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Post by chuffedstokie on Mar 24, 2021 18:48:43 GMT
Those companies running a 'just in time' manufacturing process and rely on stuff travelling through here on a regular basis will undoubtedly feel the effect, maybe. 🤔
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Post by woodstein on Mar 24, 2021 21:22:34 GMT
My local canal gets blocked - with shopping trolleys!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 21:31:41 GMT
It must have been a stiff breeze to knock that thing off-course.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Mar 24, 2021 21:34:08 GMT
A “gust of wind” apparently responsible, which seems an almost admirably brazen bit of excuse-making 😂 Palacios must be captaining the ship....
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 25, 2021 0:47:09 GMT
The thing is, the next time there's a major delay or shortage of something important like facemasks or PPE, the Govt excuse or response is likely to be "Suez Incident." Daft as it seems that is not far from the truth, not necessarily this ship but the dozens or so held up, my company get about 3 containers a week from Taiwan, we have already been alerted that 2 of our ships are held up, and could interupt our supply chain to our customers. Mental how dependent we are on it, and in such a short timeframe. You’d think it would be a prime terrorist target
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Post by flea79 on Mar 25, 2021 9:35:01 GMT
Daft as it seems that is not far from the truth, not necessarily this ship but the dozens or so held up, my company get about 3 containers a week from Taiwan, we have already been alerted that 2 of our ships are held up, and could interupt our supply chain to our customers. Mental how dependent we are on it, and in such a short timeframe. You’d think it would be a prime terrorist target it was, in team america
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Post by redstriper on Mar 25, 2021 9:55:38 GMT
a 500 metre long toilet brush and some vigorous flushing should shift it for those interested in history - heres a good summary of why it isn't our problem anymore... suez in a nutshell
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Post by flea79 on Mar 25, 2021 10:41:00 GMT
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Post by Northy on Mar 25, 2021 11:27:12 GMT
I wouldn't mind serving under her
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Post by Northy on Mar 25, 2021 11:29:30 GMT
Daft as it seems that is not far from the truth, not necessarily this ship but the dozens or so held up, my company get about 3 containers a week from Taiwan, we have already been alerted that 2 of our ships are held up, and could interupt our supply chain to our customers. Mental how dependent we are on it, and in such a short timeframe. You’d think it would be a prime terrorist target There are plenty of Egyptian army posts along it's route. Whenever we went through it in the RN you were always first of the convoy so as not to get trapped and guns were manned
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Post by flea79 on Mar 25, 2021 11:29:39 GMT
I wouldn't mind serving under her climb her rigging in a flash
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Post by themistocles on Mar 25, 2021 12:04:54 GMT
Come on China play fair
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 25, 2021 19:03:58 GMT
The situation is still ongoing after 2 days, and at some point there will undoubtedly be an enquiry. I wonder if so, that there might be salacious details to emerge, such as the pilot waving to a mate onshore at the time. I am reminded of the Costa Concordia disaster when the Italian cruise ship went off course and ran aground. Not only was the Captain found to have been distracted by guests onboard, including an exotic dancer, but following the accident he was found to have left the ship prematurely, against tradition, after he claimed to have fallen into a lifeboat!
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 25, 2021 19:47:02 GMT
It must have been a stiff breeze to knock that thing off-course. Passed through Suez many times and it’s never anything but very windy. These ULCVs have bow and stern thrusters as well as conventional rudder and propellor. My guess is that the wind caught the bow at the same time as bow/stern thruster failure. Although a technical fault is being denied a 30 mph wind being reported would not be unusual for that area. Companies already making contingency plans to divert down Indian Ocean and round Cape of Good Hope. Somali pirates will be rubbing there hands no doubt
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 25, 2021 19:51:22 GMT
Reports are emerging that the pilot was fairly new and inexperienced and was indeed caught unawares and off balance by a sudden freak gust of wind. He is believed to be retired ex footballer Wilson Palacios.
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Post by mattyd2 on Mar 25, 2021 20:00:13 GMT
It must have been a stiff breeze to knock that thing off-course. Passed through Suez many times and it’s never anything but very windy. These ULCVs have bow and stern thrusters as well as conventional rudder and propellor. My guess is that the wind caught the bow at the same time as bow/stern thruster failure. Although a technical fault is being denied a 30 mph wind being reported would not be unusual for that area. Companies already making contingency plans to divert down Indian Ocean and round Cape of Good Hope. Somali pirates will be rubbing there hands no doubt That's probably a 10 to 14 day detour. Wonder how many ships are in the bottleneck now in both directions.
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Post by mattyd2 on Mar 25, 2021 20:01:13 GMT
I wouldn't mind serving under her climb her rigging in a flash Master Bates and Seaman Staines to the bridge please.
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 25, 2021 20:12:03 GMT
Rodger!
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 25, 2021 21:15:37 GMT
It must have been a stiff breeze to knock that thing off-course. Passed through Suez many times and it’s never anything but very windy. These ULCVs have bow and stern thrusters as well as conventional rudder and propellor. My guess is that the wind caught the bow at the same time as bow/stern thruster failure. Although a technical fault is being denied a 30 mph wind being reported would not be unusual for that area. Companies already making contingency plans to divert down Indian Ocean and round Cape of Good Hope. Somali pirates will be rubbing there hands no doubt I believe there was also a sandstorm reducing viability at the same time, but modern incredibly accurate chart plotters and numerous other electronic aids should mean that it was not to much of a problem to go through . The other factor without becoming to technical is the wind/gust direction. With this very high freeboard a angle of around 45deg foreword of the beam would be far more dangerous than a beam on wind. In a narrow channel and constrained by its draft I would not fancy handling it in the conditions if it was a worse case scenario. ⚓️
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 25, 2021 21:20:02 GMT
This explains a lot. Mind you I had got images in my head of someone making a Hollywood Movie out of this incident, but with a Norman Wisdom type playing the role of the Pilot. As the boat's bow swings round the hapless character plaintively yells: "Mr Grimsdale!"
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Post by mattador78 on Mar 25, 2021 22:06:25 GMT
You can imagine the sentence “Fancy a go it’s a piece of piss!” may have been involved with this one 😂
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 25, 2021 22:15:45 GMT
Passed through Suez many times and it’s never anything but very windy. These ULCVs have bow and stern thrusters as well as conventional rudder and propellor. My guess is that the wind caught the bow at the same time as bow/stern thruster failure. Although a technical fault is being denied a 30 mph wind being reported would not be unusual for that area. Companies already making contingency plans to divert down Indian Ocean and round Cape of Good Hope. Somali pirates will be rubbing there hands no doubt That's probably a 10 to 14 day detour. Wonder how many ships are in the bottleneck now in both directions. www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-12.0/centery:25.0/zoom:4........Errrrrr- a LOT!!!
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 25, 2021 22:22:45 GMT
Passed through Suez many times and it’s never anything but very windy. These ULCVs have bow and stern thrusters as well as conventional rudder and propellor. My guess is that the wind caught the bow at the same time as bow/stern thruster failure. Although a technical fault is being denied a 30 mph wind being reported would not be unusual for that area. Companies already making contingency plans to divert down Indian Ocean and round Cape of Good Hope. Somali pirates will be rubbing there hands no doubt That's probably a 10 to 14 day detour. Wonder how many ships are in the bottleneck now in both directions. 2220 tonight...... Attachment Deleted
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 25, 2021 22:36:04 GMT
First stage of the Knock On effect will be Gibraltar.
Med W bound ships held up and all eventually arriving en masses to refuel. E bound vessels reluctant to leave or slow moving to avoid the crowded deep water anchorages.
A little like the M6 with road works. 😀⚓️
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 25, 2021 22:40:28 GMT
Do they have Traffic Police doing weight checks and registration and licence inspections?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 6:30:45 GMT
Reports are emerging that the pilot was fairly new and inexperienced and was indeed caught unawares and off balance by a sudden freak gust of wind. He is believed to be retired ex footballer Wilson Palacios. the size of him the last game he played for us, he'd block the Suez Canal on his own His arse was the size of a small village in Lincolnshire
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 26, 2021 13:20:55 GMT
I know that this ship blocking the Canal is a serious business, but there's just something about the situation that catches the imagination. Yesterday I could picture Norman Wisdom as the Pilot frantically trying to hold the ship as the bows come round. Now more pictures have been released including one that really amuses me. The world watches and waits as this Super Container Vessel continues to block the channel. And there's an image of this huge ship jammed stuck, and there is this one lone chap in a digger trying to extricate it from the bank. It made me think of Bernard Cribbins and his hole in the ground. "There was I, digging this hole, hole in the ground, so big and sorta round . . ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/11A1C/production/_117702227_77afde91-ed9d-472c-8583-44819714ca5a.jpg
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 27, 2021 9:34:08 GMT
News agencies are reporting that they are hoping to re float the container vessel today, Sat 27th, following a massive dredging operation.
March 28 th is a full moon therefore giving them their best shot this week end on a high tide.
There are now in excess of 200 ships at anchor in the Red Sea at the southern end. This could cause world wide shipping disruption for some time to come. ⚓️
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 27, 2021 10:47:55 GMT
It's a pity they haven't still got someone around like Queen Nefertiti, to do an official relaunch.
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 27, 2021 10:50:52 GMT
I wonder how many containers that ship is carrying ? I expect the one I'm waiting for is at the bottom.
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