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Post by march4 on Aug 30, 2021 23:00:09 GMT
Clearly a very good footballer. But I want him to be used how the Norwich fans suggested. He’s had 3 league starts and had 1 good game and 2 shitters. He needs to be used from the bench and as an option to rest Powell. As usual you're exaggerating. I don't think he's had a bad game yet. Average in a couple, but still looked class when he's had the ball. You're basing this opinion on him solely on what Norwich fans said. I'm not saying it'll prove to be incorrect, but let's wait until there's enough first-hand evidence before we start declaring what Stoke need to do with a player. It's still very early in the season, and all players should still be fresh- even Mikel didn't start wilting until the nights were drawing in. I certainly haven't seen Vrancic struggling physically yet. I thought he was disappointing against Forest. The game went on around him. I know he was part of the move for the goal and that is important but it was hardly a difficult pass he delivered. Against Fulham he was anonymous when they had the ball. He is a last 20 minute player against bottom half teams. He is not a 90 minute player nor one who will chase the ball. I good acquisition to unlock tired, stubborn defences.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 30, 2021 23:00:48 GMT
And he's played two less league games than most of the others.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 31, 2021 7:57:17 GMT
And he's played two less league games than most of the others. Some people wouldn't see a good footballer if they tripped over one.Some fans used to criticize Peter Dobing FFS.
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Post by tachyon on Aug 31, 2021 14:11:10 GMT
The Norwich fans "better from the bench" is an illusion.
Is Vrancic more creative from the bench? Yes, he creates an extra 0.07 expected assist per 90 from the bench compared to starting.
Is Vrancic better at getting on the end of chances from the bench? Yes, he has the same uptick as assists, compared to starting.
But *teams* are more creative as the game progresses.
27% of goals come in the final 20% of the game, which is when Vrancic (the "supersub") played in the Championship for Norwich.
Is his uptick as a sub any different to other creative players as a sub? No.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2021 15:02:51 GMT
And he's played two less league games than most of the others. Some people wouldn't see a good footballer if they tripped over one.Some fans used to criticize Peter Dobing FFS. No is saying he’s not a good footballer 🤔😂
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 1, 2021 16:35:52 GMT
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Post by liathroid on Sept 30, 2021 7:41:58 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 30, 2021 7:48:59 GMT
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Post by moon on Sept 30, 2021 7:50:40 GMT
Not at all, well done to him, it just shows how well he is playing at the moment.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 30, 2021 7:53:16 GMT
Not for him it isn't! Well deserved anyway. In the long run it may benefit us if we get the reputation of reviving players' international careers. I'd rather that than be thought of as a club who represented the graveyard for international careers.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 30, 2021 7:54:15 GMT
Not at all, well done to him, it just shows how well he is playing at the moment. It does, crap for us though. He could do with a nice week off.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 30, 2021 7:55:13 GMT
Not for him it isn't! Well deserved anyway. In the long run it may benefit us if we get the reputation of reviving players' international careers. I'd rather that that be thought of as a club who represented the graveyard for international careers. I mean he hasn’t been picked for yonks so I don’t think that could be labelled anyway. Still not having it’s anything but bad news for us though.
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Post by 16quidachuck on Sept 30, 2021 9:21:58 GMT
Not for him it isn't! Well deserved anyway. In the long run it may benefit us if we get the reputation of reviving players' international careers. I'd rather that that be thought of as a club who represented the graveyard for international careers. I mean he hasn’t been picked for yonks so I don’t think that could be labelled anyway. Still not having it’s anything but bad news for us though. Fair play to him but the weeks rest would have been great for him and us. Even if he doesn't play for Bosnia it will be a lot of travelling. I'll be honest i haven't looked at who they are playing mind.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 1, 2021 14:48:16 GMT
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 1, 2021 14:53:40 GMT
I do agree with Bayern that he’s been overplayed. However his output has been brilliant. I wonder how many of these ‘chances’ are corners though.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 1, 2021 15:15:25 GMT
I do agree with Bayern that he’s been overplayed. However his output has been brilliant. I wonder how many of these ‘chances’ are corners though. Wouldn't matter if everyone of them was a corner in fairness, a chance is a chance. Agree he's been brilliant........
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 1, 2021 21:01:33 GMT
What is it with Blakeman calling him Ver-rancic
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 1, 2021 21:03:18 GMT
Played well tonight.
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 1, 2021 21:04:14 GMT
Rolls Royce of a player.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 1, 2021 21:04:59 GMT
Mustard.
I’d keep him for another year.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Oct 1, 2021 21:08:39 GMT
Really really exciting player to watch, very clever player.
Every free kick near the box is a threat with him at the end of it
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2021 0:28:13 GMT
His best complete game tonight easily. Having the two behind him allows him to have a breather but it also allowed him to get more stuck in. Because they were actually being held up and he could win the ball from the other side .
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