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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 22, 2021 22:11:11 GMT
what a load of shit - like the keeper is our main issue or even close too They need a scapegoat He’s not a scapegoat for me mate just he cost us the goals tonight and one at Rotherham. He’s done brilliantly for us but it’s time for a change now. I agree we have other issues also
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Post by werrington on Jan 22, 2021 22:12:39 GMT
it a scapegoat for me mate just he cost us the goals tonight and one at Rotherham. He’s done brilliantly for us but it’s time for a change now. I agree we have other issues also Shite defending and a midfield getting continually bypassed cost us tonight and at Rotherham mate
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Post by windows1 on Jan 22, 2021 22:12:47 GMT
41 shots on target and let 15 goals in ......
Not good enough
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 22, 2021 22:13:32 GMT
it a scapegoat for me mate just he cost us the goals tonight and one at Rotherham. He’s done brilliantly for us but it’s time for a change now. I agree we have other issues also Shite defending and a midfield getting continually bypassed cost us tonight and at Rotherham mate Shite defending from who?
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Post by werrington on Jan 22, 2021 22:14:05 GMT
Shite defending and a midfield getting continually bypassed cost us tonight and at Rotherham mate Shite defending from who? Did you watch the Rotherham match?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 22, 2021 22:14:46 GMT
Shite defending from who? Did you watch the Rotherham match? I’m on about tonight
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Post by werrington on Jan 22, 2021 22:15:47 GMT
Did you watch the Rotherham match? I’m on about tonight You mentioned Rotherham mate
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 22, 2021 22:16:40 GMT
Fans in showing concern over a goalkeeper that’s started to make regular mistakes shock. Regular? He’s been superb since he came in, yeah he’ll make a mistake just like the other two have when they’ve played I don’t care who plays but cmon eh He has been superb, but that’s three goals in the last two matches he’s been culpable for. We’d have probably taken four points from the last two games with Davies or Gunn in goal.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 22, 2021 22:16:41 GMT
You mentioned Rotherham mate I did and our defending was awful there but you said tonight also
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Post by henry on Jan 22, 2021 22:17:01 GMT
I'm staggered that people are looking to point the finger at a decent young prospect of a keeper, instead some of the treacle treading defensive players in front of him.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 22, 2021 22:19:02 GMT
I'm staggered that people are looking to point the finger at a decent young prospect of a keeper, instead some of the treacle treading defensive players in front of him. Do those treacle treading defenders mean all four of them or just the usual suspect?
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Post by werrington on Jan 22, 2021 22:19:05 GMT
I'm staggered that people are looking to point the finger at a decent young prospect of a keeper, instead some of the treacle treading defensive players in front of him. It’s a Stoke thing mate Nobody is ready until they are 25
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Post by collo68 on Jan 22, 2021 22:20:35 GMT
Angus Gunn is the best goalkeeper at the club. He needs to come back in for the next game Davies was immaculate before he got injured so no brainier to put him back in. How can you possibly say Gunn is better when he played hardly any games ?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 22, 2021 22:21:44 GMT
I'm staggered that people are looking to point the finger at a decent young prospect of a keeper, instead some of the treacle treading defensive players in front of him. It’s a Stoke thing mate Nobody is ready until they are 25 Ridiculous comment mate come on
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Post by henry on Jan 22, 2021 22:22:19 GMT
I'm staggered that people are looking to point the finger at a decent young prospect of a keeper, instead some of the treacle treading defensive players in front of him. Do those treacle treading defenders mean all four of them or just the usual suspect? No. Who do you mean usual suspect ?
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Post by brizzlestokie on Jan 22, 2021 22:22:26 GMT
Don't get the notion that goalkeepers have to be atrocious to be dropped. It's just like any other position - you play the best you have and Bursik is our third best goalkeeper at the moment when all are fit.
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Post by that's our Ric on Jan 22, 2021 22:23:22 GMT
Agreed, he is very good with his feet and commanding the box, but a shot on target is where he struggles Bit of a problem when he's your keeper!
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 22, 2021 22:23:37 GMT
what a load of shit - like the keeper is our main issue or even close too They need a scapegoat Of all the players they could choose, they go for a keeper that has been superb so far
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Post by skiptomylou on Jan 22, 2021 22:23:53 GMT
He was 3rd choice at start of season for a reason, hes come back and done a fine job up until Gunn and Davies return to training. I think the pressure may be getting to him. He was lucky at Blackburn, cost us at Rotherham, tonight I don't blame him for the penalty its instinct to go for the rebound from a smart brave save, shouldn't get beat for the second I feel, I don't think Davies or Gunn get beat with the same shot.
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Post by werrington on Jan 22, 2021 22:24:11 GMT
It’s a Stoke thing mate Nobody is ready until they are 25 Ridiculous comment mate come on No it’s not mate Look at threads re Souttar Collins Bursik and Campbell prior to them playing They got reamed, deemed not ready/good enough and should be loaned out or sold for peanuts They’re all there if you look
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 22, 2021 22:24:35 GMT
Do those treacle treading defenders mean all four of them or just the usual suspect? No. Who do you mean usual suspect ? Chester is the usual suspect isn’t he on here🤔
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 22, 2021 22:25:25 GMT
You mentioned Rotherham mate I did and our defending was awful there but you said tonight also Chester was poor for their 2nd and the lack of players busting a gut to get to the 2nd ball after Bursik saved the first (for the penalty) was also poor
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 22, 2021 22:26:19 GMT
Stoke supporters can be very strange sometimes.
Bursik is an outstanding prospect who has performed above all expectations and showed great maturity after being thrown in. He's already seen off a challenge from two experienced goalkeepers brought in to replace him.
Davies had some good form at the start of this season but has a number of longer term issues that we saw in his occasional appearances prior to that. He's excellent at one-on-ones, but his handling leaves a lot to be desired, especially his Pickford-esque tendency to push the ball out into the danger area.
Gunn is a bit of an unknown quantity who we're hoping hasn't gone into a Butland-style career nosedive over the last couple of years. Potentially a shrewd signing, but by no means guaranteed to do any better than Bursik.
I just don't understand why some parts of our support are so keen to turn on the 20 year old home grown player who's doing a perfectly decent job at the first sign of a mistake.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 22, 2021 22:27:48 GMT
Ridiculous comment mate come on No it’s not mate Look at threads re Souttar Collins Bursik and Campbell prior to them playing They got reamed, deemed not ready/good enough and should be loaned out or sold for peanuts They’re all there if you look They get reamed like any other player when they deserve it( and from you also).He cost us the pen and arguably the 2nd🤔I don’t see what is wrong with saying that.I’m pretty sure he’d say the same himself and yes we gave other big issues
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 22, 2021 22:28:25 GMT
I did and our defending was awful there but you said tonight also Chester was poor for their 2nd and the lack of players busting a gut to get to the 2nd ball after Bursik saved the first (for the penalty) was also poor Here we go it’s took a while🤣🤣
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 22, 2021 22:29:19 GMT
Chester was poor for their 2nd and the lack of players busting a gut to get to the 2nd ball after Bursik saved the first (for the penalty) was also poor Here we go it’s took a while🤣🤣 What's that?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 22, 2021 22:30:07 GMT
Here we go it’s took a while🤣🤣 What's that? I wondered when Chester would get the blame
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 22, 2021 22:30:51 GMT
I wondered when Chester would get the blame Not really getting the blame, he didn't have a bad game tonight at all, but his defending for their 2nd wasn't great at all
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Post by werrington on Jan 22, 2021 22:32:38 GMT
No it’s not mate Look at threads re Souttar Collins Bursik and Campbell prior to them playing They got reamed, deemed not ready/good enough and should be loaned out or sold for peanuts They’re all there if you look They get reamed like any other player when they deserve it( and from you also).He cost us the pen and arguably the 2nd🤔I do t see what is wrong with saying that.I’m pretty sure he’d say the same himself sand yes we gave other big issues They were reemed before they were given a shot in the first team Have a look at the old Souttar threads, have a look at the Bursik thread after his debut, have a look at the Campbell threads when he first came into the side Stoke fans can’t handle young lads playing and are always deemed “not ready” Thankfully the manager doesn’t read this place
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Post by henry on Jan 22, 2021 22:32:41 GMT
Chester was poor for their 2nd and the lack of players busting a gut to get to the 2nd ball after Bursik saved the first (for the penalty) was also poor Here we go it’s took a while🤣🤣 It's not incorrect though is it ?
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