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Post by werrington on Jan 22, 2021 23:00:59 GMT
bounced in front of him , watch it The game was 0-0 and he gave a penalty away which for me was a massive goal in this game,the 2nd he should have done better with in my opinion,if you don’t agree fair enough He made a superb point blank save and then went for the follow up, those things happen To blame him for that is well I’m not sure there’s words
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 22, 2021 23:02:55 GMT
The game was 0-0 and he gave a penalty away which for me was a massive goal in this game,the 2nd he should have done better with in my opinion,if you don’t agree fair enough He made a superb point blank save and then went for the follow up, those things happen To blame him for that is well I’m not sure there’s words I agree it was a great save but then his decision changed the game.Like you say it happens but it’s a mistake for me
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Post by Davef on Jan 22, 2021 23:03:27 GMT
bounced in front of him , watch it The game was 0-0 and he gave a penalty away which for me was a massive goal in this game,the 2nd he should have done better with in my opinion,if you don’t agree fair enough That's a bit harsh on him for the penalty. He made an excellent save for the first chance and was beaten to the loose ball. It's one of those incidents you see countless times involving keepers with far more experience. Having had another look at the second goal, I'll agree that he'll be disappointed, but our midfield and defence hardly covered themselves in glory either did they?
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Post by devsad on Jan 22, 2021 23:04:05 GMT
Don't blame him for the penalty. Could have done better with the other goal.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 22, 2021 23:05:01 GMT
The game was 0-0 and he gave a penalty away which for me was a massive goal in this game,the 2nd he should have done better with in my opinion,if you don’t agree fair enough That's a bit harsh on him for the penalty. He made an excellent save for the first chance and was beaten to the loose ball. It's one of those incidents you see countless times involving keepers with far more experience. Having had another look at the second goal, I'll agree that he'll be disappointed, but our midfield and defence hardly covered themselves in glory either did they? I agree it’s harsh but I suppose it’s the life of a goalkeeper
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Post by liathroid on Jan 22, 2021 23:09:12 GMT
That's a bit harsh on him for the penalty. He made an excellent save for the first chance and was beaten to the loose ball. It's one of those incidents you see countless times involving keepers with far more experience. Having had another look at the second goal, I'll agree that he'll be disappointed, but our midfield and defence hardly covered themselves in glory either did they? I agree it’s harsh but I suppose it’s the life of a goalkeeper yeah , easy to blame the last man
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 22, 2021 23:10:13 GMT
Changing the keeper will change fuck all. Well it might have saved us a goal in the week and two tonight - that would be helpful I reckon
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 23, 2021 0:50:27 GMT
Don't blame him for the penalty. Could have done better with the other goal. I'm the opposite. He got carried away for the penalty - great save and quickly back on his feet but having got to the player he should have just stood up to him and made him do something instead of which he let the adrenalin of the first save get the better of him. I'm sure that will be talked about with him. Better to make those mistakes now rather than later - there are still enough games to get into the play offs if we are good enough which I don't think we are quite. The second he was a unlucky. He was already down making the save when the ball bobbled up and over his arms. Not a lot he could do to adjust his hands in that position.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 0:59:06 GMT
The game was 0-0 and he gave a penalty away which for me was a massive goal in this game,the 2nd he should have done better with in my opinion,if you don’t agree fair enough He made a superb point blank save and then went for the follow up, those things happen To blame him for that is well I’m not sure there’s words I wrote that he should be dropped following Rotherham. I still think he should if one of the other two are fit. However, the penalty was not really his fault. He does great on the first and the follow through is just one of those. His positioning was poor for the second. He shouldn’t really have been beaten there. His shot stopping record is not good, which isn’t great for a goalkeeper.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jan 23, 2021 1:59:43 GMT
We've got ourselves into a bit of a rut and we've started conceding avoidable goals with a few recently that can be either fully or partially blamed on Bursik. If Davies or Gunn are fit I think it's time to put one of those in because it's starting to feel like we're conceding an extra goal per game which might have been avoided with another keeper. 0 becomes 1, 1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 3 (like at Rotherham) etc and it's starting to cost us points especially with our lack of goals.
Now yes I know that goalkeeper probably isn't the biggest problem position right now, up front and midfield are. But in those positions we don't have obvious alternatives to improve things, personally I think Davies or Gunn could improve on Bursik right now. So with that in mind, while he's not the position most in need of change we do have quality options to replace him so I think we should do it. We haven't got anything to lose by doing so in my opinion. When your options are limited and you're struggling if you have better options on the bench you should use them even if the position might not be the biggest problem on the pitch.
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Post by caine on Jan 23, 2021 4:10:43 GMT
Hmmm it’s tough one he’s been brilliant but looks raw in some games. Davies has been the number 1 keeper in my opinion and should get a good run out now. The exciting thing is we have two very good keepers and they both cost us naff all!
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Post by Bagwash on Jan 23, 2021 4:58:19 GMT
Bursik has done extremely well and is a very good goalie in the making but I would take him out of the firing line,so to speak and start with Davies although bar for conceding the penalty I don't think he did too bad last night.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 7:16:05 GMT
Davies needs to regain full fitness period. He's been out for 3 months. Then we may consider using him.
Gunn needs to move back from where he came.
Unless we mess him about by dropping him after two simple mistakes, Bursik could be our regular keeper for the next many years. Mistakes are part of his very steady learning curve, but he is still a learner.
With 3 games in 6 days I suppose it wouldn't have hurt him to have been rested for one, if Davies had been fully fit. But it should be made very clear to the pair of them that that was what it was.
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Post by moon on Jan 23, 2021 7:42:12 GMT
If Bursik is to be dropped or rested I’d bring Gunn back in ahead of Davies, I’d stick with Joe for now though.
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Post by harryh157 on Jan 23, 2021 7:59:13 GMT
I wanted Joe picking for last night but I think I would go for one of the others for the next game
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Post by tachyon on Jan 23, 2021 10:12:03 GMT
The shot stopping data has remained concerning. There's just a 4% chance an average Championship keeper concedes 16 or more goals based on the quality of the shots on target faced by JB. An average keeper would be looking at allowing around 11 goals. Alternative selections now exist. Attachment Deleted
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 23, 2021 11:24:08 GMT
Gordon Banks would struggle with this lot in front of him.
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Post by franklin on Jan 23, 2021 11:26:51 GMT
He's by far the least weakest link in the team, he's done nothing major to warrant being dropped.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 23, 2021 11:51:13 GMT
He's by far the least weakest link in tbe team, he's done nothing major to warrant being dropped. I agree none of what he’s done is anywhere near the level of cock up that Butland was making. His level has possibly lowered slightly over the last couple of games but he’s a good keeper and on on a par with Davies and better than Gunn in my opinion.
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Post by franklin on Jan 23, 2021 11:52:58 GMT
He's by far the least weakest link in tbe team, he's done nothing major to warrant being dropped. I agree none of what he’s done is anywhere near the level of cock up that Butland was making. His level has possibly lowered slightly over the last couple of games but he’s a good keeper and on on a par with Davies and better than Gunn in my opinion. I'm very impressed with the lad he brilliant under a high ball and commands his box and is a good "sweeper" keeper.
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Post by stokemark on Jan 23, 2021 23:40:18 GMT
He’s done really well but for me Davies is currently the better keeper and Joe has now lost his place if Davies is fit based on letting too many soft goals in
Simple as that
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