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Post by wearestoke80 on Mar 16, 2021 21:42:57 GMT
He must be one of the highest earners at the club and doesn’t even get in the game.
Fuck him off
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Post by RonnieStokie on Mar 17, 2021 0:50:29 GMT
Allen has played 176 games for us. We've won 44. Drawn 57. Lost 75.
Win percentage of 25% Loss percentage of 42.61%
Mark Hughes' win percentage with us was 35.5% Michael O'Neil's win percentage 39%
Make of that what you will.
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 17, 2021 1:42:31 GMT
Allen has played 176 games for us. We've won 44. Drawn 57. Lost 75. Win percentage of 25% Loss percentage of 42.61% Mark Hughes' win percentage with us was 35.5% Michael O'Neil's win percentage 39% Make of that what you will. Any idea what win % we have when MoN plays Allen as opposed to when he doesn't?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 2, 2021 15:50:29 GMT
Midfield much better today without him.
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Post by dastokie on Apr 2, 2021 15:58:06 GMT
Not missed in anyway Midfield alot stronger.
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Post by march4 on Apr 2, 2021 16:05:15 GMT
It’s hard not to consider how many extra points we would have if Joe Allen hadn’t played this season.
And on top of that how many more points would an absence of Gunn been worth to us.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 2, 2021 16:06:35 GMT
We win today with or without him.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 2, 2021 16:08:42 GMT
Even after a win some just have to have a go,pathetic
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 2, 2021 16:25:25 GMT
I'm not sure we do win today with or without him. It was a performance that needed discipline and digging in. I'm not sure if it's Allen or playing Allen and Mikel together, but we don't seem to have that kind of discipline in games like this when those two start together.
Thompson was totally unflashy, sat in and kept things simple and that was exactly what was required.
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 2, 2021 16:40:24 GMT
I thought Thompson was our MOM today.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 17:02:40 GMT
That midfield looks miles better without him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 17:04:22 GMT
Even after a win some just have to have a go,pathetic Sad bastards mate.
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Post by zerps on Apr 2, 2021 17:07:48 GMT
Even after a win some just have to have a go,pathetic They’re making a correct point. Drag up results with or without him. It’s worth highlighting because it benefits the team.
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 2, 2021 17:11:22 GMT
I think Allen would be an asset to all teams in this division at his best, but he isn't getting any younger. That is why I think I'd let go if we got a bid around £5M for him, he is our highest earner as well.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 2, 2021 17:16:21 GMT
Even after a win some just have to have a go,pathetic They’re making a correct point. Drag up results with or without him. It’s worth highlighting because it benefits the team. Its all over Twitter so I don’t need to drag it up but for me it’s pathetic that’s it’s the 1st thing some sad individuals do when we’ve just won 2-0 away from home. But then again certain posters are only seen when we lose
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Post by zerps on Apr 2, 2021 17:23:32 GMT
They’re making a correct point. Drag up results with or without him. It’s worth highlighting because it benefits the team. Its all over Twitter so I don’t need to drag it up but for me it’s pathetic that’s it’s the 1st thing some sad individuals do when we’ve just won 2-0 away from home. But then again certain posters are only seen when we lose Tell their mums then?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 2, 2021 17:24:10 GMT
Its all over Twitter so I don’t need to drag it up but for me it’s pathetic that’s it’s the 1st thing some sad individuals do when we’ve just won 2-0 away from home. But then again certain posters are only seen when we lose Tell their mums then? Grow up FFS
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Post by zerps on Apr 2, 2021 17:26:06 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 2, 2021 17:26:27 GMT
I think Allen would be an asset to all teams in this division at his best, but he isn't getting any younger. That is why I think I'd let go if we got a bid around £5M for him, he is our highest earner as well. 5mil !!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 2, 2021 17:27:52 GMT
I'm not sure we do win today with or without him. It was a performance that needed discipline and digging in. I'm not sure if it's Allen or playing Allen and Mikel together, but we don't seem to have that kind of discipline in games like this when those two start together. Thompson was totally unflashy, sat in and kept things simple and that was exactly what was required. Yeah the midfield were solid and kept shape and discipline. All the things you don’t associate with Joe Allen.
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Post by leicspotter on Apr 2, 2021 17:29:43 GMT
I don't mind Allen, don't really mind Mikel, just can't take both starting together...it doesn't work.
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 2, 2021 17:31:08 GMT
I think Allen would be an asset to all teams in this division at his best, but he isn't getting any younger. That is why I think I'd let go if we got a bid around £5M for him, he is our highest earner as well. 5mil !! You can't see he's worth that?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 17:42:15 GMT
Even after a win some just have to have a go,pathetic Gone on the days where people are allowed to have their own opinion.
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Post by zerps on Apr 2, 2021 17:55:44 GMT
Even after a win some just have to have a go,pathetic Gone on the days where people are allowed to have their own opinion. It’s a hate crime and bullying
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Post by whatsashig on Apr 2, 2021 18:22:52 GMT
Started the discussion well, leave it at that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 2, 2021 18:29:05 GMT
Even after a win some just have to have a go,pathetic 😂😂😂mardarse
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Post by everyoneneedsawhelan on Apr 2, 2021 20:32:44 GMT
The narrative that fans can’t simply point out a stat about our form with or without a player, just because we won the game, is ironic because the win is the sole reason why the stat is brought up.
We are a better team without Allen in it, that’s not to say he is a bad player- he just does not fit into this side alongside Mikel and Powell.
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Post by iglugluk on Apr 2, 2021 20:47:41 GMT
The narrative that fans can’t simply point out a stat about our form with or without a player, just because we won the game, is ironic because the win is the sole reason why the stat is brought up. We are a better team without Allen in it, that’s not to say he is a bad player- he just does not fit into this side alongside Mikel and Powell. Agreed Regardless of how good or not Allen is, as far as I am concerned he has never been a good fit in our team.
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Post by spoton on Apr 2, 2021 21:38:01 GMT
I'm not sure we do win today with or without him. It was a performance that needed discipline and digging in. I'm not sure if it's Allen or playing Allen and Mikel together, but we don't seem to have that kind of discipline in games like this when those two start together. Thompson was totally unflashy, sat in and kept things simple and that was exactly what was required. Yeah the midfield were solid and kept shape and discipline. All the things you don’t associate with Joe Allen. Don't let Silverdollar hear you say we didn't miss Allen and Mikel together
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 2, 2021 21:52:58 GMT
5mil !! You can't see he's worth that? 31 is he? Staring to look injury prone and not particually standing out in a midtable champ team, no I don't see he's worth that tbh. He may be a decent enough punt as a squad filler for a Prem club but they'd be more looking at 1-2mil I would have thought and given the situation we're in re FFP etc I doubt they'd bother sticking around to negotiate if we tried it. The market for him would be very small, the wages he must be on would probably take out any champ club that may have been interested in him and how many Prem clubs would really want him.
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