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Post by Parkhall Wanderer on Mar 13, 2021 21:13:17 GMT
Just announced he’s left Sheffield Utd apparently by mutual consent.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 13, 2021 21:52:26 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 14, 2021 15:40:46 GMT
Down with an absolute whimper, 5-0 down at Leicester and could be more to come......
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 14, 2021 15:55:23 GMT
Down with an absolute whimper, 5-0 down at Leicester and could be more to come...... Not surprising, Wilder was well liked and respected by the playing staff there from what I hear.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 15:58:54 GMT
Very good manager Chris wilder
Sheffield United's owner thinks he can do better
But he might not right there
Time will tell
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 14, 2021 16:01:23 GMT
Very good manager Chris wilder Sheffield United's owner thinks he can do better But he might not right there Time will tell
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Mar 14, 2021 16:07:31 GMT
They’ve done just fine without him today.
Madness
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Post by datguy on Mar 14, 2021 16:22:03 GMT
Whether he deserved the sack or not, the timing seems very odd? I can’t imagine who they’ve got in charge now will be their next season, so why not just wait until the summer?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 14, 2021 17:15:00 GMT
Massive massive mistake parting company with Wilder for me and I think it’ll see them return to the championship for many a year
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 14, 2021 17:21:23 GMT
Something had to change though didn’t it?
He’d spent an awful lot of money really, really badly and the owners wanted to give him some help there and make him Head Coach and he was having none of it.
Even discounting their shocking season and whether constantly digging your players out publicly is a diminishing returns job, the two options were to keep trusting him with money when he’d proven he couldn’t be trusted with it, or get rid.
The former is essentially what we did with Hughes.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 14, 2021 17:23:02 GMT
Down with an absolute whimper, 5-0 down at Leicester and could be more to come...... Not surprising, Wilder was well liked and respected by the playing staff there from what I hear. Players have downed tools. Almost feel sorry for their supporters
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 14, 2021 17:32:20 GMT
Not surprising, Wilder was well liked and respected by the playing staff there from what I hear. Players have downed tools. Almost feel sorry for their supporters Supporters there seem to be split judging by their forum!....sound familiar? Sheffield United caretaker manager Paul Heckingbottom speaking to BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra: “It was tough, it’s been the culmination of a tough few days for the players and staff, having lost a friend to me and many others and a leader to the boys. “We’ve shared some really good times and you could see today that it has taken its toll. “My responsibility is to do what is right by the players in the next few weeks. Part of that is not allowing any excuses, so as difficult as it is the players know that Chris and the rest of the staff wouldn’t have been happy with that and wouldn’t allow excuses going forward. “We have to work hard now and just look forward to the remainder of the season. “There is still a long way to go. We’ve got just under a quarter of the season left and are in the FA Cup, so still plenty of football to be played.” On his role at the club: “I’m taking over the team until the end of the season, unless things change in that respect, and while the club organise their next move, it’s as simple as that. “Chris brought me to the club, so from a personal point of view I miss him. People say it’s just football. We have to be professional, we know that, but certainly the impact Chris has had on this football club probably does magnify the emotions and the feelings that everyone is going through. “Whoever the next manager is will be watching our performances from now until the end of the season. The players have to be selfish in the respect of it’s their careers, I am just here to try to help that. They have to look at trying to build or rebuild their careers as part of the next phase of Sheffield United. On the future: “It’s tough, all the fans are feeling it. All the fans I have spoken to, a lot of them are heartbroken. But they have to look forward, they have to put their trust in the club, who are now going to take decisions to build and take the club forward. “Everything comes to an end, but it’s really sad when it comes after a long period of success.”
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Post by independent on Mar 14, 2021 23:57:21 GMT
Any Sheffield Utd. fans I know Say that losing Wilder is worse than a relegation.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2021 2:13:11 GMT
Something had to change though didn’t it? He’d spent an awful lot of money really, really badly and the owners wanted to give him some help there and make him Head Coach and he was having none of it. Even discounting their shocking season and whether constantly digging your players out publicly is a diminishing returns job, the two options were to keep trusting him with money when he’d proven he couldn’t be trusted with it, or get rid. The former is essentially what we did with Hughes. Lyn Mousset for 10m. He’s not worth signing on a free. McBurnie I like but he’s someone you sign cheap and hope he can make the step up. 17.5m based basically on one excellent season in the Championship. 😂😂
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 15, 2021 6:16:10 GMT
Obviously a very good tactician and great motivator, but another example of a manager losing their shit when they get a lot of money to spend.
The amount of homework you need to do on players these days is too much for one man to do when he has the job of coaching the side, setting up match tactics and dealing with the press etc. A DOF model is the way forward for all clubs.
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Post by chuckrocky on Mar 15, 2021 7:15:34 GMT
Something had to change though didn’t it? He’d spent an awful lot of money really, really badly and the owners wanted to give him some help there and make him Head Coach and he was having none of it. Even discounting their shocking season and whether constantly digging your players out publicly is a diminishing returns job, the two options were to keep trusting him with money when he’d proven he couldn’t be trusted with it, or get rid. The former is essentially what we did with Hughes. Lyn Mousset for 10m. He’s not worth signing on a free. McBurnie I like but he’s someone you sign cheap and hope he can make the step up. 17.5m based basically on one excellent season in the Championship. 😂😂 £48m spent on Ramsdale and Brewster. Brewster may turn out to be a good player for them next season but 0 goals in 20 games this season has to go down as one of the biggest ever Premier League flops.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2021 8:53:49 GMT
Lyn Mousset for 10m. He’s not worth signing on a free. McBurnie I like but he’s someone you sign cheap and hope he can make the step up. 17.5m based basically on one excellent season in the Championship. 😂😂 £48m spent on Ramsdale and Brewster. Brewster may turn out to be a good player for them next season but 0 goals in 20 games this season has to go down as one of the biggest ever Premier League flops. Yeah the Brewster one is mad. Did ok at Swansea but it wasn’t like it was a watershed moment. And you’ve got to wonder why Liverpool would be willing to sell given how highly he was rated. They must have known it was a once in a lifetime sort of a deal. In him and McBurnie though they’ve genuinely got a strike force that if it plays to its ability could get 40 goals between them next year in the Champo. But that definitely was their aim.
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 15, 2021 10:29:15 GMT
I think they may have bigger trouble ahead, putting Heckingbottom in charge till the end of the season just screams the "new" owner has already lost interest, they were pretty much relegated by October so keep Wilder or get rid they should have had a plan in place to start looking at players for next season, apart from a couple of defenders and some of the midfielders as squad fillers I dont see much demand for their players, if Swansea get promoted they might try and buy back Mcburnie the rest is pretty average and they have a manager who they know wont be manager next season...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2021 11:54:46 GMT
I think they may have bigger trouble ahead, putting Heckingbottom in charge till the end of the season just screams the "new" owner has already lost interest, they were pretty much relegated by October so keep Wilder or get rid they should have had a plan in place to start looking at players for next season, apart from a couple of defenders and some of the midfielders as squad fillers I dont see much demand for their players, if Swansea get promoted they might try and buy back Mcburnie the rest is pretty average and they have a manager who they know wont be manager next season... Mcburnie is one they need to keep really for the Champo. I know it was only one season but he scored 22 in it. They'd be mad to get rid.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 15, 2021 12:10:36 GMT
For all the praise of Wilder last season with his much lauded "overlapping centre backs" system, it's been a pretty feeble reaction to losing Jack O'Connell to injury which has much brought the whole way of playing crashing down around him. They have lacked so much intensity and the signings have been horrendous. His stock is still relatively high but let's be clear he's done a pretty lame job this season.......
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 15, 2021 12:13:50 GMT
Can't we use Brewster as a yardstick to what we ask for Campbell, should we sell him somewhere further down the line?. What was it £23 million on the back of one decent loan at Swansea?.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2021 13:08:26 GMT
For all the praise of Wilder last season with his much lauded "overlapping centre backs" system, it's been a pretty feeble reaction to losing Jack O'Connell to injury which has much brought the whole way of playing crashing down around him. They have lacked so much intensity and the signings have been horrendous. His stock is still relatively high but let's be clear he's done a pretty lame job this season....... Seems like a familiar tale, one player injured and it all goes to shit when it shouldn’t 🤔
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Post by werrington on Mar 15, 2021 13:37:26 GMT
I love it how folk say it’s madness to sack him as they’d be fucking apoplectic and demanding his head if we’d been in the same position as Sheffield United
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 15, 2021 13:43:56 GMT
I love it how folk say it’s madness to sack him as they’d be fucking apoplectic and demanding his head if we’d been in the same position as Sheffield United It is complete madness mate because he’s best suited to get them straight back in my opinion
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 15, 2021 14:09:33 GMT
I love it how folk say it’s madness to sack him as they’d be fucking apoplectic and demanding his head if we’d been in the same position as Sheffield United It is complete madness mate because he’s best suited to get them straight back in my opinion What do you do about the impasse over the transfers though?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 15, 2021 14:17:40 GMT
It is complete madness mate because he’s best suited to get them straight back in my opinion What do you do about the impasse over the transfers though? Go back to what served them well in the 4 years previous
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 15, 2021 14:27:06 GMT
What do you do about the impasse over the transfers though? Go back to what served them well in the 4 years previous It's two seasons now though where he's spent pretty big and not got much return from it, while he's getting diminishing returns from the players who got him there. You need some level of investment to compete.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 15, 2021 14:28:54 GMT
I think they will keep the squad together on the basis that their won't be much interest for their players, Berge will be gone to a Premier League team, as will Lundstrum who's rejected a contract anyway. Other than that there's only really O'Connell who is coming back from a long lay off soon. It's whether those players can shake off the losing mentality and get back on track, we know better than anyone how it can become a mindset.......
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 15, 2021 14:35:54 GMT
Go back to what served them well in the 4 years previous It's two seasons now though where he's spent pretty big and not got much return from it, while he's getting diminishing returns from the players who got him there. You need some level of investment to compete. I think the Brewster deal was crazy as well as Bogle and Lowe from Derby for a combined £11 million although all 3 have years ahead of them. They remind me so much of us as a club as in size and fan base and passionate fans.Sadly I fear they’ll now spend a few seasons in the championship unless they get the appointment spot on and that’s not Jason Tindall
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 15, 2021 14:39:41 GMT
It's two seasons now though where he's spent pretty big and not got much return from it, while he's getting diminishing returns from the players who got him there. You need some level of investment to compete. I think the Brewster deal was crazy as well as Bogle and Lowe from Derby for a combined £11 million although all 3 have years ahead of them. They remind me so much of us as a club as in size and fan base and passionate fans.Sadly I fear they’ll now spend a few seasons in the championship unless they get the appointment spot on and that’s not Jason Tindall The Tindall appointment is a really weird one. Ramsdale and McBurnie not really doing it either. It's a shame for them Wilder isn't prepared to play ball as he'd really weakened his own negotiating position and wasn't really going to get away with chucking his toys. Wonder if he'll make a manager elsewhere or if it was one of those 'perfect marriage' situations that he might struggle to recreate elsewhere?
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