 5, 2021 8:32:26 GMT
Unless we have to sell for FFP reasons we should keep him until the summer assuming he is happy to stay, and why wouldn't he be happy to stay until the end of the season as he is going to be playing every game he is fit for and that probably wouldn't be the case in the Premier League.
I hope he stays beyond then but I wouldn't begrudge him a move if he does want to go, if he keeps up this form then he deserves a chance in the Premier League, hopefully it's with us next season but if not then he should command a decent fee, invest it wisely and we'll be stronger in the long term because of it as was the case with the Collins deal.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 5, 2021 8:45:40 GMT
Unless we have to sell for FFP reasons we should keep him until the summer assuming he is happy to stay, and why wouldn't he be happy to stay until the end of the season as he is going to be playing every game he is fit for and that probably wouldn't be the case in the Premier League. I hope he stays beyond then but I wouldn't begrudge him a move if he does want to go, if he keeps up this form then he deserves a chance in the Premier League, hopefully it's with us next season but if not then he should command a decent fee, invest it wisely and we'll be stronger in the long term because of it as was the case with the Collins deal. This with bells on.
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Post by devsad on Oct 5, 2021 9:46:08 GMT
My Everton supporting mate assures me that Everton do not have a pot to piss in at the moment.
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