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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 15, 2021 21:28:32 GMT
Where to start?
I didn't think it was a penalty. The goalkeeper would have hit him had he not dived, but the fact the he launched himself out of the way meant that there was no actual foul. I know that my views are increasingly divorced from the reality of modern football, but it's fair enough - you get a penalty if you're actually fouled, rather than being awarded one out of sympathy.
See my statement above about the modern game, I just didn't see Smith's tackle as anything other than a fair, ball-winning challenge. I take the crowd noise to mean that 15,000 other people watching live thought the same.
The fight was bizarre. It just turned into a big group hug, with a disturbing amount of hair pulling. Modern football, I guess. I don't think there's really any excuse for Barnsley's assistant, who sparked the whole thing, but it would be daft if Holden or Delay ended up with a touchline ban.
I'd love to hear the referee explain how and why he awarded 6 minutes of injury time after a ten minute brawl that finished in the 92nd minute and then blew up on 95.
At the end of it, we barely made a tackle all night and had a bloke attack our assistant manager, but we somehow had three men sent off?!
What a fun game.
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Post by franklin on Sept 15, 2021 21:30:44 GMT
I've had very similar thoughts on what went on tonight.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 15, 2021 21:32:14 GMT
Clear pen.
Not a red card (was a yellow).
The brawl, meh
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 15, 2021 21:34:05 GMT
Their coach threw a girls punch at Holden. Should be thrown in jail with Begumđ
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2021 21:36:11 GMT
I think itâs pathetic to see a group of grown men âbrawlingâ if that is not their chosen profession.
It started over what, Holden touching their coach? What a pathetic excuse for everyone to âlook hardâ.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2021 21:36:11 GMT
Where to start? I didn't think it was a penalty. The goalkeeper would have hit him had he not dived, but the fact the he launched himself out of the way meant that there was no actual foul. I know that my views are increasingly divorced from the reality of modern football, but it's fair enough - you get a penalty if you're actually fouled, rather than being awarded one out of sympathy. See my statement above about the modern game, I just didn't see Smith's tackle as anything other than a fair, ball-winning challenge. I take the crowd noise to mean that 15,000 other people watching live thought the same. The fight was bizarre. It just turned into a big group hug, with a disturbing amount of hair pulling. Modern football, I guess. I don't think there's really any excuse for Barnsley's assistant, who sparked the whole thing, but it would be daft if Holden or Delay ended up with a touchline ban. I'd love to hear the referee explain how and why he awarded 6 minutes of injury time after a ten minute brawl that finished in the 92nd minute and then blew up on 95. At the end of it, we barely made a tackle all night and had a bloke attack our assistant manager, but we somehow had three men sent off?! What a fun game. Hardly a new thing in the game. There seems to be one rule for keepers. If a forward's momentum takes him near a keeper is a foul. A keeper comes out and can take a player out no problem. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 15, 2021 21:36:54 GMT
I donât think it was a pen but can see why it was given.
The red should have been a yellow and was only a sending off because of the Barnsley players reaction. Funnily enough there was no injury and he was straight back on.
The ref totally got the sending offs wrong. The only 2 that should have gone were the 2 Barnsley assistants who totally lost control. Holden should have got a yellow for encroaching in their managers area but there managers made himself look a fool saying he was âattacked.â
If he wants to see an attack he needs to look at his 2 mates.
The panel got it spot on hopefully so will the FA when they review it.
I donât know if the ref was trying to makeup for giving a soft pen but he was shocking second half. He got so much wrong. He literally played no injury time.
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Post by wuzza on Sept 15, 2021 21:37:31 GMT
Pen would be given 9 times out of 10.
Sending off much less clear cut. Looked a booking at worse in real time.
The touchline melee was just a bit silly - fines for both clubs I suppose.
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Post by greenman on Sept 15, 2021 21:39:31 GMT
Not a pen the keeper withdrew from the challenge, red was harsh but no point appealing and the brawl rather pathetic
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Post by milky on Sept 15, 2021 21:41:01 GMT
He completely fucked up the time added on surely ?
Unless there was literally no time added on originally prior to the brawl ?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 15, 2021 21:42:15 GMT
He completely fucked up the time added on surely ? Unless there was literally no time added on originally prior to the brawl ? there would be for the subs. |
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 15, 2021 21:43:48 GMT
Pen looked a dive in Real time. Not seen it back. What on earth was Vrancic doing?
Red, again live. My thoughts are simple. Piss poor first touch, panic from Smith who lunges in studs first. From there on in you are in the lap of the gods. A player goes down and a ref looking to even up a penalty aswell as being on TV and you are playing the odds big time.
The brawl? Handbags.
The ref was on TV and he wanted everyone to know it.
The result? All our fault. We had the chances and blew it.
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Post by milky on Sept 15, 2021 21:44:47 GMT
He completely fucked up the time added on surely ? Unless there was literally no time added on originally prior to the brawl ? there would be for the subs. It's very rare for any game these days to have less than 3 mins time added on ,that seems the minimum. By my reckoning he blew about 4 minutes short. |
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Post by twobanksoffour on Sept 15, 2021 21:46:38 GMT
Personally, I thought the pen was correct but Smith shouldn't have got red. But those points are debatable, I guess.
But as for the missing injury time...that isn't even a matter of debate - it's just counting.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2021 21:51:16 GMT
Personally, I thought the pen was correct but Smith shouldn't have got red. But those points are debatable, I guess. But as for the missing injury time...that isn't even a matter of debate - it's just counting. If pen given against us I couldn't complain. Keeper comes out and makes no contact with the ball. Keepers are ridiculously over protected. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 15, 2021 21:51:48 GMT
One thing to say about the whole game tonight, regardless of the rights and wrongs, is that I shan't forget it for a long time. Looking back on it, it was all very funny.
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Post by twobanksoffour on Sept 15, 2021 21:53:55 GMT
Personally, I thought the pen was correct but Smith shouldn't have got red. But those points are debatable, I guess. But as for the missing injury time...that isn't even a matter of debate - it's just counting. If pen given against us I couldn't complain. Keeper comes out and makes no contact with the ball. Keepers are ridiculously over protected. Exactly...seems to be different rules for keepers. If it's a foul, it's a pen and that same challenge made by a defender on the halfway line (for example) would be a foul. |
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Sept 15, 2021 21:56:55 GMT
All of it, for me, makes great entertainment đ
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Post by sportsman on Sept 15, 2021 22:01:37 GMT
That ref was absolute shit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 15, 2021 22:02:54 GMT
One thing to say about the whole game tonight, regardless of the rights and wrongs, is that I shan't forget it for a long time. Looking back on it, it was all very funny. It was fantastic entertainment. |
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Post by stokecitydom on Sept 15, 2021 22:08:48 GMT
The Barnsley manager said that he was âattackedâ by Dean Holden.
Absolutely ridiculous, one team down to 10 men trying to play the game, the opposition coaching staff doing their best to keep the ball and waste time.
Handbags but it was definitely entertaining.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 15, 2021 22:11:23 GMT
One thing to say about the whole game tonight, regardless of the rights and wrongs, is that I shan't forget it for a long time. Looking back on it, it was all very funny. It was fantastic entertainment. Yes you can't say we didn't get our money's worth tonight. Except we didn't get our money's worth because the useless ref cut the game short by about 4 mins  |
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Post by jwhpotter on Sept 15, 2021 22:11:32 GMT
Never a pen
Never a red
Ref was wank!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 15, 2021 22:13:51 GMT
It was fantastic entertainment. Yes you can't say we didn't get our money's worth tonight. Except we didn't get our money's worth because the useless ref cut the game short by about 4 mins Hahahaha what was that about? |
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Post by ab61 on Sept 15, 2021 22:15:59 GMT
Did the board go up for added time. Donât think so. If not why not !?
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Post by thepottypotter on Sept 15, 2021 22:19:16 GMT
It was fantastic entertainment. Yes you can't say we didn't get our money's worth tonight. Except we didn't get our money's worth because the useless ref cut the game short by about 4 mins It never ceases to amaze me that football still lets the ref manage the time of the game. If someone can give me a good justification why there isnât a different system with someone else managing the time, then I am all ears |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 15, 2021 22:19:26 GMT
Yes you can't say we didn't get our money's worth tonight. Except we didn't get our money's worth because the useless ref cut the game short by about 4 mins Hahahaha what was that about? Four subs, a sending off and a Barnsley player with his leg amputated (although fortunately he manfully struggled on) a 5 minute mass brawl on the 90th minute and 3 further sendings off and he played about 3 minutes of additional time. You tell me. In the second half it was one of the worst refereeing performances I've seen in a while. It was almost like he was trying to make up for giving the softest of penalties. Who'd a thunk it. By the way their keeper wtf. Never have a game like that ever in his life. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 15, 2021 22:20:59 GMT
Did the board go up for added time. Donât think so. If not why not !? I think Rory was twatting their manager with it. |
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Post by ab61 on Sept 15, 2021 22:22:58 GMT
Did the board go up for added time. Donât think so. If not why not !? I think Rory was twatting their manager with it. đ |
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Sept 15, 2021 22:27:36 GMT
Did the board go up for added time. Donât think so. If not why not !? Good question, I didn't see it go up or any announcement regarding injury time! |
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