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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2021 12:06:04 GMT
Good on them. Absolutely nothing is there to as that why that couldn’t have been us either. Which is why the little old Stoke attitude fucks me off. 100 per cent agree Lee congerton , the head of recruitment at Leicester has about 20 years experience in the game ranging from youth coach to youth coach / recruitment alongside Brendan Rodgers at Chelsea ( 2005 ISH ) to sporting director ( Hamburg ) , head of recruitment Celtic ( not his finest hour !) www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/who-lee-congerton-meet-leicester-2857324A not dissimilar CV to some one like Stuart Webber at Norwich ...20 years in the game heading up recruitment at Liverpool QpR Huddersfield town , Norwich ...blah blah And at Stoke we go for a leek town goalie , a mate of NJ's and a podcaster from Millwall . What do we seriously expect to happen ? If Alex from Millwall , had as much experience as the guys running recruitment at Leicester and Norwich , he would have been Liverpool's head of recruitment at about 5 , and working alongside Brendan Rodgers at Chelsea by the time he's six . Not bad for a lad still at primary school Our recruitment appointments are absolute utter nonsense .
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Post by pottersrule on May 16, 2021 18:09:33 GMT
I can't help it. I have developed an unhealthy resentment towards the title winning, self-styled "Kings of the Midlands" It just don't seem fair that their recruitment of players has been so incredibly good whilst ours has been so incredibly bad. If they win the F.A. Cup today I fear my resentment may tip over into something resembling hatred. I think what your experiencing is a thing called rank jealousy!
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Post by kaney78 on May 16, 2021 23:35:55 GMT
quite like em,seems to be a good bond between the players,owners and fans.a club that has gone through a lot with their chairman dying the way he did.could see what it meant to them to win the cup,fair play to them
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Post by kaney78 on May 16, 2021 23:45:23 GMT
Ambition my friend, we were sweet talking rafa at one stage even had him down the training ground numerous times, then we don't have the money or balls to give him what he wants. Go big or go Home in football, stand still and you go stale. Exactly as we did. One thing our owners cannot be accused of is penny pinching mate. They've spunked millions up the wall over the last few years the useless fuckers the only thing I would criticise the board for is taking too long to get rid if hughes and think that cost us.they backed both rowett and Jones money wise but it just didn't work out,not their fault.although I'm inclined to think Jones was a cheap option at the time myself
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Post by Sfance on May 17, 2021 0:00:04 GMT
Of course it's their fault. . . . I know nothing about Chansiri (Sheffield Wednesday boss), but this is the sort of statement that has been sorely lacking from the SCFC boardroom for many years . . .
"As your owner and chairman, I take full responsibility for everything that happens at our club," Chansiri said in a statement on the club website.
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Post by boothenender on May 17, 2021 7:48:30 GMT
All I can say is Well played Leicester City. Nice to see a "local" club winning something once again. May it long continue. Pushing out the noses of the so called Big 6. The Foxes are now the new benchmark football club. It wasn't that long ago since Stoke City where the Premiership benchmark club, showing other less fashionable clubs how to stand shoulder to shoulder with the big boys. We are now a "park bench" football club. Covered in graffiti,fag ends and covered in bird shit that no one wants to be seen anywhere near to.
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Post by leicspotter on May 17, 2021 9:42:16 GMT
Tell all the people they fucked over when they went into administration that they are a well run club. They built a ground they couldn't afford and administration made is possible. The current ownership is a far cry from back then. The money they put into the community is amazing and the locals do really appreciate it...I still hate them of course and I'm not jealous...much!
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Post by passtheoatcakes on May 17, 2021 9:48:22 GMT
Interesting read that, particularly when you venture down the rabbit hole and check out Sir David Richards, a slight conflict of interest in his past dealings with the Prem and Leicester City methinks. Leicester/Rodgers need to stop bleating about being a ‘small team’, their squad is currently valued at around £450m (ours £55m) and Tellymans (good goal by the way 😎) is valued at £60m.
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Post by spiderpuss on May 17, 2021 9:57:52 GMT
Leicester clearly aren't a small team, maybe they feel small in fan-base, where they can't call on millions of Chinese viewers to boost their coffers. Those squad valuations and the fact they are 3rd with a cup in the bag means they aren't "small". Good on em though and you do wonder what "might have been" with Stoke. Water under the bridge however we can't change the fact we bought in every wanker in the book and decided to chug on with Hughes for a period longer than we should have. If we ever get to a similar premier position we need to be much more canny with our signings and managerial comings and goings.
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Post by spitthedog on May 17, 2021 10:13:55 GMT
Leicester clearly aren't a small team, maybe they feel small in fan-base, where they can't call on millions of Chinese viewers to boost their coffers. Those squad valuations and the fact they are 3rd with a cup in the bag means they aren't "small". Good on em though and you do wonder what "might have been" with Stoke. Water under the bridge however we can't change the fact we bought in every wanker in the book and decided to chug on with Hughes for a period longer than we should have. If we ever get to a similar premier position we need to be much more canny with our signings and managerial comings and goings. Yes, they have some expensive players, but they are increasing the value of their players all the time. Tielemans was not valued at £60m when he went to Leicester, they have doubled his value already, and they were only able to afford players like Tielemans because of previous successful investments in players like Mahrez and Kante who they then sold on for decent fees. They are not a big team though, if they were they would be holding onto players like Kante and Mahrez which they cannot. Man City don't struggle to hold onto their best players as a rule, neither do Chelsea, Man Utd or Liverpool, and when they do they are able to make huge investments in big money players to replace them. This small team/big team categorisation is a bit oversimplified as a way of describing some of these clubs anyway I reckon
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Post by spiderpuss on May 17, 2021 11:22:52 GMT
Leicester clearly aren't a small team, maybe they feel small in fan-base, where they can't call on millions of Chinese viewers to boost their coffers. Those squad valuations and the fact they are 3rd with a cup in the bag means they aren't "small". Good on em though and you do wonder what "might have been" with Stoke. Water under the bridge however we can't change the fact we bought in every wanker in the book and decided to chug on with Hughes for a period longer than we should have. If we ever get to a similar premier position we need to be much more canny with our signings and managerial comings and goings. Yes, they have some expensive players, but they are increasing the value of their players all the time. Tielemans was not valued at £60m when he went to Leicester, they have doubled his value already, and they were only able to afford players like Tielemans because of previous successful investments in players like Mahrez and Kante who they then sold on for decent fees. They are not a big team though, if they were they would be holding onto players like Kante and Mahrez which they cannot. Man City don't struggle to hold onto their best players as a rule, neither do Chelsea, Man Utd or Liverpool, and when they do they are able to make huge investments in big money players to replace them. This small team/big team categorisation is a bit oversimplified as a way of describing some of these clubs anyway I reckon True enough and to be able to hold onto those players then you need a proven pedigree of Chumps league wins, which Leicester can't boast. They are good medium sized club, but definitely not small. It's a good model they've got going there and increasing value of players is something Stoke could well do with. We seem to be able to buy big and sell cheap (loan out?), which doesn't seem the right way around at-all.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2021 11:37:34 GMT
Yes, they have some expensive players, but they are increasing the value of their players all the time. Tielemans was not valued at £60m when he went to Leicester, they have doubled his value already, and they were only able to afford players like Tielemans because of previous successful investments in players like Mahrez and Kante who they then sold on for decent fees. They are not a big team though, if they were they would be holding onto players like Kante and Mahrez which they cannot. Man City don't struggle to hold onto their best players as a rule, neither do Chelsea, Man Utd or Liverpool, and when they do they are able to make huge investments in big money players to replace them. This small team/big team categorisation is a bit oversimplified as a way of describing some of these clubs anyway I reckon True enough and to be able to hold onto those players then you need a proven pedigree of Chumps league wins, which Leicester can't boast. They are good medium sized club, but definitely not small. It's a good model they've got going there and increasing value of players is something Stoke could well do with. We seem to be able to buy big and sell cheap (loan out?), which doesn't seem the right way around at-all. Don't know the stat for transfer business at Leicester , maybe someone else does ?... Norwich a profit of around £ 70 million , the last 3 seasons and Brentford around £100 million profit on player turnover the last 3 seasons . It's a lot easier to be competitive , when your transfer business isn't a total unmitigated disaster
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Post by scfc75 on May 17, 2021 11:47:48 GMT
True enough and to be able to hold onto those players then you need a proven pedigree of Chumps league wins, which Leicester can't boast. They are good medium sized club, but definitely not small. It's a good model they've got going there and increasing value of players is something Stoke could well do with. We seem to be able to buy big and sell cheap (loan out?), which doesn't seem the right way around at-all. Don't know the stat for transfer business at Leicester , maybe someone else does ?... Norwich a profit of around £ 70 million , the last 3 seasons and Brentford around £100 million profit on player turnover the last 3 seasons . It's a lot easier to be competitive , when your transfer business isn't a total unmitigated disaster According to Transfermarkt, in the 5 seasons since winning the league they have made a net loss on transfers totalling just over €103m
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Post by FullerMagic on May 17, 2021 11:48:55 GMT
It's only fair to give MON and Aldridge a fair crack of the whip. You're only as good as the individuals in charge of recruitment. Hughes, Rowett, Cartwright etc are yesterday's news We would have received tens of applications for the role and MON, who is a very able guy, chose him. He was certainly well thought-of by Rowett - and he'd been in the Millwall recruitment department for 6 years, and headed it up, doing the exact job he's doing here, for 3. Our model now is pretty well aligned with most clubs. We're analytics-heavy and the guy in charge of recruitment is very experienced at this level. Let's see what he does when his hands are not tied behind his back by FFP londonnewsonline.co.uk/millwalls-head-of-recruitment-alex-aldridge-makes-stoke-city-switch/Stoke chief executive Tony Scholes said: “We advertised the role two to three months ago and we received in the region of 80 applicants. Alex was the stand out candidate and we’re delighted to bring him into the club.” londonnewsonline.co.uk/gary-rowett-surprised-at-departure-of-millwall-head-of-recruitment-alex-aldridge/“It’s a shame because I like Alex and I worked really well with him. "Al was good at his job, which is why he’s got the Stoke job. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfers-recruitment-news-4467746He’s got really good qualities, he’s very ambitious and he wants to do well. “It’s a big move for him. He’s a London boy and he’s come away from a London club so I think that shows his focus in the job as well. He’s made a very good impression since he’s come into the building.”
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Post by nott1 on May 17, 2021 11:55:27 GMT
Good for Leics. rather them than Putin's London branch!
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Post by babylon on May 17, 2021 19:36:35 GMT
That's a complete fallacy. It'd five years of poor recruitment (well, principally that of Hughes and Rowatt), that has caused the situation we're in, nothing to do with lack of resources. That's only been an issue under MON and the constraint of FFP. The poor recruitment wouldn't have happened in the first place under Denise. And she certainly wouldn't have kept people like Scholes in situ. Plus we'd almost certainly look at the foreign market in terms of recruitment and marketi Sigh, the debt was just about sustainable, it was in the main a loan after all for the stadium, which I'll come back to. Yes getting relegated was a nightmare and caused no end of financial issues, but can we also not forget the collapse of ITV digital which meant supposed guaranteed income wasn't actually there any more. That put Ipswich to the sword also. We also sold loads of players and agreed with ALL creditors but one to refinance so they got paid. The only person not to agree was Eric Hall the agent, whose client we sacked (Dennis Wise) for breaking another players jaw during a card game. Now you'd have to ask him why he'd write off huge sums of money to knowingly force us into administration by issuing a winding up order. (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/oct/22/newsstory.sport5). Once the winding up order went in, the club had little choice left. The notion that this was some shady deal to get out of paying for a stadium is just beyond laughable. Again, I'll come back to that. By going into administration the owners at the time relinquished all rights to the club, they were gone. They had nothing to do with the club again, and Gary Lineker, Heskey and other local businesses had to step in to save the club from ceasing to exist at all. So, back to the stadium. We didn't own the stadium, the bank owned the stadium and we ended up paying them some bonkers amount of money each season like a mortgage, they didn't just hand over the ground, just like the bank wouldn't let you keep your house if you didn't pay your debts We've paid more money for the stadium than we were ever meant to as we were paying the bank who took control of it for 13 years, until the current owners BOUGHT the ground off the bank by paying off the remaining part of the debt. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21628873.ampIt's sad that local businesses lost out, but there was no other options available at the time. Perhaps they should ask Eric Hall why they ended up with 20p in the £1. The current owners have pumped millions into the local community, paying for hospital wards and god knows what else. Nobody connected with the club at the moment has anything to do with administration. We weren't the first to go into admin and we won't be the last en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administration_(British_football), I find it baffling that it only ever seems to be brought up about us and nobody ever seems to know what actually happened. •Sorry quoted the wrong person.
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Post by babylon on May 17, 2021 19:46:44 GMT
Well done,but why are our so called fans bashing our club because of there success.LCFC cleared all there debts by going into administration twice,costing local companies thousands,and job losses.At least our owner have not let us go into administration.So well done and the present owners seem ok,but remember they did not clear any debt off before they brought the club. We went into administration once and certainly did not clear all of our debts, because most of the reported debts were players wages, that still needed paying and got paid and a loan on the stadium, that still existed post administration until the current owners paid off the remaining £17m.
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