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Post by thevoid on Dec 13, 2020 18:54:46 GMT
Not only is Hasenhuttl a top manager, but he's also a winning hand at Scrabble.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 13, 2020 20:18:41 GMT
Spending £25m on a young striker who’s only experience of senior football was half a season in the Championship was just as mad. £20M on McBurnie as well. Has Scholsey been moonlighting in Sheffield?! Not as mad as spunking 9mill on Vokes😬
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Post by dave1 on Dec 13, 2020 20:24:34 GMT
They won't win a game all season. Wilder will lose the plot. Very amusing. Dont think that 'wilder losing the plot' is very funny! I was lucky enough to be a teams call with wilder and a number of other high profile sportspeople re resiliance and mental toughness and all I can say is that wilder is a proper top bloke.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 13, 2020 20:25:29 GMT
£20M on McBurnie as well. Has Scholsey been moonlighting in Sheffield?! Not as mad as spunking 9mill on Vokes😬 The sad thing is he ain’t the worst of our acquisitions. It’s possible he wouldn’t even make the top 5.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 13, 2020 20:29:33 GMT
They won't win a game all season. Wilder will lose the plot. Very amusing. Dont think that 'wilder losing the plot' is very funny! I was lucky enough to be a teams call with wilder and a number of other high profile sportspeople re resiliance and mental toughness and all I can say is that wilder is a proper top bloke. Cool story.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 13, 2020 20:35:43 GMT
Not as mad as spunking 9mill on Vokes😬 The sad thing is he ain’t the worst of our acquisitions. It’s possible he wouldn’t even make the top 5. I think with the pain he's causing us now as not being in any way a viable option as a starting front man, amidst the worst injury crisis in living memory, at that price, rockets him up the charts a bit. By no means the worst agreed but in the top 5 for me.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 13, 2020 20:38:22 GMT
The sad thing is he ain’t the worst of our acquisitions. It’s possible he wouldn’t even make the top 5. I think with the pain he's causing us now as not being in any way a viable option as a starting front man, amidst the worst injury crisis in living memory, at that price, rockets him up the charts a bit, by no means the worst agreed but in the top 5 for me. I started thinking about who our 5 worst signings have been, but my brain started to over heat so I gave up. Vokes could certainly be there. But he’s got some stiff competition. Depressing isn’t it!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 13, 2020 20:39:22 GMT
I think with the pain he's causing us now as not being in any way a viable option as a starting front man, amidst the worst injury crisis in living memory, at that price, rockets him up the charts a bit, by no means the worst agreed but in the top 5 for me. I started thinking about who our 5 worst signings have been, but my brain started to over heat so I gave up. Votes could certainly be there. But he’s got some stiff competition. Depressing isn’t it! Vokes certainly fits the “stiff” description😀
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 13, 2020 20:51:57 GMT
Dont think that 'wilder losing the plot' is very funny! I was lucky enough to be a teams call with wilder and a number of other high profile sportspeople re resiliance and mental toughness and all I can say is that wilder is a proper top bloke. Cool story. What’s the beef with Wilder? He seems pretty sound from everything I’ve seen and heard about him?
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Post by bgreen13 on Dec 13, 2020 21:45:23 GMT
They are 1 trick ponys and have been found out. Team spirit can only get you so far before you get found out.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 13, 2020 21:47:25 GMT
What’s the beef with Wilder? He seems pretty sound from everything I’ve seen and heard about him? I've no beef at all, just think he might go all Billy Davies at any moment!!! He's done a good job at Sheffield but he has brought shockingly and will pay the price with relegation. On course for 3.1 points this season!!!!!!!!!
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Post by dave1 on Dec 13, 2020 22:19:58 GMT
Dont think that 'wilder losing the plot' is very funny! I was lucky enough to be a teams call with wilder and a number of other high profile sportspeople re resiliance and mental toughness and all I can say is that wilder is a proper top bloke. Cool story. Not really a 'cool story' You better get to bed, school in the morning!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2020 23:23:07 GMT
Not really a 'cool story' You better get to bed, school in the morning!!! Youre right it wasn't. It was a pretty shit story.
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Post by leegthestokie90 on Dec 14, 2020 3:25:35 GMT
Dont mind Sheff and wilder I think once they get that first win they will go on a run and stay up and send arse down
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Post by Dr Hesham on Dec 14, 2020 3:31:03 GMT
With this level, they should start preparing for their Championship campaign.
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Post by wakeypotter on Dec 14, 2020 7:38:57 GMT
Dont mind Sheff and wilder I think once they get that first win they will go on a run and stay up and send arse down You obviously don’t know any of there fans They think even now they won’t go down. Deluded springs to mind
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Post by tachyon on Dec 14, 2020 9:14:28 GMT
They had a run of mid season games last year when they were legitimately an above average PL team. But it was bookended by periods when they were performing at a relegation level. Attachment DeletedBlue good, orange bad. Henderson had a hot streak over the season, he allowed around six fewer goals than you'd expect from the quality of chances SU were conceding. Ramsdale's been PL average this season (not poor), which is how he performed for Bournemouth in 2019/20. They won 9 games by a single goal margin last year, they've lost 8 in the same circumstances this, while continuing with their relegation level of performance. They're poor, defensively, getting worse & variance has bitten them.
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Post by walrus on Dec 14, 2020 9:23:12 GMT
I see a lot of people saying “They’ve lost so many games by a single goal” as if they’ve been really unlucky. The thing is they so infrequently look like scoring that it’s easy for teams who go a goal up on them to just keep it tight and close out the match. They had three shots yesterday, all off target.
Wilder is lucky to still be in a job. Any other club in the Prem currently would have sacked their manager if they’d had that start.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 14, 2020 9:28:50 GMT
They had a run of mid season games last year when they were legitimately an above average PL team. But it was bookended by periods when they were performing at a relegation level. View AttachmentBlue good, orange bad. Henderson had a hot streak over the season, he allowed around six fewer goals than you'd expect from the quality of chances SU were conceding. Ramsdale's been PL average this season (not poor), which is how he performed for Bournemouth in 2019/20. They won 9 games by a single goal margin last year, they've lost 8 in the same circumstances this, while continuing with their relegation level of performance. They're poor, defensively, getting worse & variance has bitten them. Tachyon, as you're well up on this, out of interest who is performing the best in the premier league now based on this and who would you expect to go on to w in the league?
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Post by tachyon on Dec 14, 2020 9:44:34 GMT
Tachyon, as you're well up on this, out of interest who is performing the best in the premier league now based on this and who would you expect to go on to w in the league?[/quote] Using xG and strength of schedule played, here's the performance pecking order for games played so far in the PL. Attachment DeletedAs regards "who will win the league", we use more than just this season & we currently have Liverpool 1st, MC 2nd come May.
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Post by tachyon on Dec 14, 2020 10:01:09 GMT
The thing is they so infrequently look like scoring that it’s easy for teams who go a goal up on them to just keep it tight and close out the match. They had three shots yesterday, all off target. They've created over 13 xG, but scored just 5, They are creating chances and they've been competitive in around half their matches. Attachment DeletedThe problem is in defense, where they've allowed 1.8 xG per game and allowed that rate of actual goals. They've also had the most difficult schedule. They'll probably still go down, but they should rein things back enough to be a competitive relegation candidate, rather than a Derby County.
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Post by walrus on Dec 14, 2020 10:25:47 GMT
The thing is they so infrequently look like scoring that it’s easy for teams who go a goal up on them to just keep it tight and close out the match. They had three shots yesterday, all off target. They've created over 13 xG, but scored just 5, They are creating chances and they've been competitive in around half their matches. View AttachmentThe problem is in defense, where they've allowed 1.8 xG per game and allowed that rate of actual goals. They've also had the most difficult schedule. They'll probably still go down, but they should rein things back enough to be a competitive relegation candidate, rather than a Derby County. Fair enough. Although I would argue that “creating chances” and “looking like scoring” are different things. They’re so short on confidence in front of goal. Prime example was Sander Berge’s chance in the first half yesterday. Really very presentable chance that he never looked like taking.
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Post by mickstupp on Dec 14, 2020 10:34:01 GMT
They've created over 13 xG, but scored just 5, They are creating chances and they've been competitive in around half their matches. View AttachmentThe problem is in defense, where they've allowed 1.8 xG per game and allowed that rate of actual goals. They've also had the most difficult schedule. They'll probably still go down, but they should rein things back enough to be a competitive relegation candidate, rather than a Derby County. Fair enough. Although I would argue that “creating chances” and “looking like scoring” are different things. They’re so short on confidence in front of goal. Prime example was Sander Berge’s chance in the first half yesterday. Really very presentable chance that he never looked like taking. All boils down to confidence doesn’t it? Much I like these statistics, one thing we will ever be able to gauge is a players mental strength. Look at Brentford. Incredibly good, forward thinking approach to recruitment, making decisions based largely on stats analysis. They’ve signed some excellent players on the back of it and made huge profits from selling them on. The downside is, when the pressure was really on at the end of last season, mentally they totally collapsed.
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Post by samwidge on Dec 14, 2020 10:44:42 GMT
I think with the pain he's causing us now as not being in any way a viable option as a starting front man, amidst the worst injury crisis in living memory, at that price, rockets him up the charts a bit, by no means the worst agreed but in the top 5 for me. I started thinking about who our 5 worst signings have been, but my brain started to over heat so I gave up. Vokes could certainly be there. But he’s got some stiff competition. Depressing isn’t it! Even Kyle Lightbourne would be slightly less worse than Vokes .
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Post by samwidge on Dec 14, 2020 10:49:29 GMT
The thing is they so infrequently look like scoring that it’s easy for teams who go a goal up on them to just keep it tight and close out the match. They had three shots yesterday, all off target. They've created over 13 xG, but scored just 5, They are creating chances and they've been competitive in around half their matches. View AttachmentThe problem is in defense, where they've allowed 1.8 xG per game and allowed that rate of actual goals. They've also had the most difficult schedule. They'll probably still go down, but they should rein things back enough to be a competitive relegation candidate, rather than a Derby County. Oh I do hope so, would like Derby to keep hold of there accolade.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2020 1:59:09 GMT
Think I heard the other day is the worst start in history beating Newport County from the 70s was it in the old 3rd division ? I agree re the spending above, some mad money spent on average players.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 19, 2020 7:49:40 GMT
I think it makes our achievement in doing 10 season against the odds all the more remarkable. It's still not been bettered other than by the top 7 and it shows how difficult it is to get to the "next level" Sheff Utd have spent big money let's make no bones about that, Wilder did a great job last season but the backbone of the team was the ones he brought along with him, their recruitment has been absolutely dire...... And I still maintain that we were unlucky to go down. We never had that continued slide towards relegation. We just went bump that season. Had we survived it would have been a gif enough scare to sort out shit out in the summer
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Post by Glory Hunter on Dec 19, 2020 9:26:32 GMT
I started thinking about who our 5 worst signings have been, but my brain started to over heat so I gave up. Vokes could certainly be there. But he’s got some stiff competition. Depressing isn’t it! Even Kyle Lightbourne would be slightly less worse than Vokes . Dave Bamber and Keith Scott would give Vokes a run for his money.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 19, 2020 10:25:02 GMT
Even Kyle Lightbourne would be slightly less worse than Vokes . Dave Bamber and Keith Scott would give Vokes a run for his money. They didn't cost 9m though
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Post by Glory Hunter on Dec 19, 2020 10:40:57 GMT
Dave Bamber and Keith Scott would give Vokes a run for his money. They didn't cost 9m though It’s a fair point and we did also swap Scott for Mike Sheron in an amazing piece of business by Lou Macari.
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