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Post by kustokie on Jun 10, 2021 12:31:21 GMT
All strikers, even Harry Kane, are only as good as the players creating chances. We don’t have one player that can put in a decent cross.
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Post by hyaduck on Jun 10, 2021 13:26:39 GMT
If O’Neill signs him he needs ducking. After Brown he can’t get away with another old age donkey. There are plenty of good young players in Germany, Spain etc, he just needs to look. That’s if he wants to save his job. Brown is 23 and this obsession you seem to have with all things foreign is hilarious. You are aware of the post Brexit restrictions on continental players coming to play in the UK I presume? I voted to remain so don’t have a dig at me
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 10, 2021 13:47:28 GMT
Brown is 23 and this obsession you seem to have with all things foreign is hilarious. You are aware of the post Brexit restrictions on continental players coming to play in the UK I presume? I voted to remain so don’t have a dig at me Me too, but that’s the situation we are in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 14:00:31 GMT
Brown is 23 and this obsession you seem to have with all things foreign is hilarious. You are aware of the post Brexit restrictions on continental players coming to play in the UK I presume? I voted to remain so don’t have a dig at me Its much harder to get players in from Europe now though, right? They have to either be part English, or get merits from being at a top club/have X caps at international level/cost xx million. We are pretty limited to buying English now. Young players at top clubs, or with international experience aren't coming to Stoke any time soon. Similarly, we don't have the money to just overcome these limitations.
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Post by lordb on Jun 10, 2021 16:18:10 GMT
All strikers, even Harry Kane, are only as good as the players creating chances. We don’t have one player that can put in a decent cross. That's one reason very keen for Clarke to come back
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 10, 2021 17:43:54 GMT
Looks like a MON wet dream, a 30+ year old striker who doesn't score enough.
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Post by leicspotter on Jun 10, 2021 18:14:53 GMT
All strikers, even Harry Kane, are only as good as the players creating chances. We don’t have one player that can put in a decent cross. Exactly this. The team is the sum of its parts...we might well need a new striker, but creativity is surely the most pressing issue?
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Post by BuzzB on Jun 10, 2021 20:51:28 GMT
All strikers, even Harry Kane, are only as good as the players creating chances. We don’t have one player that can put in a decent cross. Exactly this. The team is the sum of its parts...we might well need a new striker, but creativity is surely the most pressing issue? Foden Shaw and Chilwell can all get decent crosses in, its all about how brave Southgate is with his selection and intent. He can be either attacking or cagey, I have a feeling safety sam will take over against Croatia.
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Post by BuzzB on Jun 10, 2021 21:15:12 GMT
Exactly this. The team is the sum of its parts...we might well need a new striker, but creativity is surely the most pressing issue? Foden Shaw and Chilwell can all get decent crosses in, its all about how brave Southgate is with his selection and intent. He can be either attacking or cagey, I have a feeling safety sam will take over against Croatia. Blonde moment. Please excuse Thought I was on the Engand Croatia thread
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 10, 2021 23:06:03 GMT
Reminds me of a stunning Blonde of my acquiantance. We were a small group in a bar, and one guy found a mistake with a round of drinks we had ordered, and declared that he had to go back to speak with the Bimbo barmaid. Ginny said, "oh, is her name Bimbo. I think Bimbo's a nice name. I wouldn't mind being called Bimbo." And so she was. For ever. Mind you she did wear T shirts that said things like "I'm a natural Blonde, please speak slowly," and "Have a Blonde moment every day."
Sorry to digress but having a strange night with Wine and music written by Jim Steinman.
Edit. Do we still hear the expression, "Blond Moment" much these days? Except when BuzzB uses it.
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Post by hyaduck on Jun 10, 2021 23:31:03 GMT
If O’Neill signs him he needs ducking. After Brown he can’t get away with another old age donkey. There are plenty of good young players in Germany, Spain etc, he just needs to look. That’s if he wants to save his job. Brown is 23 and this obsession you seem to have with all things foreign is hilarious. You are aware of the post Brexit restrictions on continental players coming to play in the UK I presume? Not hilarious at all. All the best coaches in the UK are foreign, the better players in the UK are foreign. Not rocket science.
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 10, 2021 23:39:14 GMT
Brown is 23 and this obsession you seem to have with all things foreign is hilarious. You are aware of the post Brexit restrictions on continental players coming to play in the UK I presume? Not hilarious at all. All the best coaches in the UK are foreign, the better players in the UK are foreign. Not rocket science. Even if that’s true (and it’s highly debatable) we aren’t in any position to sign “the better players” in the UK are we? For every successful foreign manager there’s been a duffer appointed as well. The two foreign coaches we had were both jokers.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 10, 2021 23:45:38 GMT
Well Gudjon did a good job. And I wouldn't exactly say that Johan failed!
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 10, 2021 23:48:06 GMT
Well Gudjon did a good job. And I wouldn't exactly say that Johan failed! Highly debatable
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Post by hyaduck on Jun 10, 2021 23:49:19 GMT
Not hilarious at all. All the best coaches in the UK are foreign, the better players in the UK are foreign. Not rocket science. Even if that’s true (and it’s highly debatable) we aren’t in any position to sign “the better players” in the UK are we? For every successful foreign manager there’s been a duffer appointed as well. The two foreign coaches we had were both jokers. Percentage wise, we've had far more British 'duffers'
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 10, 2021 23:53:48 GMT
Even if that’s true (and it’s highly debatable) we aren’t in any position to sign “the better players” in the UK are we? For every successful foreign manager there’s been a duffer appointed as well. The two foreign coaches we had were both jokers. Percentage wise, we've had far more British 'duffers' Probably, but this British = Crap and Foreign = Quality theory is a ludicrous generalisation.
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Post by hyaduck on Jun 11, 2021 0:59:50 GMT
Lots of British coaches are prehistoric in comparison to foreign coaches. Not all but lots are still stuck in the 70s
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 5:27:45 GMT
Percentage wise, we've had far more British 'duffers' Probably but this British = Crap and Foreign = Quality theory is a ludicrous generalisation. Seems to be the same person repeating this daft cliche to be honest.
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Post by wilcopotter on Jun 11, 2021 6:08:00 GMT
31 years old and 4 goals in 39 games last season. Looks like the kind of striker we don’t need. Very similar age and scoring rate as Gregory, don’t know why we’re interested if this is true.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jun 11, 2021 6:33:15 GMT
Don’t worry. We can sign him on a 3 year deal, then spend the next 2 and a half years trying to fuck him off to any club daft enough to have him
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Post by thevoid on Jun 11, 2021 6:53:58 GMT
Over 30 and 4 in 39? The final piece of the jigsaw.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 7:22:50 GMT
Anyone who has seen Taylor rather than just look at his Wiki page will know he's a decent player in a naff Forest team. You could look at say Joe Lolley and say he scored twice in 40 odd games if going down that route but a player who would improve us massively. Unfortunately Wiki and imaginary season ticket holder friends seem to be the norm in judging a player. Campbell had 3 in 33 season before last. Not saying Taylor is the answer but not the worst player we could bring in. He isn't Gregory and the Brown comparisons are irrelevant.
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Post by leicspotter on Jun 11, 2021 7:49:23 GMT
Exactly this. The team is the sum of its parts...we might well need a new striker, but creativity is surely the most pressing issue? Foden Shaw and Chilwell can all get decent crosses in, its all about how brave Southgate is with his selection and intent. He can be either attacking or cagey, I have a feeling safety sam will take over against Croatia. just seen your edit
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Post by hyaduck on Jun 11, 2021 7:59:26 GMT
Anyone who has seen Taylor rather than just look at his Wiki page will know he's a decent player in a naff Forest team. You could look at say Joe Lolley and say he scored twice in 40 odd games if going down that route but a player who would improve us massively. Unfortunately Wiki and imaginary season ticket holder friends seem to be the norm in judging a player. Campbell had 3 in 33 season before last. Not saying Taylor is the answer but not the worst player we could bring in. He isn't Gregory and the Brown comparisons are irrelevant. You criticise me for suggesting foreign players and you're praising a 30 year old donkey who couldn't score in a brothel. You couldn't make it up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 8:23:36 GMT
Anyone who has seen Taylor rather than just look at his Wiki page will know he's a decent player in a naff Forest team. You could look at say Joe Lolley and say he scored twice in 40 odd games if going down that route but a player who would improve us massively. Unfortunately Wiki and imaginary season ticket holder friends seem to be the norm in judging a player. Campbell had 3 in 33 season before last. Not saying Taylor is the answer but not the worst player we could bring in. He isn't Gregory and the Brown comparisons are irrelevant. You criticise me for suggesting foreign players and you're praising a 30 year old donkey who couldn't score in a brothel. You couldn't make it up. Speaking of making things up, how's the new kit situation?
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 11, 2021 10:25:04 GMT
Well Gudjon did a good job. And I wouldn't exactly say that Johan failed! Highly debatable It isn't Gudjon not only got us promoted but he bought in investors that kept us alive for a number of years. Boskamp despite having only a handful of players left kept us up comfortably without resorting to boring shit a twice sacked manager served up.
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 11, 2021 11:22:22 GMT
It isn't Gudjon not only got us promoted but he bought in investors that kept us alive for a number of years. Boskamp despite having only a handful of players left kept us up comfortably without resorting to boring shit a twice sacked manager served up. Impossible to prove but we would have been promoted two years earlier than we did if Megson had stayed. In my opinion of course.
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Post by lordb on Jun 11, 2021 11:23:32 GMT
It isn't Gudjon not only got us promoted but he bought in investors that kept us alive for a number of years. Boskamp despite having only a handful of players left kept us up comfortably without resorting to boring shit a twice sacked manager served up. I like both of them however Gudjon failed at Barnsley & Crewe
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 11, 2021 11:28:33 GMT
It isn't Gudjon not only got us promoted but he bought in investors that kept us alive for a number of years. Boskamp despite having only a handful of players left kept us up comfortably without resorting to boring shit a twice sacked manager served up. Impossible to prove but we would have been promoted two years earlier than we did if Megson had stayed. In my opinion of course. Not without the icelanders money we wouldn't and they only came in because of Gudjon and if it wasnt for Rob fucking Styles we'd have gone up the first season, momentum might have carried us forward again then but equally we might have got caught out spending the ITV digital money.
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 11, 2021 11:29:05 GMT
It isn't Gudjon not only got us promoted but he bought in investors that kept us alive for a number of years. Boskamp despite having only a handful of players left kept us up comfortably without resorting to boring shit a twice sacked manager served up. I like both of them however Gudjon failed at Barnsley & Crewe Failing at Crewe is a negative for you
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