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Post by thepottypotter on Sept 15, 2021 22:29:25 GMT
Did the board go up for added time. Don’t think so. If not why not !? I think Rory was twatting their manager with it.
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Post by s7oke on Sept 15, 2021 22:30:14 GMT
He completely fucked up the time added on surely ? Unless there was literally no time added on originally prior to the brawl ? there would be for the subs. And about an hour as he kept pointing to his watch all the time every time they time wasted But didn’t have the guts to do anything about it Totally inept display Gutless
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 15, 2021 22:30:39 GMT
Did the board go up for added time. Don’t think so. If not why not !? The referee had lost control and just wanted to get off the pitch. If they'd have put a board showing 2 mins they would have got pelters so I think they just decided to play a token extra few mins and get off.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 15, 2021 22:41:31 GMT
Did the board go up for added time. Don’t think so. If not why not !? The referee had lost control and just wanted to get off the pitch. If they'd have put a board showing 2 mins they would have got pelters so I think they just decided to play a token extra few mins and get off. That was exactly how I interpreted it. Shithouse bottler.
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Post by march4 on Sept 15, 2021 22:44:10 GMT
No pen.
No ref card for Smith.
The only coach to be sent off should have been the one who threw the punch. Bizarrely the ref let him off.
And why did the ref end the game early?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 15, 2021 22:47:08 GMT
Holden literally held his hands up and was laughing throughout the whole debacle, how he got a red card is beyond me.
I think Delap was sent off for slapping the coaches bald head.
As a side note did they find that Barnsley manager sleeping rough on a park bench when they appointed him, scruffy bastard with his piss stained joggers on……
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 15, 2021 22:49:22 GMT
Holden sent off on his birthday for literally nothing
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 15, 2021 22:51:25 GMT
Holden literally held his hands up and was laughing throughout the whole debacle, how he got a red card is beyond me. I think Delap was sent off for slapping the coaches bald head. As a side note did they find that Barnsley managed sleeping rough on a park bench when they appointed him, scruffy bastard with his piss stained joggers on…… He looks like a 70's German porn star. So I've been told.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 15, 2021 22:54:45 GMT
Holden literally held his hands up and was laughing throughout the whole debacle, how he got a red card is beyond me. I think Delap was sent off for slapping the coaches bald head. As a side note did they find that Barnsley manager sleeping rough on a park bench when they appointed him, scruffy bastard with his piss stained joggers on…… He looked like he’d just ran in from his park run😄A right moaning bastard as well
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 15, 2021 23:00:35 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 15, 2021 23:02:57 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 15, 2021 23:05:01 GMT
I would imagine the club will
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 16, 2021 0:15:15 GMT
Unfortunately Holden started it all by going into their technical area and pushing their assistant out of the way so I can see why he got sent off. In the end it all boils down to a weak ref who let them waste time on their own free kicks, throw ins and continually stop us taking things quickly by kicking the ball away. I reckon he forgot to stop his watch for the fracas so just added on the time they'd wasted. My bug bear is ref's who tap their watch to show they are adding on the time but that's not the point. They are doing it to slow down the momentum of the opposition and spoiling the game for fans. I don't go to football to watch a player stroll 50 yards to take a free kick and ask the linesman exactly which blade of grass to put the ball on before carefully placing it and rolling it about to make sure it's in exactly the right place. I can understand why Holden was so frustrated. I even suspect the gk aimed his clearance to the bench so they could keep the ball out of play for longer.
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Post by trout-licker on Sept 16, 2021 0:35:15 GMT
Smith had a poor touch and was stretching, when you do that you're in trouble.
Didn't look like a red at the time and after watching the highlights there was no 'oooohhhhh' from the crowd. I didn't even think it was a foul
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 16, 2021 5:48:13 GMT
Unfortunately Holden started it all by going into their technical area and pushing their assistant out of the way so I can see why he got sent off. In the end it all boils down to a weak ref who let them waste time on their own free kicks, throw ins and continually stop us taking things quickly by kicking the ball away. I reckon he forgot to stop his watch for the fracas so just added on the time they'd wasted. My bug bear is ref's who tap their watch to show they are adding on the time but that's not the point. They are doing it to slow down the momentum of the opposition and spoiling the game for fans. I don't go to football to watch a player stroll 50 yards to take a free kick and ask the linesman exactly which blade of grass to put the ball on before carefully placing it and rolling it about to make sure it's in exactly the right place. I can understand why Holden was so frustrated. I even suspect the gk aimed his clearance to the bench so they could keep the ball out of play for longer. The only thing Holden did was encroach and push the manager to get the ball. A yellow but not a red. It’s something that often happens without punishment. He got the red because of what happened afterwards. The guy who slapped him on the back of the head and the asst who completely lost it should have got reds. Didn’t see enough of what Delap did to comment on his. For Smiths red the reaction of the Barnsley player got him sent off. Going down like he’d had his leg broken. The refs performance in the second half was woeful total loss of control.
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Post by charlesjefferson on Sept 16, 2021 5:54:44 GMT
I didn't get where I am today without realising that if you're actually going to have a ruck, do it properly!
Francis Lee vs Norman Hunter set the standard!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 16, 2021 6:02:46 GMT
I didn't get where I am today without realising that if you're actually going to have a ruck, do it properly! Francis Lee vs Norman Hunter set the standard!
Leeds really we’re a horrible side under Revie
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 16, 2021 6:02:47 GMT
Holden literally held his hands up and was laughing throughout the whole debacle, how he got a red card is beyond me. I think Delap was sent off for slapping the coaches bald head. As a side note did they find that Barnsley manager sleeping rough on a park bench when they appointed him, scruffy bastard with his piss stained joggers on…… I was going to comment on their manager but didn’t want anyone to be offended on behalf of tramps
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Post by westlandstokie on Sept 16, 2021 6:04:23 GMT
Where to start? I didn't think it was a penalty. The goalkeeper would have hit him had he not dived, but the fact the he launched himself out of the way meant that there was no actual foul. I know that my views are increasingly divorced from the reality of modern football, but it's fair enough - you get a penalty if you're actually fouled, rather than being awarded one out of sympathy. See my statement above about the modern game, I just didn't see Smith's tackle as anything other than a fair, ball-winning challenge. I take the crowd noise to mean that 15,000 other people watching live thought the same. The fight was bizarre. It just turned into a big group hug, with a disturbing amount of hair pulling. Modern football, I guess. I don't think there's really any excuse for Barnsley's assistant, who sparked the whole thing, but it would be daft if Holden or Delay ended up with a touchline ban. I'd love to hear the referee explain how and why he awarded 6 minutes of injury time after a ten minute brawl that finished in the 92nd minute and then blew up on 95. At the end of it, we barely made a tackle all night and had a bloke attack our assistant manager, but we somehow had three men sent off?! What a fun game. My view on the ref is he had an ok first half…no better or worse than most in this league. I think he somehow found out at half time that he had made the wrong call for the penalty and he lost the plot a bit. Maybe I’m wrong as I sit in the Boothen and it’s too far away to be certain and I haven’t seen a replay of it. A bigger concern is how poor we were in front of goal…we could/should have scored 4 or 5. Oh well it’s just one game…there will be lots of ups and downs this season.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 16, 2021 6:12:31 GMT
Song for the prick when a large away following heads to Barnsley.
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Post by steinosjockstrap on Sept 16, 2021 6:20:01 GMT
If you look at the melee, Holden is actually having a laugh with Woodrow, so it can't have been that bad!
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Post by serpico on Sept 16, 2021 6:21:53 GMT
Nobody should have been sent off for that "brawl" because, as far as i could see, there wasn't even a single punch thrown! its also all part of the entertainment, football is way too soft these days, some physicality should be allowed.
The red card should have been a yellow at most, its not like he went in and stamped his foot down on the side of the guys leg.
As for the penalty, the keeper rushed out and dived at his feet, Surridge knocked it round him and did what any good striker would do.
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2021 6:47:03 GMT
Nobody should have been sent off for that "brawl" because, as far as i could see, there wasn't even a single punch thrown! its also all part of the entertainment, football is way too soft these days, some physicality should be allowed. The red card should have been a yellow at most, its not like he went in and stamped his foot down on the side of the guys leg. As for the penalty, the keeper rushed out and dived at his feet, Surridge knocked it round him and did what any good striker would do. The Barnsley coach threw a punch
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Post by wearestoke80 on Sept 16, 2021 6:52:23 GMT
Nobody should have been sent off for that "brawl" because, as far as i could see, there wasn't even a single punch thrown! its also all part of the entertainment, football is way too soft these days, some physicality should be allowed. The red card should have been a yellow at most, its not like he went in and stamped his foot down on the side of the guys leg. As for the penalty, the keeper rushed out and dived at his feet, Surridge knocked it round him and did what any good striker would do. You say football is way too soft and then go on to say that it should of been a penalty when he clearly dived. Make your mind up.
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 16, 2021 6:53:02 GMT
I didn't get where I am today without realising that if you're actually going to have a ruck, do it properly! Francis Lee vs Norman Hunter set the standard!
I do believe thats good old Noel Blake at 3:07 having 'bants' with Keeley
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 16, 2021 9:05:32 GMT
Smith had a poor touch and was stretching, when you do that you're in trouble. Didn't look like a red at the time and after watching the highlights there was no 'oooohhhhh' from the crowd. I didn't even think it was a foul No as has been said I think it was the massive over reaction of the Barnsley players frantically waving the physio on as if his leg had fell off that convinced the spineless twat to send him off.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 16, 2021 9:18:30 GMT
If pen given against us I couldn't complain. Keeper comes out and makes no contact with the ball. Keepers are ridiculously over protected. Exactly... seems to be different rules for keepers. If it's a foul, it's a pen and that same challenge made by a defender on the halfway line (for example) would be a foul. Totally agree. The only thing different about the keeper is supposed to be that, inside the penalty area he is allowed to use his hands whereas other players aren't. If he doesn't touch the ball (and last night the keeper didn't touch the ball when he rushed at Surridge) then the only question for the ref to answer is "did the keeper obstruct Surridge or would he have obstructed him if Surridge hadn't hurdled the challenge?" If the answer is yes (and it was) then it is a penalty. There is no rule that says a player approaching goal with the ball has to allow the keeper to collide with him or he doesn't get a penalty.
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Post by pb1863 on Sept 16, 2021 9:57:27 GMT
Nobody should have been sent off for that "brawl" because, as far as i could see, there wasn't even a single punch thrown! its also all part of the entertainment, football is way too soft these days, some physicality should be allowed. The red card should have been a yellow at most, its not like he went in and stamped his foot down on the side of the guys leg. As for the penalty, the keeper rushed out and dived at his feet, Surridge knocked it round him and did what any good striker would do. The Barnsley coach threw a punch Just watched the replay and the Barnsley coach definitely threw a punch. What I don’t get is how additional time wasn’t added
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Sept 16, 2021 10:01:26 GMT
Have we got a season of the opposition coming with plans to waste time .? I take it a compliment teams have worked out the only way to get a result at ours to shithouse the game
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Post by leicspotter on Sept 16, 2021 10:07:19 GMT
With regard to Smith's red card, just watched the replay and it was clearly the liner who said something to the ref. Ridiculous decision. For 90 mins these liners can't even decide which way to give a throw in unless the ref tells them, then, all of a sudden, they are telling him to send someone off...ludicrous Assistant referees my arse, they are liners and not even doing that properly
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