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Post by Pugsley on Apr 21, 2021 20:50:43 GMT
Sacking culture has got to stop, this manager will take us up with a full strength team Sackings should continue until morale improves. Just how does continually sacking managers improve morale?
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Post by thevoid on Apr 21, 2021 20:50:49 GMT
We have money. We just can't spend it. I disagree. We are going for sustainability. If we had cash we would have spent it towards a decent manager not Paul Lambert, or Jese on loan, or moting on a free. We would have built an infrastructure 9f youngsters from the championship and loaned them out on a smaller scale than Chelsea etc. We would not have a manager at the center of all decisions and a CEO with a mouse brain Rowett was handed £50m. We have money.
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 21, 2021 20:51:42 GMT
This season is a write-off. It'll come down to next season now when we've got players back. We can't afford to sack him with FFP - and I haven't heard one realistic name mentioned who'd be willing to walk into this financial situation where we're rummaging around in the bargain bins until we can get rid of the 20 players next summer. If he's underperforming, it's only by a bit at the margins. He's got nothing to work with. We might have a shot at a Bilic (who I'm really not sure about) or a Wilder if our financial situation, and hence our means to improve our situation, wasn't as gloomy as a wet weekend in Skegness. But it isn't, so I really don't think we do. Other than them, it'd be a total punt on John Terry or a third-tier foreigner (and not sure those types would get a work permit now) or an unproven coach-type like Swansea and Huddersfield gambled with. Nobody in the lower leagues is shining at all. All the people at the top of League 1 are retreads who have failed at this level. The Blackpool manager looks promising, but he'd be a total punt The Blackpool manager was floundering until they brought in Colin Calderwood. Ever since he came in they've been flying. A lot of the younger lower league managers seem so reliant on certain assistants. Jones as a prime example.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 21, 2021 20:52:04 GMT
Fuckin Jim from Trentham 🤣🤣 Made my day. Love the passion. The bloke is an utter cunt
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 21, 2021 20:52:07 GMT
If the last 2 performances signal Holden's influence, God help us☹️
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Post by scfcwebby on Apr 21, 2021 20:53:51 GMT
Fucking coward pretty much blaming the youngsters for the defeat!
Fuck off
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 21, 2021 20:55:26 GMT
What about a mad Dutchman/ex Vale manager combo...? Stuff of dreams surely?
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Post by Parkhall Wanderer on Apr 21, 2021 20:56:42 GMT
We have money. We just can't spend it. I disagree. We are going for sustainability. If we had cash we would have spent it towards a decent manager not Paul Lambert, or Jese on loan, or moting on a free. We would have built an infrastructure 9f youngsters from the championship and loaned them out on a smaller scale than Chelsea etc. We would not have a manager at the center of all decisions and a CEO with a mouse brain Coates senior stated exactly that when we first went up to the Premiership. I think Hughes alluded to the fact that the players he really wanted cost more than the Coates family were prepared to spend and he then was left with with players further down the list and poor substitutes for the ones he couldn’t sign. Which makes it more galling that once we tumbled out of the Premiership they spent money like confetti on players they were told would walk the championship and get us back up at the first time of asking. The end result is a mess as we are now witnessing. And still Scholes keeps thieving his salary.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Apr 21, 2021 20:58:02 GMT
Any realistic targets?
Wilder?
Personally I would stick with MON, an odd season with awful injuries including our star player.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 21, 2021 20:59:04 GMT
What about a mad Dutchman/ex Vale manager combo...? Stuff of dreams surely? If you mean Boskamp his season was a thousand times better than this shite and we finished in the same position as we are at the moment.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 21, 2021 21:00:38 GMT
What about a mad Dutchman/ex Vale manager combo...? Stuff of dreams surely? If you mean Boskamp his season was a thousand times better than this shite and we finished in the same position as we are at the moment. i know, highly entertaining on and off the pitch!
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Post by NassauDave on Apr 21, 2021 21:01:14 GMT
Any realistic targets? Wilder? Personally I would stick with MON, an odd season with awful injuries including our star player. He couldn't manage a Craggy Island 5 a side team.
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Post by a on Apr 21, 2021 21:01:28 GMT
Fucking coward pretty much blaming the youngsters for the defeat! Fuck off What has he said? I mean the young defender was sadly very poor as was Norton, but the majority of that team were poor today.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 21, 2021 21:02:28 GMT
Any realistic targets? Wilder? Personally I would stick with MON, an odd season with awful injuries including our star player.That doesn't excuse the awful game management, the dropping of in form players and the awful signings.
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Post by telfordstokie on Apr 21, 2021 21:03:10 GMT
Any realistic targets? Wilder? Personally I would stick with MON, an odd season with awful injuries including our star player. Wilder has just made millions from his severance agreement with Sheffield United - he doesn’t need the hassle of coming here and trying to turn this squad around with no money to spend. Might be a different story if FFP got scrapped though.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Apr 21, 2021 21:05:20 GMT
Any realistic targets? Wilder? Personally I would stick with MON, an odd season with awful injuries including our star player.That doesn't excuse the awful game management, the dropping of in form players and the awful signings. Not saying it does. But again if we sack him who comes in and does better?
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Apr 21, 2021 21:06:35 GMT
Any realistic targets? Wilder? Personally I would stick with MON, an odd season with awful injuries including our star player. Wilder has just made millions from his severance agreement with Sheffield United - he doesn’t need the hassle of coming here and trying to turn this squad around with no money to spend. Might be a different story if FFP got scrapped though. He's the one who would tempt me to part ways. But again, and this goes back to Hughes, who is coming in to do a better job?
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Post by march4 on Apr 21, 2021 21:06:37 GMT
It’s not just the results is it?
Player recruitment Plethora of injuries - I don’t believe in bad luck Sharpness and fitness of the players Poor substitutions repeatedly
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Post by thevoid on Apr 21, 2021 21:06:44 GMT
Any realistic targets? Wilder? Personally I would stick with MON, an odd season with awful injuries including our star player. He couldn't manage a Craggy Island 5 a side team. They were quicker than our lot.
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Post by Goonie on Apr 21, 2021 21:08:01 GMT
Ludicrous to sack him now.
Allow him till at least January
The season died with Campbell's injury
Last season and this was just survival
I'll judge him on what he's does next season
It's always a bad time to discuss after a loss
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 21, 2021 21:08:48 GMT
That doesn't excuse the awful game management, the dropping of in form players and the awful signings. Not saying it does. But again if we sack him who comes in and does better? The only one mentioned on here so far would be Wilder really, but that shouldn't mean we don't get rid, there's plenty of managers about, they just need to do their research on them, they have plenty of time if they start now ready for next season.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 21, 2021 21:09:29 GMT
Not saying it does. But again if we sack him who comes in and does better? The only one mentioned on here so far would be Wilder really, but that shouldn't mean we don't get rid, there's plenty of managers about, they just need to do their research on them, they have plenty of time if they start now ready for next season. Who would you choose?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 21, 2021 21:09:50 GMT
Ludicrous to sack him now. Allow him till at least January The season died with Campbell's injury Last season and this was just survival I'll judge him on what he's does next season It's always a bad time to discuss after a loss Doesn't say much about him when one player derails his entire plan does it.
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Post by canadianmoose on Apr 21, 2021 21:10:18 GMT
Sacking culture has got to stop, this manager will take us up with a full strength team What 'full strength' team do you speak of? There is only really Campbell that has been out long term that would make any difference. He alone wouldn't change the turgid shit that is served up each game at the moment.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 21, 2021 21:10:50 GMT
The only one mentioned on here so far would be Wilder really, but that shouldn't mean we don't get rid, there's plenty of managers about, they just need to do their research on them, they have plenty of time if they start now ready for next season. Who would you choose? Doesn't matter who I'd choose.
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Post by march4 on Apr 21, 2021 21:10:51 GMT
We should be talking to John Terry already about who he would want as his experienced General Manager.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 21, 2021 21:11:50 GMT
Doesn't matter who I'd choose. Cop out, come on give us a realistic name?
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Post by telfordstokie on Apr 21, 2021 21:12:10 GMT
Wilder has just made millions from his severance agreement with Sheffield United - he doesn’t need the hassle of coming here and trying to turn this squad around with no money to spend. Might be a different story if FFP got scrapped though. He's the one who would tempt me to part ways. But again, and this goes back to Hughes, who is coming in to do a better job? Agree. If we could get Wilder then it’s worth the change but unfortunately don’t think it’s realistic right now.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 21, 2021 21:12:51 GMT
We should be talking to John Terry already about who he would want as his experienced General Manager. Yes he could do as well as Rooney😄You talk some shit at times March
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 21, 2021 21:14:00 GMT
Campbell, Fletcher for chunks, Fox, Collins, Clucas, Clarke. Not making excuses but we have suffered and sadly the back up just isn't good enough.
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