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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2021 0:10:27 GMT
Get promoted. Simple.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 2, 2021 0:16:43 GMT
Ive said it before and ill say it again,hes better than Shawcross.......best central defender we've had in many a year. Don't think you can compare. Shawcross was very different, a superb out and out defender. A top level player for years. Harry is a ball player who hasn't played at that level yet but I've no doubt he will do well in the premier league
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Post by hyaduck on Oct 2, 2021 3:13:18 GMT
Been saying this for weeks, he’s gone in January. Need to plan now. It would be good to get Collins back on loan as he’s not enjoying Burnley and not playing.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 2, 2021 3:44:25 GMT
Been saying this for weeks, he’s gone in January. Need to plan now. It would be good to get Collins back on loan as he’s not enjoying Burnley and not playing. In January he still technically would’ve signed a long term deal under a year ago. Plus there’s a premium to be payed in Jan Any perspective buyer has to be looking at at least £25-30m
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Post by hyaduck on Oct 2, 2021 4:02:46 GMT
Been saying this for weeks, he’s gone in January. Need to plan now. It would be good to get Collins back on loan as he’s not enjoying Burnley and not playing. In January he still technically would’ve signed a long term deal under a year ago. Plus there’s a premium to be payed in Jan Any perspective buyer has to be looking at at least £25-30m Not sure we’d get that much, simply because he’s only been tested in the championship.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 2, 2021 4:19:45 GMT
Simple....Keep Soutaar, Powell & Campbell fit and in the squad, and we won't be far off play offs no doubt We haven't got to sell!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 2, 2021 5:55:13 GMT
This discussion cropped up a few weeks ago and the usual know nowts were poo pooing him - too slow, crap at 1 on 1’s only played in the championship etc etc. If anyone wants to check the thread out it’s on the second page down. Its interesting but not unexpected to see who’s changed their tune in the space of a fortnight.
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Post by TinkerT on Oct 2, 2021 6:01:53 GMT
It's going take a brave manager in the PL pay what we want for him. Anything north of 30m for a unproven PL defender. We know Teflon would accept anything over 20 though.
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Post by george2again on Oct 2, 2021 6:05:49 GMT
In January he still technically would’ve signed a long term deal under a year ago. Plus there’s a premium to be payed in Jan Any perspective buyer has to be looking at at least £25-30m Not sure we’d get that much, simply because he’s only been tested in the championship. Wouldn’t the biggest part of any fee be that be we won’t get close to being promoted without him ? 25-30 million is chips for him.
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Post by zerps on Oct 2, 2021 6:06:49 GMT
Make him captain asap
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Post by Simon Drainrod on Oct 2, 2021 6:25:56 GMT
Loved Vinny too, but Souttar is a class above. There’s a real positivity amd belief running right through the team right now, O’Neil has to be given credit for this, but Harry Souttar is immense. Reminds me of Vince Overson who I had a huge man crush on
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Post by heworksardtho on Oct 2, 2021 6:31:36 GMT
He’s going no where stop knicker wetting
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Post by Trouserdog on Oct 2, 2021 6:37:52 GMT
I don't think it's hyperbole to say he's Champions League quality.
I wouldn't swap him for any defender in the country at the moment outside the real big names, which I know is a hell of a statement but he's that good. An absolute beast physically, unbeatable in the air, times tackles superbly, but can bring the ball out and ping 50 yard passes to feet. £250,000 from Dundee Utd wasn't it? Who signed him? Seems to have been here forever, and we've played an absolute blinder in how we've developed him. We owe a big thank you to Fleetwood for those loans. Brought him on so much.
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Post by theonlooker on Oct 2, 2021 6:59:51 GMT
I don't think it's hyperbole to say he's Champions League quality. I wouldn't swap him for any defender in the country at the moment outside the real big names, which I know is a hell of a statement but he's that good. An absolute beast physically, unbeatable in the air, times tackles superbly, but can bring the ball out and ping 50 yard passes to feet. £250,000 from Dundee Utd wasn't it? Who signed him? Seems to have been here forever, and we've played an absolute blinder in how we've developed him. We owe a big thank you to Fleetwood for those loans. Brought him on so much. People will laugh at you for your opening sentence but I don't think you are far off. He's light years ahead of Joe Rodon for example, who went to Spurs. We owe Joey Barton and Clint Hill a huge thank you. Let's hope Barton is repeating the trick with Conor Taylor at Bristol Rovers.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2021 7:03:20 GMT
I don't think it's hyperbole to say he's Champions League quality. I wouldn't swap him for any defender in the country at the moment outside the real big names, which I know is a hell of a statement but he's that good. An absolute beast physically, unbeatable in the air, times tackles superbly, but can bring the ball out and ping 50 yard passes to feet. £250,000 from Dundee Utd wasn't it? Who signed him? Seems to have been here forever, and we've played an absolute blinder in how we've developed him. We owe a big thank you to Fleetwood for those loans. Brought him on so much. People will laugh at you for your opening sentence but I don't think you are far off. He's light years ahead of Joe Rodon for example, who went to Spurs. We owe Joey Barton and Clint Hill a huge thank you. Let's hope Barton is repeating the trick with Conor Taylor at Bristol Rovers. He is but I don’t think he was ever ready for PL football and his record since has been a struggle that kind of shows it? It dies show though that clubs are willing to buy such players. I think he could be a steady PL player now.
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 2, 2021 7:31:31 GMT
Looked superb even having to play with Chester by his side.🤣 Thought Chester's performance tonight surprised many people, especially those who slag him off BEFORE he's played The fact is, people have opinions, and based on recent history, Chesters inclusion didn't fill people with confidence. As it transpired, he proved everyone wrong tonight and I don't think you'll find a single fan who isn't happy about that. People shouldn't be ridiculed for their opinion as everyone is entitled to it, it would be a pretty boring messageboard/world if everyone refused to offer their thoughts for fear of being ridiculed. Can you imagine how boring this would be if every comment says "I'll wait to comment until after" I've not been happy with a number of things /players /management over the last 5 years or so, some have gone on to prove me "wrong" , doesn't mean that my opinion was "wrong" as it was my opinion at the time, but it does mean that those opinions have been changed. In sideways happy for my mind to be changed, and at the moment, MON is one of those.
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 2, 2021 7:33:14 GMT
In January he still technically would’ve signed a long term deal under a year ago. Plus there’s a premium to be payed in Jan Any perspective buyer has to be looking at at least £25-30m Not sure we’d get that much, simply because he’s only been tested in the championship. We dont need to sell him, so stump up £30 million or fuck off. That should have been the stance with Collins. If they don't meet our valuation then they don't get him.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 2, 2021 7:34:29 GMT
Thought Chester's performance tonight surprised many people, especially those who slag him off BEFORE he's played The fact is, people have opinions, and based on recent history, Chesters inclusion didn't fill people with confidence. As it transpired, he proved everyone wrong tonight and I don't think you'll find a single fan who isn't happy about that. People shouldn't be ridiculed for their opinion as everyone is entitled to it, it would be a pretty boring messageboard/world if everyone refused to offer their thoughts for fear of being ridiculed. Can you imagine how boring this would be if every comment says "I'll wait to comment until after" I've not been happy with a number of things /players /management over the last 5 years or so, some have gone on to prove me "wrong" , doesn't mean that my opinion was "wrong" as it was my opinion at the time, but it does mean that those opinions have been changed. In sideways happy for my mind to be changed, and at the moment, MON is one of those. Keep that car reversing Dean😄👍
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 2, 2021 7:36:56 GMT
The fact is, people have opinions, and based on recent history, Chesters inclusion didn't fill people with confidence. As it transpired, he proved everyone wrong tonight and I don't think you'll find a single fan who isn't happy about that. People shouldn't be ridiculed for their opinion as everyone is entitled to it, it would be a pretty boring messageboard/world if everyone refused to offer their thoughts for fear of being ridiculed. Can you imagine how boring this would be if every comment says "I'll wait to comment until after" I've not been happy with a number of things /players /management over the last 5 years or so, some have gone on to prove me "wrong" , doesn't mean that my opinion was "wrong" as it was my opinion at the time, but it does mean that those opinions have been changed. In sideways happy for my mind to be changed, and at the moment, MON is one of those. Keep that car reversing Dean😄👍 I stand by everything I said last season as it was dire... But... Im happy to say that he is proving me wrong this season and I couldn't be happier at the moment that he is our manager
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 2, 2021 7:38:54 GMT
My biggest fear allways was keeping him in the winter window. I could see teams from Germany and Italy come In for him as well as the teams in the prem. Playoff odds with him must be around 50%. Without him 1%. If he's under contract and we're not screwrd for ffp then the Italians and Germans can fuck off. Stronze/Schlampen.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Oct 2, 2021 7:53:43 GMT
Buy him one of those new houses on Trentham Lakes - that should do it
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 2, 2021 8:30:37 GMT
I don't think it's hyperbole to say he's Champions League quality. I wouldn't swap him for any defender in the country at the moment outside the real big names, which I know is a hell of a statement but he's that good. An absolute beast physically, unbeatable in the air, times tackles superbly, but can bring the ball out and ping 50 yard passes to feet. £250,000 from Dundee Utd wasn't it? Who signed him? Seems to have been here forever, and we've played an absolute blinder in how we've developed him. We owe a big thank you to Fleetwood for those loans. Brought him on so much. Said this for ages, couple of years and he’ll be one of the worlds best I’m absolutely certain.
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Post by apb1 on Oct 2, 2021 8:37:50 GMT
He's in a rich vein of form but I think he won't leave during the season unless there is an offer from Man City or something - which I don't see happening. I'm more worried about him getting injured by some clogger on international duty. It's also unreasonable to think he won't have the odd dip in form too btw.
What's pleasing is we have a crop of young CBs (maybe 2 years behind) who show great promise
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Post by ravey123 on Oct 2, 2021 8:52:12 GMT
Harry Souttar as the reason we got back in the game last night.
For the first 10 or 15 minutes West Brom were all over us by trying to bully Stoke (Without actually creating anything), they were winning all the tackles by being committed in the tackle - step up Souttar who made a couple of real "solid"early interceptions/challenges and you could visibly see the West Brom players start to pull out of challenges with Big H. That soon spread through both teams and the rest is history.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 2, 2021 9:22:49 GMT
Looked superb even having to play with Chester by his side.🤣 Possibly the fact that Chester had a decent game, meant it was not as much of a burden as you think it was?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 2, 2021 9:25:00 GMT
Not sure we’d get that much, simply because he’s only been tested in the championship. We dont need to sell him, so stump up £30 million or fuck off. That should have been the stance with Collins. If they don't meet our valuation then they don't get him. I suspect we needed to sell Collins (or someone of similar quality) to avoid FFP problems. So the need with Collins was to maximise the amount we got for him - and insisting on £30 million was not the way to do that. EDIT: We don't appear to "need" to sell Souttar (FFP probs are much reduced) so we could afford to play hard ball with any bidders.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 2, 2021 9:25:33 GMT
In January he still technically would’ve signed a long term deal under a year ago. Plus there’s a premium to be payed in Jan Any perspective buyer has to be looking at at least £25-30m Not sure we’d get that much, simply because he’s only been tested in the championship. Fine by me we can keep him then 😂😉 Doesn’t seem the sort of lad to kick off to be fair
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Post by eddyclamp on Oct 2, 2021 9:26:35 GMT
I think at some point someone will come in for him,but he won’t be gone in the next window. That would be stupidity, he stays helps us get promoted to grab the riches of the premier league. That dwarfs any fee we may get in the next window
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 2, 2021 9:29:02 GMT
We dont need to sell him, so stump up £30 million or fuck off. That should have been the stance with Collins. If they don't meet our valuation then they don't get him. I suspect we needed to sell Collins (or someone of similar quality) to avoid FFP problems. So the need with Collins was to maximise the amount we got for him - and insisting on £30 million was not the way to do that. Oh absolutely Collins was an FFP sale and we got a fairly good price for him. Said at the end of last season we’ve have to sell one of Collins Harry or Ty. Without seeing Ty back we can’t say for sure but it looks like we’ve made the right decision Particularly with getting Wilmott in for a fraction of the Collins money we haven’t really missed him. Still hope he goes and is successful like
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 2, 2021 9:29:45 GMT
We dont need to sell him, so stump up £30 million or fuck off. That should have been the stance with Collins. If they don't meet our valuation then they don't get him. I suspect we needed to sell Collins (or someone of similar quality) to avoid FFP problems. So the need with Collins was to maximise the amount we got for him - and insisting on £30 million was not the way to do that. And this is exactly why they need to get rid of FFP as all its doing is forcing clubs outside of the Prem to sell their young crown jewels for a fraction of their worth (should be decided by the club that holds the contract) to a premier league club who will more than likely let the player rot on the bench and throw away their career. I k ow that doesn't happen 100% of the time but it happens far too often. So frustrating that we are one of the richest clubs in the country (in terms of financial backing from the owners) yet we have to operate with our arms tied behind our back and be held to ransom by "bigger boys"
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