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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 12, 2021 9:17:04 GMT
Hang on Wez....people who goad others and people who "terrorise neighbourhoods" are not interchangeable terms. You can't presume someone who does one automatically does the other. To be honest, if the kids "terrorising" the streets were simply people saying things that aren't nice on mobile phones, i don't think many people would be that worried or scared of them. You're seemingly intnetionally grouping these things together as if they're the same just to justify your position "Oh, he's got a phone and is saying nasty things to someone, therefore must be as scumbag, i should beat him up as he obvipously must also have a knife...probably...or something". You don't know the facts, you don't know what's happened (apart from bits from media tittle tattle and social media) yet are happy to condone beating up kids anyway? I don't think you can expect anyone to take you seriously or give you any credence the next time you tell people not to lay into a footballer whenhever he's next been alleged to have assaulted anyone/ raped anyone/ been drink driving. You've kinda lost that ability now due to this massive hypocrisy on your part. As i said, incredibly disappointing to see this from you Wez.
Why was he goading him?,why was he laughing at him and abusing him? why was he filming him? ....he was at the top of the street with his girlfriend Seriously mate it’s disappointing that you are acceptable of that behaviour and letting it go unchecked no matter what the circumstances
Who said i'm accepting of that behaviour?
Does me not accepting it therefore automatically mean i have to not only condone but advocate beating up a kid? What's wrong with you if you (as a grown adult) think they are the only 2 options?
FFS how worrying is it that grown men on here think it's acceptable to assault a kid, simply because they said nasty words to them? He didn't pull a knife (as far as anyone knows) or throw any punches, simply said some nasty things. "Kid says nasty things = only possible remedy, beat the shit out of them"
You guys need to grow up (and please stay away from bringing up any chuildren!)
More importantly Wez, why are you so happy to defend footballers alleged of things on here, yet so eager to wade in and condone assaulting children? That's seriously concerning IMO.
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Post by werrington on May 12, 2021 9:22:58 GMT
Why was he goading him?,why was he laughing at him and abusing him? why was he filming him? ....he was at the top of the street with his girlfriend Seriously mate it’s disappointing that you are acceptable of that behaviour and letting it go unchecked no matter what the circumstances Who said i'm accepting of that behaviour? Does me not accepting it automatically mean i have to condone beating up a kid? What's wrong with you if you think they are the only 2 options? FFS how worrying is it that grown men on here think it's acceptable to assault a kid, simply because they said nasty words to them? "Kid says nasty things = only possible remedy, beat the shit out of them"
You guys need to grow up (and please stay away from bringing up any chuildren!) More importantly Wez, why are you so happy to defend footballers alleged of things on here, yet so eager to wade in and condone assaulting children? That's seriously concerning IMO.
Stop twisting it mick to try and take this on another route that’s out of fucking order Next time you see the news with anti social kids or whoever running amok and terrorising the life out of people and ruining peoples lives don’t shake your head at it as you seem to think it’s ok as they are just kids They are vermin ....I’ll leave it at that
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 12, 2021 9:32:25 GMT
Who said i'm accepting of that behaviour? Does me not accepting it automatically mean i have to condone beating up a kid? What's wrong with you if you think they are the only 2 options? FFS how worrying is it that grown men on here think it's acceptable to assault a kid, simply because they said nasty words to them? "Kid says nasty things = only possible remedy, beat the shit out of them"
You guys need to grow up (and please stay away from bringing up any chuildren!) More importantly Wez, why are you so happy to defend footballers alleged of things on here, yet so eager to wade in and condone assaulting children? That's seriously concerning IMO.
Stop twisting it mick to try and take this on another route that’s out of fucking order Next time you see the news with anti social kids or whoever running amok and terrorising the life out of people and ruining peoples lives don’t shake your head at it as you seem to think it’s ok as they are just kids They are vermin ....I’ll leave it at that I haven't said anything like that Wez, that's you literally just lying there to make a point. I simply pointed out that a child saying nasty things does NOT automatically mean they are "scum terrorising neighbourhoods" when you have somehow decided that they are based on...well, nothing other than a few nasty words. That's a hell of a leap to make, as i'm pretty sure EVERY child (including me and you when we were kids) have said nasty things to adults at times, but that doesn't mean they all "terrorise" anyone in any way. Are you genuinely saying if anyone of any age or gender from now on says something nasty to you, you can therefore assume they're "terrorising neighbourhoods" and you can just beat them up? The main thing i've asked (and is in NO WAY out of order..in fact i'm struggling to see what you think was out of order, rather than just points that show your hypocrisy that you can't counter) is why you defend footballers for rape/assault charges until all facts are known so vehemently, yet apparently condone beating up children based on virtually no facts at all? For some reason, you don't seem to want to answer though. Genuinely, can you not see the absolutely ridiculous hypocrisy here on your part?
EDIT: Don't get me wrong Wez, if it comes out that this lad (whatever age he turns out to be) did pull a knife on him, put him in genuine fear, physically assaulted him then fair enough, go at it Oli. If it's simply a case of a teenage lad saying a few nasty words then that in no way, shape or form justifies assaulting a child. I'm sorry, it just doesn't. But that's the point really, as YOU always say, why dont we actually wait until all the facts come out BEFORE judging people (and that doesn't just mean the footballers Wez, it means the non-famous people involved as well)
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Post by werrington on May 12, 2021 9:43:59 GMT
Stop twisting it mick to try and take this on another route that’s out of fucking order Next time you see the news with anti social kids or whoever running amok and terrorising the life out of people and ruining peoples lives don’t shake your head at it as you seem to think it’s ok as they are just kids They are vermin ....I’ll leave it at that I haven't said anything like that Wez, that's you literally just lying there to make a point. I simply pointed out that a child saying nasty things does NOT automatically mean they are "scum terrorising neighbourhoods" when you have somehow decided that they are based on...well, nothing other than a few nasty words. That's a hell of a leap to make, as i'm pretty sure EVERY child (including me and you when we were kids) have said nasty things to adults at times, but that doesn't mean they all "terrorise" anyone in any way. Are you genuinely saying if anyone of any age or gender from now on says something nasty to you, you can therefore assume they're "terrorising neighbourhoods" and you can just beat them up? The main thing i've asked (and is in NO WAY out of order..in fact i'm struggling to see what you think was out of order, rather than just points that show your hypocrisy that you can't counter) is why you defend footballers for rape/assault charges until all facts are known so vehemently, yet apparently condone beating up children based on virtually no facts at all? For some reason, you don't seem to want to answer though. Genuinely, can you not see the absolutely ridiculous hypocrisy here on your part? I and seemingly you never terrorised neighbourhoods mick, there’s the difference You aren’t countering why he’s filming it, why he’s goading and laughing at him He mentions nothing of being abused by him or being assaulted by him leading up to it ......you nor I know the truth but he was acting like a cunt probably in order to put it on YouTube or what’s app making a fool out of him and how the fuck is Macburnie to know he’s only 14 We won’t agree on this so there’s no point continuing it
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 12, 2021 9:47:24 GMT
I haven't said anything like that Wez, that's you literally just lying there to make a point. I simply pointed out that a child saying nasty things does NOT automatically mean they are "scum terrorising neighbourhoods" when you have somehow decided that they are based on...well, nothing other than a few nasty words. That's a hell of a leap to make, as i'm pretty sure EVERY child (including me and you when we were kids) have said nasty things to adults at times, but that doesn't mean they all "terrorise" anyone in any way. Are you genuinely saying if anyone of any age or gender from now on says something nasty to you, you can therefore assume they're "terrorising neighbourhoods" and you can just beat them up? The main thing i've asked (and is in NO WAY out of order..in fact i'm struggling to see what you think was out of order, rather than just points that show your hypocrisy that you can't counter) is why you defend footballers for rape/assault charges until all facts are known so vehemently, yet apparently condone beating up children based on virtually no facts at all? For some reason, you don't seem to want to answer though. Genuinely, can you not see the absolutely ridiculous hypocrisy here on your part? I and seemingly you never terrorised neighbourhoods mick, there’s the difference You aren’t countering why he’s filming it, why he’s goading and laughing at him He mentions nothing of being abused by him or being assaulted by him leading up to it ......you nor I know the truth but he was acting like a cunt probably in order to put it on YouTube or what’s app making a fool out of him We won’t agree on this so there’s no point continuing it
Where's the difference? Who has decided (other than you) that this person is "Terrorising neighbourhoods"? You can't just keep using that term as if it's a fact that this kid has done that. You've literally decided that yourself based on nothing...or are you saying that a kid goading someone now equates to "Terrorising"? Pulling a knife, physically assaulting, genuine physical threat they are all terrorising and justify a response obviously. A grown man having to hear nasty words from a child is being terrorised? Give me strength!
Why would i counter it? He's a dick filming a "celebrity" for social media. Is that irritating if you're a celeb? I'd imagine so yes. As a celeb should you have at least some idea that the public may recognise you and try to get some social media "clout" off you? Also, yes although it doesn't make it fair or any less irritiating for the celeb. Does that justify beating up a kid? If anyone thinks the answer to this is yes, then they need their head checking.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 12, 2021 10:15:36 GMT
Yes, well done for assaulting someone, bravo Standing up to the utter scum who are terrorising neighbourhoods and abusing somebody who’s just going about their business with his girlfriend and offending nobody? You defending that piece of vermin with the phone? Rise above it, call the police, its what they're there for, getting some shit for being relegated is hardly worth trying to kick the shit out of someone. I'd suggest they're one and the same.
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Post by stokie223 on May 12, 2021 11:52:24 GMT
Standing up to the utter scum who are terrorising neighbourhoods and abusing somebody who’s just going about their business with his girlfriend and offending nobody? You defending that piece of vermin with the phone? Rise above it, call the police, its what they're there for, getting some shit for being relegated is hardly worth trying to kick the shit out of someone. I'd suggest they're one and the same. 'going about their business' was, according to the guy that's been attacked, being aggressive towards a female companion - which is why he supposedly started filming. I don't agree with that personally, if it was bad perhaps he/they should have tried to help, but such is the world we live in where everybody has a camera. Irrespective of any of that, however, from the evidence we have so far there is absolutely ZERO justification for McBurnie's actions, which were pretty reprehensible. He comes across as a thug. The guy in question claims he made a comment about Sheffield Utd getting relegated, either rise above it or give him some stick back. It wasn't deserving of violence.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 12, 2021 12:02:14 GMT
Why was he goading him?,why was he laughing at him and abusing him? why was he filming him? ....he was at the top of the street with his girlfriend Seriously mate it’s disappointing that you are acceptable of that behaviour and letting it go unchecked no matter what the circumstances
Who said i'm accepting of that behaviour?
Does me not accepting it therefore automatically mean i have to not only condone but advocate beating up a kid? What's wrong with you if you (as a grown adult) think they are the only 2 options?
FFS how worrying is it that grown men on here think it's acceptable to assault a kid, simply because they said nasty words to them? He didn't pull a knife (as far as anyone knows) or throw any punches, simply said some nasty things. "Kid says nasty things = only possible remedy, beat the shit out of them"
You guys need to grow up (and please stay away from bringing up any chuildren!)
More importantly Wez, why are you so happy to defend footballers alleged of things on here, yet so eager to wade in and condone assaulting children? That's seriously concerning IMO.
He's not a kid, reports suggesting that he's at least 21. All of the videos show very clear harassment of Oli McBurnie. Whether McBurnie's reaction were proportionate or not is impossible to say and a bigger question. Hard to say how you'd react until you're actually in the situation.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 12, 2021 12:19:37 GMT
I'm hearing the "kid" was actually older than 14. I've watched it from multiple sources and assuming it is an older "kid" (he sure has a deep voice and is very fluent in his F's and C's) then he deserved exactly what he got if you ask me. From what I can see he got a half punch round the side of the neck and a knee to the midriff on his was down. I would have accepted my fate if it was me.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 12, 2021 12:20:59 GMT
Who said i'm accepting of that behaviour?
Does me not accepting it therefore automatically mean i have to not only condone but advocate beating up a kid? What's wrong with you if you (as a grown adult) think they are the only 2 options?
FFS how worrying is it that grown men on here think it's acceptable to assault a kid, simply because they said nasty words to them? He didn't pull a knife (as far as anyone knows) or throw any punches, simply said some nasty things. "Kid says nasty things = only possible remedy, beat the shit out of them"
You guys need to grow up (and please stay away from bringing up any chuildren!)
More importantly Wez, why are you so happy to defend footballers alleged of things on here, yet so eager to wade in and condone assaulting children? That's seriously concerning IMO.
He's not a kid, reports suggesting that he's at least 21. All of the videos show very clear harassment of Oli McBurnie. Whether McBurnie's reaction were proportionate or not is impossible to say and a bigger question. Hard to say how you'd react until you're actually in the situation.
Whether he's a kid or not, doesn't alter the fact the points i made at the time were those i raised against people who were specfically thinking it's ok to act like that even if it was a kid. They were happy with McBurnie's course of action thinking it was a 14 year old.
I have actually been in situations where kids have called me "wanker" etc. or taken the piss out of what i'm wearing simply to "big it up" in front of their mates. Did i want to give them a slap, just to bring them down a peg or 2 and show them up in front of their mates? Of course, we probably all do deep down. Did i actually go ahead and do that though? No, because they're fucking children and any grown adult that is so upset by what a random child says to them that they feel that they simply have to beat them up has serious issues in terms of mental maturity.
Now, in terms of it being a 21 year old......is it fucking annoying for a 21 yr old to act like that? Yes. Would it wind you up if it happened to you often because you're a "celebrity"? Undoubtedly! Does that mean you can beat up someone for saying nasty things? Of course not, regardless of what age they are.
I was under the impression (from reading this board nowadays) that it was apparently just whinging, liberal, young people that are easily offended by everything and they should man up, yet here we are watching grown men advocating beating people up (who at the time they thought was a child) simply because he took the piss out of a football team being relegated.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 12, 2021 12:24:43 GMT
Who said i'm accepting of that behaviour? Does me not accepting it therefore automatically mean i have to not only condone but advocate beating up a kid? What's wrong with you if you (as a grown adult) think they are the only 2 options? FFS how worrying is it that grown men on here think it's acceptable to assault a kid, simply because they said nasty words to them? He didn't pull a knife (as far as anyone knows) or throw any punches, simply said some nasty things. "Kid says nasty things = only possible remedy, beat the shit out of them"
You guys need to grow up (and please stay away from bringing up any chuildren!) More importantly Wez, why are you so happy to defend footballers alleged of things on here, yet so eager to wade in and condone assaulting children? That's seriously concerning IMO.
He's not a kid, reports suggesting that he's at least 21. All of the videos show very clear harassment of Oli McBurnie. Whether McBurnie's reaction were proportionate or not is impossible to say and a bigger question. Hard to say how you'd react until you're actually in the situation. McBurnie's reaction is more than justified in my eyes. Even if it's someone giving him shit about Sheffield United, why should he be expected to put up with it? Just because he's a footballer and a bit famous? Imagine if every time you just pop to the shop for a few bits you've got some tosspot goading you and recording you, eventually that's going to make anyone snap. Why do people feel the need to bother someone who could be having an absolute shitter of a day like this? Even more so if they already have a questionable reputation, it's done on purpose out of spite and for Twitter likes but because McBurnie is a footballer he's just meant to expect things like this as a side effect of his job, it's not right. Also as I've covered before if you're 14/15/16 you know right from wrong, you know that goading, harassing and getting in people faces is wrong and if you're big enough to approach an adult then you're big enough to take the consequences that are coming your way when you eventually pick the wrong one to mess with. If I was 15 and ran up to Tyson Fury and called him a big gypo dosser I could have no complaints when he turns my face into a Bolognese, plus the one on the receiving end of these things doesn't know what the assailants intentions are, they could be concealing a knife or looking to rob them, better to react first than face a potentially bad outcome.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 12, 2021 12:51:09 GMT
He's not a kid, reports suggesting that he's at least 21. All of the videos show very clear harassment of Oli McBurnie. Whether McBurnie's reaction were proportionate or not is impossible to say and a bigger question. Hard to say how you'd react until you're actually in the situation.
Whether he's a kid or not, doesn't alter the fact the points i made at the time were those i raised against people who were specfically thinking it's ok to act like that even if it was a kid. They were happy with McBurnie's course of action thinking it was a 14 year old.
I have actually been in situations where kids have called me "wanker" etc. or taken the piss out of what i'm wearing simply to "big it up" in front of their mates. Did i want to give them a slap, just to bring them down a peg or 2 and show them up in front of their mates? Of course, we probably all do deep down. Did i actually go ahead and do that though? No, because they're fucking children and any grown adult that is so upset by what a random child says to them that they feel that they simply have to beat them up has serious issues in terms of mental maturity.
Now, in terms of it being a 21 year old......is it fucking annoying for a 21 yr old to act like that? Yes. Would it wind you up if it happened to you often because you're a "celebrity"? Undoubtedly! Does that mean you can beat up someone for saying nasty things? Of course not, regardless of what age they are.
I was under the impression (from reading this board nowadays) that it was apparently just whinging, liberal, young people that are easily offended by everything and they should man up, yet here we are watching grown men advocating beating people up (who at the time they thought was a child) simply because he took the piss out of a football team being relegated.
I don’t disagree with you but just because you have that restraint doesn’t mean others do. If you’re going round with your phone videoing people and harassing them then you accept your fair game for what comes back your way. It’s not like McBurnie has left him in hospital is it.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 12, 2021 12:53:40 GMT
He's not a kid, reports suggesting that he's at least 21. All of the videos show very clear harassment of Oli McBurnie. Whether McBurnie's reaction were proportionate or not is impossible to say and a bigger question. Hard to say how you'd react until you're actually in the situation. McBurnie's reaction is more than justified in my eyes. Even if it's someone giving him shit about Sheffield United, why should he be expected to put up with it? Just because he's a footballer and a bit famous? Imagine if every time you just pop to the shop for a few bits you've got some tosspot goading you and recording you, eventually that's going to make anyone snap. Why do people feel the need to bother someone who could be having an absolute shitter of a day like this? Even more so if they already have a questionable reputation, it's done on purpose out of spite and for Twitter likes but because McBurnie is a footballer he's just meant to expect things like this as a side effect of his job, it's not right. Also as I've covered before if you're 14/15/16 you know right from wrong, you know that goading, harassing and getting in people faces is wrong and if you're big enough to approach an adult then you're big enough to take the consequences that are coming your way when you eventually pick the wrong one to mess with. If I was 15 and ran up to Tyson Fury and called him a big gypo dosser I could have no complaints when he turns my face into a Bolognese, plus the one on the receiving end of these things doesn't know what the assailants intentions are, they could be concealing a knife or looking to rob them, better to react first than face a potentially bad outcome. Yes completely agree and whilst I accept the law will have to punish McBurnie, I don’t think it’s right for them to press charges for giving them a slap. I’d be embarrassed personally. If he’s beaten them to a pulp then that would be disproportionate but from what I’ve seen he was still quite restrained.
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Post by followyoudown on May 12, 2021 12:57:05 GMT
He's not a kid, reports suggesting that he's at least 21. All of the videos show very clear harassment of Oli McBurnie. Whether McBurnie's reaction were proportionate or not is impossible to say and a bigger question. Hard to say how you'd react until you're actually in the situation. McBurnie's reaction is more than justified in my eyes. Even if it's someone giving him shit about Sheffield United, why should he be expected to put up with it? Just because he's a footballer and a bit famous? Imagine if every time you just pop to the shop for a few bits you've got some tosspot goading you and recording you, eventually that's going to make anyone snap. Why do people feel the need to bother someone who could be having an absolute shitter of a day like this? Even more so if they already have a questionable reputation, it's done on purpose out of spite and for Twitter likes but because McBurnie is a footballer he's just meant to expect things like this as a side effect of his job, it's not right. Also as I've covered before if you're 14/15/16 you know right from wrong, you know that goading, harassing and getting in people faces is wrong and if you're big enough to approach an adult then you're big enough to take the consequences that are coming your way when you eventually pick the wrong one to mess with. If I was 15 and ran up to Tyson Fury and called him a big gypo dosser I could have no complaints when he turns my face into a Bolognese, plus the one on the receiving end of these things doesn't know what the assailants intentions are, they could be concealing a knife or looking to rob them, better to react first than face a potentially bad outcome. Not sure about justified but definitely understandable, I am sure he gets this sort of thing regularly and ignores, this day he seems to have had enough, maybe he was having a bad day but regardless why should he have to put up with it, if you or I did that to 10 random strangers in the street I'd expect a smack in the gob off 2 or 3 at least.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 12, 2021 13:04:52 GMT
I presume that everyone here backed up Jamie Carragher when he was being "harrassed" amd "terrorised" by someone taking the piss out of his team whilst filming it for no reason and he spat at them because after all, he gets it all the time and therefore is bound to snap isn't he, so it's not his fault?
Oh no, everyone said he was scum...but hitting people, yeah that's justifiable!
Is it only justifiable for footballers we like and those we don't we just call scum for doing less than McBurnie has?
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Post by This is the year on May 12, 2021 13:34:09 GMT
Looks like the lad was 21
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 12, 2021 18:40:46 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 12, 2021 18:56:33 GMT
When you've got that fine upstanding (woman beating) citizen Ravel Morrison backing you up you know you've got a righteous case.
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Post by dexta on May 12, 2021 18:59:10 GMT
Looks like the lad was 21 needs a slap wearing his hat back to front the fuckin weapon and the cunt is still on his phone probably on social media the wanker
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 12, 2021 19:12:18 GMT
Looks like the lad was 21 needs a slap wearing his hat back to front the fuckin weapon and the cunt is still on his phone probably on social media the wanker McBurnie's a prick. That photo alone will convict him. Just look at his body language. He looks like a neanderthal. He's stormed halfway down the street with the sole intention of giving the youth a tatering. Whatever your opinion of the victim. Provocation is mitigation not a defence. Guilty. Next.
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Post by David Brent on May 12, 2021 19:23:45 GMT
Good on him
Probably taught that little chavy a lesson
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Post by a on May 12, 2021 19:44:03 GMT
This has been posted on social media:
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on May 12, 2021 20:43:00 GMT
This has been posted on social media: I know exactly where that chavvy little twat needs that phone sticking.
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Post by a on May 12, 2021 21:08:41 GMT
This has been posted on social media: I know exactly where that chavvy little twat needs that phone sticking. 😂 just good to get a bit more context. He was a 14 year old kid a few pages ago. Still doesn’t give the full picture.
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Post by followyoudown on May 12, 2021 21:30:15 GMT
I presume that everyone here backed up Jamie Carragher when he was being "harrassed" amd "terrorised" by someone taking the piss out of his team whilst filming it for no reason and he spat at them because after all, he gets it all the time and therefore is bound to snap isn't he, so it's not his fault? Oh no, everyone said he was scum...but hitting people, yeah that's justifiable! Is it only justifiable for footballers we like and those we don't we just call scum for doing less than McBurnie has? I dont like or dislike McBurnie I think he is a pretty shit footballer and his Sheffield team are terrible and fully deserved relegation, the fact I post that on here doesn't mean I would expect to shout that at him or any other person and not expect there to be a chance of getting a smack in the mouth, the law will deal with mcburnie I imagine karma will deal with the guy who got punched once it comes out where he works I imagine he will find himself unemployed.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 19, 2021 10:27:27 GMT
Turns out he was 21 and has accepted because he acted like a complete prat he deserved his slap and knee to the midriff. Says he wont be pressing charges. Fair play. Case closed.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 10:52:13 GMT
Everyone has their breaking point.
I don't blame him for snacking the little prick. Hopefully that'll teach him to gob off at someone next time.
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Post by citynickscfc on May 19, 2021 14:14:52 GMT
Everyone has their breaking point. I don't blame him for snacking the little prick. Hopefully that'll teach him to gob off at someone next time. I don't understand. When is beating children ever the answer? You beat someone, they beat someone, their children beat other children and the spiral continues. Until someone actually says, "hey, let's talk about this. You are abusing people in the street, should we talk about it and maybe try to resolve it?"... Said person is then beaten up. This is definitely my Eutopian vision of the planet... Great to see fellow intellectuals on this board providing constructive solutions of how to solve societal issues. It may interest you that the UK (and England in particular) has one of the highest discrepancies of social economic statuses between areas of residence in Europe, and guess what, it also has one of the highest discrepancies between professions, qualifications, and achievements in school correlating to said inequalities. It is of absolutely no coincidence that some are failed by the British system of education. You only have to reference various international studies of education and societal inequalities, such as PISA, to see where things fall down. This too correlates to increased violence, violent protests and social disorder. You want to fix society? Fix education, but I tell you one thing, beating children or condoning violence will only make matters worse. "There can be no keener revelation of society's soul, than the way in which it treats it's children." Nelson Mandela. I think a few need a bit of soul searching personally. And then a bit of critical perspective of British society.
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Post by northernstokie on May 19, 2021 14:20:33 GMT
Turns out he was 21 and has accepted because he acted like a complete prat he deserved his slap and knee to the midriff. Says he wont be pressing charges. Fair play. Case closed. Either that or his free lawyer said he can't compete with the money they will throw at this to make it go away and advised him to be the bigger man.
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Post by spitthedog on May 19, 2021 14:25:07 GMT
Everyone has their breaking point. I don't blame him for snacking the little prick. Hopefully that'll teach him to gob off at someone next time. I don't understand. When is beating children ever the answer? You beat someone, they beat someone, their children beat other children and the spiral continues. Until someone actually says, "hey, let's talk about this. You are abusing people in the street, should we talk about it and maybe try to resolve it?"... Said person is then beaten up. This is definitely my Eutopian vision of the planet... Great to see fellow intellectuals on this board providing constructive solutions of how to solve societal issues. It may interest you that the UK (and England in particular) has one of the highest discrepancies of social economic statuses between areas of residence in Europe, and guess what, it also has one of the highest discrepancies between professions, qualifications, and achievements in school correlating to said inequalities. It is of absolutely no coincidence that some are failed by the British system of education. You only have to reference various international studies of education and societal inequalities, such as PISA, to see where things fall down. This too correlates to increased violence, violent protests and social disorder. You want to fix society? Fix education, but I tell you one thing, beating children or condoning violence will only make matters worse. "There can be no keener revelation of society's soul, than the way in which it treats it's children." Nelson Mandela. I think a few need a bit of soul searching personally. And then a bit of critical perspective of British society. I think folk will come back with.....he wasn't a child...on this one, as he was 21. Nevertheless, I agree violence and condoning violence is simply not the way forward imo I don't think it sets a good example put it that way. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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