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Post by mickey2693 on Mar 4, 2021 16:05:10 GMT
It'd end up being someone shit like Harris
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 4, 2021 16:22:01 GMT
Here is the formula for picking/predicting the next Coates family appointment:
1. Make a list of all the top British managers 2. Tear that list up 3. Think of some of the most obscure no hoper or out of work British managers 4. Now go 40 times lower to places you didn't think even we could sink 5. Wait for the announcement and make sure you have google loaded
I had to google MON: Doing community service to get a driving ban down, only league club experience Shamrock Rovers was all I could find.
At a time when we were miles a drift at the foot of the table and in need of urgent attention, this was the appointment we made and on a part-time basis to start with.
Shocking does not come into it - but for me we lucked out with MON
Whatever you think, should we really be letting our owners loose when we have a man who is doing fine job with the tools he has.
The only thing that needs to change at the club is the fans expectation. Like it or not it is going to take time to build and we have to, at some point, give a man time to do it.
MON is having to play youth whether he wants to or not, some are making the grade others are struggling a bit at the moment. His other choices are mainly journey men.
We are competitive and were again last night and that is all we can ask for until he can spend a bit on quality which might be a while away.
I despair when I hear all this play-off talk - just a bit of reality needed - 10pts required for safety and if that happens he will have done another good job this season
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Post by lordb on Mar 4, 2021 16:26:20 GMT
Here is the formula for picking/predicting the next Coates family appointment: 1. Make a list of all the top British managers 2. Tear that list up 3. Think of some of the most obscure no hoper or out of work British managers 4. Now go 40 times lower to places you didn't think even we could sink 5. Wait for the announcement and make sure you have google loaded I had to google MON: Doing community service to get a driving ban down, only league club experience Shamrock Rovers was all I could find. At a time when we were miles a drift at the foot of the table and in need of urgent attention, this was the appointment we made and on a part-time basis to start with. Shocking does not come into it - but for me we lucked out with MON Whatever you think, should we really be letting our owners loose when we have a man who is doing fine job with the tools he has. The only thing that needs to change at the club is the fans expectation. Like it or not it is going to take time to build and we have to, at some point, give a man time to do it. MON is having to play youth whether he wants to or not, some are making the grade others a struggling a bit at the moment. His other choices are mainly journey men. We are competitive and were again last night and that is all we can ask for until he can spend a bit on quality which might be a while away. I despair when I hear all this play-off talk - just a bit of reality needed - 10pts required for safety and if that happens he will have done another good job this season We didn't appoint O'Neill on the back of his time with Shamrock Rovers
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 4, 2021 16:34:09 GMT
Warnock. McCarthy Bruce Pulis. No one else should be considered if MON leaves in the next few months. We need discipline and experience. Would any of the above be interested in managing Stoke though given the current FFP constraints. I think it would be difficult to attract a manager who has proven experience of getting promoted from this league in our current circumstances. I suppose for any managers out off contract we may have a chance but not sure if they'd be committed long term. It would have to be Pulis not ideal but I am pretty sure it would go a long way to getting rid of the Teflon snake oil salesman
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Post by christhepotter on Mar 4, 2021 16:57:15 GMT
Warnock. McCarthy Bruce Pulis. No one else should be considered if MON leaves in the next few months. We need discipline and experience. All negative managers , we have one of them already
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Post by flea79 on Mar 4, 2021 17:04:20 GMT
Would any of the above be interested in managing Stoke though given the current FFP constraints. I think it would be difficult to attract a manager who has proven experience of getting promoted from this league in our current circumstances. I suppose for any managers out off contract we may have a chance but not sure if they'd be committed long term. It would have to be Pulis not ideal but I am pretty sure it would go a long way to getting rid of the Teflon snake oil salesman it would also lead to low home attendances too
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 4, 2021 17:17:25 GMT
It would have to be Pulis not ideal but I am pretty sure it would go a long way to getting rid of the Teflon snake oil salesman it would also lead to low home attendances too I agree however I can't see MoN's football enthusing many more.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 17:18:17 GMT
I would make Shawcross' stay in the US a short one. Beyond laughable. Realistic though. It's always been Peter Coates' hope that Ryan would manage the club. It's just a little too soon, which is why it's a good idea to hold on to MON for a few more years.
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Post by Cns on Mar 4, 2021 17:20:06 GMT
Martin O'Neill.
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Post by spoton on Mar 4, 2021 17:26:22 GMT
Rafa
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 4, 2021 17:27:04 GMT
So he’s resoundingly shit but we can’t do better? 😄 If he was shit he wouldn't have been capable of engineering the astonishing change in form that saved us last season.
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Post by zerps on Mar 4, 2021 17:27:35 GMT
So he’s resoundingly shit but we can’t do better? 😄 If he was shit he wouldn't have been capable of engineering the astonishing change in form that saved us last season. New manager bounce. Aaaaaaaand it’s gone.
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 4, 2021 17:31:33 GMT
If he was shit he wouldn't have been capable of engineering the astonishing change in form that saved us last season. New manager bounce. Aaaaaaaand it’s gone. The longest new manager bounce in history. They usually last as long as Lambert's.
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Post by jarhead on Mar 4, 2021 17:34:29 GMT
Danny Pugh
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 17:35:21 GMT
There is no way on this earth the board are even thinking about replacing him. The only scenario where he would be gone is if Celtic come sniffing, which they won't.. And why would they? The board I mean.
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Post by zerps on Mar 4, 2021 17:37:13 GMT
New manager bounce. Aaaaaaaand it’s gone. The longest new manager bounce in history. They usually last as long as Lambert's. Dead cat bounce then. Slight retracement on the capitulation then the downtrend continues. Classic wyckoff formation.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Mar 4, 2021 17:40:29 GMT
Would any of the above be interested in managing Stoke though given the current FFP constraints. I think it would be difficult to attract a manager who has proven experience of getting promoted from this league in our current circumstances. I suppose for any managers out off contract we may have a chance but not sure if they'd be committed long term. It would have to be Pulis not ideal but I am pretty sure it would go a long way to getting rid of the Teflon snake oil salesman Now theres a conundrum....Pulis back if it gets rid of Teflon Tony. One to consider 🤔🤔
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 17:41:23 GMT
it would also lead to low home attendances too I agree however I can't see MoN's football enthusing many more. It did last season and will do again. Michael O'Neill will get it right given time. Rome wasn't built in a day, and I'm convinced that a lot of people are going to be choking on their own words, due to them being rammed back down their throats soon enough.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 17:45:26 GMT
So he’s resoundingly shit but we can’t do better? 😄 If he was shit he wouldn't have been capable of engineering the astonishing change in form that saved us last season. Agreed , he has joined a sinking ship and somehow kept it afloat , which is a real achievement
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 4, 2021 17:45:44 GMT
I agree however I can't see MoN's football enthusing many more. It did last season and will do again. Michael O'Neill will get it right given time. Rome wasn't built in a day, and I'm convinced that a lot of people are going to be choking on their own words, due to them being rammed back down their throats soon enough. Possibly but on the evidence this season personally I really can not see this happening, the squad he took over was poor though he did galvanise them into avoiding certain relegation, his lack of experience at club level is now showing through his signings in the majority have been poor but what concerns me most is that he doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes.
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 4, 2021 17:49:15 GMT
The longest new manager bounce in history. They usually last as long as Lambert's. Dead cat bounce then. Slight retracement on the capitulation then the downtrend continues. Classic wyckoff formation. If we were bottom of the table you might have a point. But we're not and you don't.
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Post by banksisgod on Mar 4, 2021 17:50:11 GMT
The only opinions that matter are those of the Directors. This is just as well as, if it was down to the supporters (certainly some of the ones on here) we would probably go through four or five managers a season. The Coates's, whilst passionate fans, are also pragmatic business people, who will look at MO'N's achievements in the round, and have decided that he has done a brilliant job overall, particularly in terms of moving on the disruptive and expensive "deadwood" and opening up spaces for some of the youngsters to graduate from the 23's, all the while avoiding a relegation high-wire act like last year. Removing the architect of this will be the furthest thing from their minds.
From the depths of chaos, a kind of stability has been restored. We will finish top half this season and, hopefully, will be better placed - with a fit and firing Campbell in attack and Collins/Souttar in central defence - to make an assault on the top two next year. With all of our players to choose from, and a front four of Doughty, Campbell, Powell and (for the time being) Fletcher, we are two good, disciplined central midfielders away from being a top six side next year.
I wouldn't be surprised if the plan was to "make haste slowly", whereby we have a side that, if promoted, would stand a good chance of survival in the Premier League. Those who are calling for a managerial change, now, or in the near future, are going to be disappointed.
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Post by zerps on Mar 4, 2021 17:56:02 GMT
Dead cat bounce then. Slight retracement on the capitulation then the downtrend continues. Classic wyckoff formation. If we were bottom of the table you might have a point. But we're not and you don't. How’s the form table?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 4, 2021 17:58:38 GMT
Paul Cook would have been a perfectly acceptable alternative if it came to it. We're not there by any means yet but to not pull the trigger because of the alternatives is always the flimsiest of arguments. The problem is the decision makers at our club are useless and you wouldn't trust them one iota to get it right.
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 4, 2021 17:59:36 GMT
If we were bottom of the table you might have a point. But we're not and you don't. How’s the form table? Nowhere near as good as the league table.
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 4, 2021 18:00:43 GMT
Realistic though. It's always been Peter Coates' hope that Ryan would manage the club. It's just a little too soon, which is why it's a good idea to hold on to MON for a few more years. Please stop making things up.
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Post by zerps on Mar 4, 2021 18:01:57 GMT
Nowhere near as good as the league table. Yeah current form is irrelevant. Check out our form over the last 100 games. We thought mon was turning it round. Dead cat bounce and further downside. Last 10 games we’re three points off bottom. What’s all the fuss about? Short Stoke City fc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 19:42:39 GMT
Don't want to consider it as be back to square one and will turn into a Sheff Weds if we go down that route.
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Post by zerps on Mar 4, 2021 19:46:14 GMT
It'd end up being someone shit like Harris Rolf? It would certainly liven things up. I’d enjoy seeing someone like Frankie Boyle in charge.
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Post by Ron on Mar 4, 2021 19:59:57 GMT
As poor as our recent form is, and as baffling as some of MON selections are, he has enough credit in the bank to continue.
Campbell injury as well as Clucas on going injury problems have been a huge issue.
The season turned against Cardiff- the injury and Vokes missed pen and all down hill from their.
Our playoff hopes were also crippled by the turgid run of draws against the divisions lower sides away from home.
He has a tendency to be negative - but I just don’t think he trusts the current group and that has shown in his approach.
We can’t sack another. The problems at the club run deeper than the manager and I for one think that with a fully fit squad throughout the season and with fans in the ground we would have been better off.
We need freshening up next season (again) and some real legs in midfield.
A striker, another wide man with pace , a midfielder or 2 with good energy and a left back ( although I think fox Is ok) and I genuinely think we will be ok.
We also have a crop of seemingly positive youngsters who should be given a chance now the season feels like a dead rubber- seeing them would also make the remaining games watchable.
Keep calm and I’d he doesn’t do it next year or come close then it’s the time to panic.
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