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Post by AlbertTatlock on Feb 3, 2021 22:11:46 GMT
Just can't muster up any excitement, We know it'll be a back 5 with just one goal if we're lucky, little or no intention of making a push for a play off place just relax and hope there's enough (which there obviously is) for us to avoid a relegation battle. Gouranga.  |
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Post by thevoid on Feb 3, 2021 22:18:19 GMT
It wish it had. At best it'll be a borefest, at worst we could go into a tailspin
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 3, 2021 22:26:16 GMT
Yep. And it’s been crap.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Feb 3, 2021 22:29:15 GMT
Arguably the biggest game of the season. Anything less than a win will likely extinguish any remaining hopes we have for the play offs. But yeah, does feel like consolidation time with a hint of resignation to a mid table finish
Not bringing in a striker doesn't help.
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Post by wakeypotter on Feb 3, 2021 22:29:53 GMT
It was over the minute Campbell limped off.
Can’t rely on one player
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 3, 2021 22:31:31 GMT
Just can't muster up any excitement, We know it'll be a back 5 with just one goal if we're lucky, little or no intention of making a push for a play off place just relax and hope there's enough (which there obviously is) for us to avoid a relegation battle. Gouranga. You better hope so Albert I can see us flirting with relegation yet, this negative binary football is worse than Pulisball at least we were a threat from set pieces, the thought of Sam Vokes been the managers back up choice lone striker to Fletcher is frankly alarming. |
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Post by Silkystoke on Feb 3, 2021 22:33:25 GMT
It was over the minute Campbell limped off. Can’t rely on one player This 100%... No fuckin striker bought / loaned in Jan just makes it worse. |
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 3, 2021 22:37:19 GMT
Just can't muster up any excitement, We know it'll be a back 5 with just one goal if we're lucky, little or no intention of making a push for a play off place just relax and hope there's enough (which there obviously is) for us to avoid a relegation battle. Gouranga. Yeah me, I'm off to the circus!  |
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Post by datguy on Feb 3, 2021 22:40:34 GMT
I thought we were miles behind with more games played. Checked the table earlier on and everyone has played 27 games, and we're 'only' four points away from the playoffs. Form suggests we haven't got a chance and MON's decisions of late have been questionable at best, but we aren't out of it yet...
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Post by BuzzB on Feb 3, 2021 22:52:10 GMT
Results haven't been too bad for us re games in hand ( see above post ).
Time to regroup now the window has gone and make a positive push, one game at a time, go out and win it.
MON however may feel differently.
We have had our dodgy run, every team has them, see Bournemouth, Norwich have hit a barren spell, Only Brentford are flying and we can afford to let them go. Our run has not seen many defeats which have certainly helped keep us up there. We do worry where the goals are coming from though.
Stay positive, tight at the back and have a bloody go, absolutely nowt to lose.
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Post by march4 on Feb 3, 2021 22:53:54 GMT
It ended the day Campbell was injured and Vokes missed the penalty that would have put us top.
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Post by trincostokie on Feb 3, 2021 23:16:09 GMT
Is it bollox! We're going on a nice little run of 4 wins in the next 5, which will see us comfortably back into the top 6 ;-)
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Post by somersetstokie on Feb 3, 2021 23:20:20 GMT
Results haven't been too bad for us re games in hand ( see above post ). Time to regroup now the window has gone and make a positive push, one game at a time, go out and win it. MON however may feel differently. We have had our dodgy run, every team has them, see Bournemouth, Norwich have hit a barren spell, Only Brentford are flying and we can afford to let them go. Our run has not seen many defeats which have certainly helped keep us up there. We do worry where the goals are coming from though. Stay positive, tight at the back and have a bloody go, absolutely nowt to lose. That's the spirit. In the words of the late Tom Moore, "tomorrow is going to be a good day!" |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Feb 3, 2021 23:31:33 GMT
We are consistently mind numbingly dull and boring as hell to watch.
I reckon O'Neill is looking to change the club's name to Stoke City Drew, as he seems delighted when we get a draw.
I can't believe how bad it's become after the super way he had us playing in the latter half of last season.
None of his signings have improved us one iota (latest batch excepted, as we haven't seen enough of them yet) and the lack of striking quality gives no hope of upcoming improvement.
Please Mr. O'Neill prove us all wrong and give us something to get excited about again.
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Post by kingdaz on Feb 3, 2021 23:32:29 GMT
Never give up gotta keep on hoping
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Post by damagedswan on Feb 3, 2021 23:38:30 GMT
Yeah I do. But strange as it is to say, I honestly don't really mind. I still think we have a good foundation to build on.
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Post by Gods on Feb 4, 2021 0:08:37 GMT
I thought we were miles behind with more games played. Checked the table earlier on and everyone has played 27 games, and we're 'only' four points away from the playoffs. Form suggests we haven't got a chance and MON's decisions of late have been questionable at best, but we aren't out of it yet... It's true that mathematically we are just about in touch with the final play-off position but the trouble is our trajectory is all wrong. Zero wins in the last 7 matches, zero in the last 9 matches if you count the cups. Our metaphorical roof is shedding a few tiles and looks like it may be about to cave in. I'm genuinely surprised there has not been a single peep from the Board, were there a crowd the mood would be as dark as the slate grey February skies. |
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 4, 2021 0:43:20 GMT
Bloody 'ell there's some grim posts round 'ere lately.
It's true we're not great at the moment but we'll recover. We are vastly better off than the previous season let's face it.
It was never going to be a quick run to promotion, our manager is the right man for the job and needs several seasons to build a team and cast off the dead wood.
And we're not going down. That's just silly.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Feb 4, 2021 0:58:00 GMT
Yep. Don't really care about this season. But then again I don't really care about much of anything else either.
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Post by Bagwash on Feb 4, 2021 5:00:26 GMT
Bloody 'ell there's some grim posts round 'ere lately. It's true we're not great at the moment but we'll recover. We are vastly better off than the previous season let's face it. It was never going to be a quick run to promotion, our manager is the right man for the job and needs several seasons to build a team and cast off the dead wood. And we're not going down. That's just silly. Although we are in a far better position than 12 months ago and I suppose this time last year I would have been more than happy with that,I still feel it's an opportunity missed. Bar for Norwich and Brentford the rest are much of a muchness and the playoffs at least were easily achievable.I also believe that MON is the right man for the job at the moment, I just wish he would be a bit more adventurous occasionally. Its been done to death but coming out of the transfer window weaker with our attacking options means we will be hovering around mid table. Would love to be proved wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2021 6:35:20 GMT
I know we're hampered by FFP but the window has left us even worse off attacking wise. Good to get Wimmer, Ince etc "out of the building" albeit only till the summer, but the lack of another striker is a massive negative, basically leaving us reliant on fragile Fletch, ineffective Brown, and immobile Vokes. There's a massive transfer window looming in the summer now as all/most of those out on loan will be back and we'll be in the same position again although with no parachute money coming in.
Our results nosedived when Campbell got injured, and it just seems as though the club have decided that we couldn't afford to bring in any more players that could seriously help a promotion push at this time, so they're happy enough with what we've got and are confident that we can grind our way to mid table obscurity/safety.
It does seem as though we will be gping through the motions till the end of the season, with pragmatic formations and tactics (isn't that the way MO'N used to play with Northern Ireland ?) and it'll be a total borefest with probably a couple of good wins, several 1-0 defeats, and numerous mind-numbingly boring draws.
Definitely a feeling of season over !
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Post by wilcopotter on Feb 4, 2021 8:13:36 GMT
Always very unlikely we would’ve got a striker on loan in January that would fire us to the play offs or promotion. If he was that good he wouldn’t be loaned out by his club, or he wouldn’t come here or we can’t afford him i.e. Gayle or Lingard imo.
In effect , it does seem the season is over but we should use these games now when mathematically safe to prepare for next season.
I agree with Deeside, nothing really doing until June 22 when a lot of deadwood contracts expire.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 4, 2021 8:14:36 GMT
Mad thing is that no wins in 9 games, 7 in championship, and we're still only 4 points of play offs. What a crazy league this is.
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Post by stokie1947 on Feb 4, 2021 8:16:07 GMT
without a doubt and IMHO a great chance of a top 6 place gone with MON negativity -tactics-
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Post by march4 on Feb 4, 2021 8:30:04 GMT
Mad thing is that no wins in 9 games, 7 in championship, and we're still only 4 points of play offs. What a crazy league this is. True, but at the start of this poor run we were within striking distance of the automatic spots. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2021 9:14:13 GMT
I feel next season will be the same too. Until the majority of the high earners contracts end in 2022 I can’t see how the squad can be properly invested in. Without parachute payments and FFP next season doesn’t look like MON will be able to seriously develop a squad that can challenge. Let’s hope Campbell will fully recover from injury, but we can’t rely one just one player. Sorry for the negative outlook but that’s how I see it.
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 4, 2021 9:24:07 GMT
Bloody 'ell there's some grim posts round 'ere lately. It's true we're not great at the moment but we'll recover. We are vastly better off than the previous season let's face it. It was never going to be a quick run to promotion, our manager is the right man for the job and needs several seasons to build a team and cast off the dead wood. And we're not going down. That's just silly. Although we are in a far better position than 12 months ago and I suppose this time last year I would have been more than happy with that,I still feel it's an opportunity missed. Bar for Norwich and Brentford the rest are much of a muchness and the playoffs at least were easily achievable.I also believe that MON is the right man for the job at the moment, I just wish he would be a bit more adventurous occasionally. Its been done to death but coming out of the transfer window weaker with our attacking options means we will be hovering around mid table. Would love to be proved wrong. Our form in the final quarter of of last season had us around 7th in the form table. We'd found a team and formation (the magic 4-2-3-1) that clicked and when we got Fox and Fletcher in, it felt like we had a few more of the missing pieces to make a go of it this year. Granted losing Ty is a big blow, but I've just been so disappointed with MON's negativity and his insistence on plying 4-3-3 into a team that doesn't suit that formation. Saying that, I just don't get the resignation that our season is over. Until we are six points behind 6th place having already played that team once already, then I still believe we're in with a chance. It's down to MON to be more flexible and try and get the most from Brown whenever Fletch is unavailable. |
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Post by Gods on Feb 4, 2021 9:41:26 GMT
I feel next season will be the same too. Until the majority of the high earners contracts end in 2022 I can’t see how the squad can be properly invested in. Without parachute payments and FFP next season doesn’t look like MON will be able to seriously develop a squad that can challenge. Let’s hope Campbell will fully recover from injury, but we can’t rely one just one player. Sorry for the negative outlook but that’s how I see it. I think this is at the heart of it. And you could add and no ticket dsles and match day revenue for 18 months by next August although that is the same for everyone. |
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Post by J-Roar on Feb 4, 2021 9:48:29 GMT
I feel next season will be the same too. Until the majority of the high earners contracts end in 2022 I can’t see how the squad can be properly invested in. Without parachute payments and FFP next season doesn’t look like MON will be able to seriously develop a squad that can challenge. Let’s hope Campbell will fully recover from injury, but we can’t rely one just one player. Sorry for the negative outlook but that’s how I see it. I think this is at the heart of it. And you could add and no ticket dsles and match day revenue for 18 months by next August although that is the same for everyone. Perhaps FFP will get suspended or scrapped. With such little income coming in, clubs are either going to go bump or fall foul of FFP all over the shop. It would help clubs like us with rich owners. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 4, 2021 10:25:47 GMT
Mad thing is that no wins in 9 games, 7 in championship, and we're still only 4 points of play offs. What a crazy league this is. True, but at the start of this poor run we were within striking distance of the automatic spots. I remember that wasn’t around Christmas fixtures? |
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